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Ketamine Discussion- Quality and regional info

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Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
Nah mate i've got crohn's disease and a couple of ket seshs have put me into flare.
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Really? Why is this? I understand that Ketmine is supposed to have very little effect on GI function, so curious as to why you flare after having it. In fact, you would have thought K's analgesic / anaesthetic properties would remove any discomfort you have down there.
 
7zark7 said:
Really? Why is this? I understand that Ketmine is supposed to have very little effect on GI function, so curious as to why you flare after having it. In fact, you would have thought K's analgesic / anaesthetic properties would remove any discomfort you have down there.
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I think my immune system sees the ket that goes down from the drip as a foreign body and tries to attack it. Like for instance I can also get flares from the insides of tomatoes, whereas for most people it would slide through just fine! The analgesic/anaesthetic effect does remove all discomfort whilst I am on it, it is a day or two later that i'll have stomach cramps, and be running to the toilet every hour or so.
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
I think my immune system sees the ket that goes down from the drip as a foreign body and tries to attack it. Like for instance I can also get flares from the insides of tomatoes, whereas for most people it would slide through just fine! The analgesic/anaesthetic effect does remove all discomfort whilst I am on it, it is a day or two later that i'll have stomach cramps, and be running to the toilet every hour or so.
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Ah - it's material from the drip, rather than the actually drug itself. Another reason to keep drinking fluids on K so to dilute anything that falls into your stomach. ;)

Aren't you on any immunosuppressants?

… and I thought tomatoes give people flares because of their skins! :p
 
7zark7 said:
Ah - it's material from the drip, rather than the actually drug itself. Another reason to keep drinking fluids on K so to dilute anything that falls into your stomach. ;)

Aren't you on any immunosuppressants?

… and I thought tomatoes give people flares because of their skins! :p
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I find it is only the seeds. The seeds of anything seem to do it. I drink pints of water on my sessions to wash the drip away as it is! I'm on infliximab and I haven't tried it whilst using it on this stuff. This medicine works so well I don't want to mess things up, but I'm sure ill do some soon. I've tried it on azathioprine and prednisone, there wasn't really any interactions between those and K. They also didn't really stop the flare up either! You seem to know a lot about crohn's, do you know someone with it?
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
I find it is only the seeds. The seeds of anything seem to do it. I drink pints of water on my sessions to wash the drip away as it is! I'm on infliximab and I haven't tried it whilst using it on this stuff. This medicine works so well I don't want to mess things up, but I'm sure ill do some soon. I've tried it on azathioprine and prednisone, there wasn't really any interactions between those and K. They also didn't really stop the flare up either! You seem to know a lot about crohn's, do you know someone with it?
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I might know someone with Crohn's - maybe even two people ;) Understand about not wanting to mess-up your current treatment if it's working. Not heard about infliximab, although I am familiar with Rituximab. Aza and pred are nasty drugs by themselves - don't think a bit of K will make much difference!
 
rockstar 69 said:
I don't really feel like it was ever too cheap. A gramme of K is never worth more than £20, because out of that I'm only really going to hole 4 times, that's if I've not had any for a while.
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I'm amazed that people can say on the one hand that ketamine gives them the most profound and pleasurable experiences, but on the other they would never pay more than £20 a gram for it. If there is a worldwide shortage, and the price rises steeply, then you just take care to make your experiences special and worthwhile. I would happily pay way more than the current going rate because it is such a unique drug and takes you to places like no other.

A lot of people could do with learning some moderation. Then you might keep the magic, reduce your tolerance and not fuck up your bladder. Which all seem pretty obviously good things, eh?
 
specialspack said:
I'm amazed that people can say on the one hand that ketamine gives them the most profound and pleasurable experiences, but on the other they would never pay more than £20 a gram for it. If there is a worldwide shortage, and the price rises steeply, then you just take care to make your experiences special and worthwhile. I would happily pay way more than the current going rate because it is such a unique drug and takes you to places like no other.

A lot of people could do with learning some moderation. Then you might keep the magic, reduce your tolerance and not fuck up your bladder. Which all seem pretty obviously good things, eh?
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The problem is, that ketamine is used a lot as an Escape drug.

It serves its purpose very very well too. Even when your not in a hole and do lower doses, it makes the world a friendlier place and you generally dont care as much.
Thats why a lot of people binge on it i think too. Its kind of what alcoholics do isnt it, they just have a life that is most of the time, Intoxicated by alcohol so they dont have to experience too much of the real world.

