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Jobseeker's Allowance Megathread ver. We're all overqualified!

I was on a zero hour contract anyway so I can say I was just laid off, they didn't have any more work for me. Cause when your on a zero hour contract you don't get officaly 'fired' as such, you just get laid off.
 
Is a zero hours thing the same as being a temp? Or something quite different?

Im wondering how to 'spin' the whole thing myself about my own sacking when i get back to applying for jobs again. Being laid off sounds a hell of a lot better than being fired, iirc the phrase the agency used was that "they dont want you anymore" so i guess that maybe i could get away with going with the laid off line. This should hopefully make the whole process of signing on for benefits or getting another job (whichever happens sooner) a whole lot easier.
 
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Zero hours basically means they are under no obligation to give you a set amount of work each week, unlike a contract for 20/30/37.5 hours... so basically, you don't have the same job security. I think.

I was moved from a 30 hour a week contract to a zero hours contract when I started Uni, so I could go back & work for the company in the holidays & was still an employee as such. Eventually they just terminated the contract after I never went back to work for them.
 
looking for jobs sucks big time. especially if it is a pretty specialized thing that i work. basically i cant work in the city i live in, not for about 50km around... if i choose to stay then i am forced to be more or less a volunteer with minimal benefits (think living at home with parents and no income above the bare necessities). if i go to another part of the country, i ll be away from my family and gf, and reduced chances of ever coming back, not to mention also shitty pay. if i go to a different country i start from square one. and added to that, the only jobs abroad are in rural france or germany or norway. again, away from family and girl, but at least with a decent pay...
feeling between a rock and a hard place really. mind at least im lucky to have my folks supporting me through all this, though it feels a bit humiliating to be dependent at my age.

worst part? there s a whole generation just like me.
 
They're trying to make me do some shitty course that lasted 6 weeks and would have taken time away from actually sending out CV's etc, so I turned it down. I then turned down their work experience offers as I'm applying for voluntary work myself, hopefully in a charity shop, which is way better than what they had an offer.

But now I apparently have to sign in to the job centre every day and do some applications while there. I could just do them from home, why do I have to jump through all these hoops. My friends on JSA just had to prove what they've done when they sign on. Maybe it's because it's a new claim, idk.
 
i think theres a lot of prejudice that goes on at these places, if someone sees you rightly or wrongly as 'not trying' they can be absolute cunts. One week i applied for about 50 jobs, and that completely changed their attitude towards me. The whole filling in forms on what job you applied for and when and also recording it on the useless computer system they use all takes time away from actually applyinng fro jobs. I spose tbf though, the unemployment cant in all reasonablness say that they havent got time for all this shit. It is all degrading and demoraling though, i guess thats one way of motivating people to get out of those places ASAP.

Doing applications whilst there? All 2 current jobs they have on their database? Must take 20 minutes, meaning you have to spend the rest of the time playing fucking Solitaire or something. :!
 
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They're trying to make me do some shitty course that lasted 6 weeks and would have taken time away from actually sending out CV's etc, so I turned it down. I then turned down their work experience offers as I'm applying for voluntary work myself, hopefully in a charity shop, which is way better than what they had an offer.

But now I apparently have to sign in to the job centre every day and do some applications while there. I could just do them from home, why do I have to jump through all these hoops. My friends on JSA just had to prove what they've done when they sign on. Maybe it's because it's a new claim, idk.
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Last time I was on JSA, it was a case of scribbling a few fake jobs alongside whatever jobs you'd actually applied for (if any). Those days are long gone though.

Seriously, you do not want to be turning down their work experience offers, however shitty they may be, and whatever plans of your own you may have. They'll see it as you being difficult or non-compliant, and treat you accordingly.

Even back in 'my day', the advisor would throw a couple of job interviews - usually inappropriate ones - at you, with the understanding that you had to attend them, and then the box was ticked. Even the real piss-takers understood that they'd have to comply, or else things would be made more difficult for them. I'd imagine that declining their offers of work placements is regarded in a similar fashion, but with far worse consequences.

That said, it sucks, and I feel for you. Sometimes it's all about playing their game, whether you're genuinely looking for hundreds of jobs or not.
 
yeah when I sign on properly tomorrow I'll tell them I've reconsidered and take their fucking work experience. Still a reference I guess.
 
Good decision, belive me they would have made things very difficult fro you otherwise, maybe even sactioning you from all benefits for sevarl months. Its becoming more like a Fascist state day by day at that place. Next thing they'll be lining up the unemployed to have them shot. Thats a good way of getting the unemployment figures down.
 
im claiming started work tho, the contract is minimum 6 hour crimbo temp iv been doing like 12 hours a week what should i do? tell them? fiddle or what will they find out?
 
Unlucky hex, yeah i know man i remember when i was at the work programme, people would go on cv library and one click apply and fuck off within 15 minutes of there job search sesh it was just farcical and pointless. its all just a massive game and losers are usually people with tough lives or complete idiots. You just have to play it smart dude you are unfortunately their bitch for a while.

I have no empathy for job center staff, fucking rats the lot of them. Fat miserable awful human beings
 
so thats me back on the rock and roll. Fully fledged doley scum, im even poor enough to be able to claim council tax reductions this time round. Even so once my water and gas and electric direct debits have been paid thats all my benefits gone, infact it puts me straight into the red. How can they call that a safety net when it doesnt even cover the basic essential monthly bills:? That's not even counting food, transport and other costs.:\

Infact im gonna phone Britsih Gas now, those bastards lied to me last time they called. Telling me that if i agreed to fix my prices that my bills would go down, they immediately went up by £30!! :!

Why is taking successive governments fucking years to make no progress atall about making utilty bills comprehenisible; they deliberately make them as confusing as fuck, so that no one has a clue what they are paying for, and find it impossible to compare suppliers, as they all use a number of different tarrifs, leaving you completely confused about whcih tarif you're paying and when. :\
 
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Ive just today been made redundant, so back to the dole i go. Back to codeine i go right now i really couildnt care. shit mood

They didn't think i was up to the job basically
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
sorry to hear that, it really is a downer to loose a job. It'll probably be realtively easier for you to find another, given that you aren't long term unemployed, have recent work history and experience etc.
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Yeh im just looking on the good sides, it improved my confidence alot , i have developed good phone manner and i have learnt alot. they think i would be better suited in a bigger company or just fixing computers in a back office sort of environment, i do agree with them. The job requires doing alot of IT support for businesses something i never did much of because i didnt have a car. its a demanding job for the money, the business is tiny. It was me and another guy, then the boss and his wife and there son. So just 3 technicians in total, 1 of which does a ridiculous amount of workload for one person and dislikes the job, infact he had so many sick days this year he got sacked, they realized it wouldn't work without him and took him back after 2 days.

The one guy who wasn't part of their family was sound as fuck, i could be myself around him. Which is usually not possible in most jobs

edit- thanks fools
 
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Its the social aspect as well as the money that you tend to miss aboout not having a job. Meanwhile theyve introduced this 35 hour rule, meaning you have to spend 35 hours a week looking for work, fucking hell its a chore already. It certainly is an incentive to get off jsa asap.
 
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