If peoples lives are normal, and they are happy enough. Then yes it can be used that way, i did for a while.
Granted i dont plough through grams of it, but i do use it more often than id like to be, but when the shit hits the fan i just use it to escape. That sinking horrible depressive feeling is awful, and i cant make it go away any other way. It seems to come in waves too, been like that for years (long before any drug use)
 
darksidedsam said:
The problem is, that ketamine is used a lot as an Escape drug.

It serves its purpose very very well too. Even when your not in a hole and do lower doses, it makes the world a friendlier place and you generally dont care as much.
Thats why a lot of people binge on it i think too. Its kind of what alcoholics do isnt it, they just have a life that is most of the time, Intoxicated by alcohol so they dont have to experience too much of the real world.

If peoples lives are normal, and they are happy enough. Then yes it can be used that way, i did for a while.
Granted i dont plough through grams of it, but i do use it more often than id like to be, but when the shit hits the fan i just use it to escape. That sinking horrible depressive feeling is awful, and i cant make it go away any other way. It seems to come in waves too, been like that for years (long before any drug use)
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Ket really doesn't help me if i'm in a dark place. I just have the darkest trip ever, completely focused around the issues I have in my mind. Alcohol just makes me more depressed. Weed and valium combined are probably my chosen escape drugs!
 
I would say Ketamine is definitely one of the more 'escapist' drugs out there, it's a dissocative one of the best drugs for taking you away from reality and elsewhere, but in an enjoyable and completely crazy way. A lot of people get way into it and just become desensitised, I'd say it would happen a lot quicker with dissocatives than the likes of psychedelics (which are also popular for it). It's also very more-ish too, luckily I don't find it was delusional as MXE can be making it I'd say a lot safer if you're worried about getting into habitual use.
 
specialspack said:
I'm amazed that people can say on the one hand that ketamine gives them the most profound and pleasurable experiences, but on the other they would never pay more than £20 a gram for it. If there is a worldwide shortage, and the price rises steeply, then you just take care to make your experiences special and worthwhile. I would happily pay way more than the current going rate because it is such a unique drug and takes you to places like no other.

A lot of people could do with learning some moderation. Then you might keep the magic, reduce your tolerance and not fuck up your bladder. Which all seem pretty obviously good things, eh?
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Because a gramme of K is like 10 lines max, 4 holes max ie 250mg doses. If I was out I might buy 1g for £30 if I was already on something. But when I'm trying to stock up on a few g's there's no way I'm paying some of the prices it's being sold for these days unless it was super strong. The stuff I get is strong but it's not the seriously trippy isomer (whichever one that is, S I believe).

Obviously if I had loads of money I would happily pay whatever, but I don't by any means and I'm not really that keen on dealing to fund my habbit either due to the problems that's already caused me in the past. It's more just the way the price has shot up in such a short space of time that annoys me.

I agree with the last bit of what you said, but I don't use regularly just tend to buy 5-7gs and binge over a few nights.
 
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If you're in Leeds mate you could cut out the middle man and just rack up your own lines of salt direct from Sainsburys. It is actually that shit here!
 
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Posting about how there's loads of drugs at particular club nights is pretty stupid if you want that club night to continue.

Sorry mate,dunno what i was thinking :\
 
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My guy said Bristol is still as dry as a bone, but then i'm guessing the hippies hoard it all for themselves?
 
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I don't buy drugs on the web any way mate... I was just saying the option is there for people who are desperate. I highly doubt the police will dedicate the resources necessary to prosecute someone who gets caught having a tiny amount sent to their home. People on here have been talking about importing 'harder' drugs on here left right and center. We have a permenant 4-FA thread, and MDPV thread, where do you think people are getting this because it sure as hell isn't the streets!
 
I know that myself, but don't ever rule out being busted purely because it's UK - UK mail. Alot of people aren't careful enough about the way they send things, or pay for things and leave a mess of evidence behind them in their rush for drugs. The likes of 4-FA and MDPV are being sent from overseas but their packaging is usually alot more crafty and their payment options usually less suspect.

There was a story in the Daily Record or something a while ago purely about online sourcing in the UK and how publically it's being done on some websites. I guess it comes down to who your dealing with and keeping it under wraps.
 
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