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Jimmy Savile (aka: paedo speculation megathread)

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200 victims? Are they all genuine or have a few just smelled compo? Jimmys dick must've been scarcely dry for the last 6 decades.
 
charlie clean said:
Don't think a final decision has been made, BW. Just how 'independent' any enquiry will be is open to question.
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Indeed.

There's an official criminal investigation announced today.

I just heard a radio interview with Savile and he blatantly told the interviewer 'I'm crooked, but the time you'll realise I'll be down the road'. The interviewer laughed and said 'oh I can't believe you're crooked' and he said 'well, there you go, when I'm gone they'll say 'oh we thought he was straight''.

Crazy.
 
It's unlikely to be a deliberate cover-up. Much more probable that everyone just decided independently that it was better to keep their trap shut and pretend there was an innocent explanation. Easier than admitting there is a rapist on the loose.
 
this is what the dalai lama says about sexual predators in his organisation:

His Holiness said. “The fact that the teacher may have done many other good things should not keep us silent.” Again, in 2001, when answering a similar question, he advised potential converts to check a guru’s qualifications carefully; ‘The best thing is,‘ the Dalai Lama said, ‘whenever exploitation, sexual abuse or money abuse happen, make them public.’
 
What's not yet clear is Savile's precise preferences. With how many of the 200 reported victims did it go further than groping or other kinds of indecent assault? The prurient public have a right to know the full, sordid details.
 
I haven't clicked the link but do know Beadle had a considerable interest in serial-killers. He called out of the blue to introduce himself to a criminalogist mate of mine who was into profiling that strange breed and later became a frequent visitor, spending hours poring over his files and discussing famous cases. Nothing wrong with that, of course, and he came across to my mate and his wife as intelligent, unaffected and pleasant company.

The criminalogist, btw, was trying to romance an attractive and very rich woman in a west country town at the time. Namedropping Beadle didn't move her but, when she complained about the apparent inability of the local constabulary to apprehend a serial rapist operating in the area, he saw his big chance to win her over. Rather worse the wear from drugs and as yet unrequited passion, he rang the police 'hotline' to offer his services. The woman was very impressed when the cops thanked him profusely and requested he come down to help at once and he figured he'd be in like Flynn on his return, especially if he'd 'cracked the case'. At the police station, tho', he was ushered into an interrogation room and grilled by a series of burly policemen. Far from craving his expertise, the cops had decided from his telephone manner he was a likely suspect. He finally had to call the woman to provide an alibi and his hopes of scoring with her were over. Furthermore, the police rang his wife to confirm his 'story', and she thus learned of her west country rival. She promptly kicked him out the house and sued for divorce. Fella had a down on 'yokel cops' for the rest of his life.Nothing to do with celebrity sex offenders but a salutary tale nonetheless.
 

Newsnight journalists were worried the programme's editor, Peter Rippon, was feeling under pressure from his bosses to axe an investigation into allegations of sexual abuse by the one-time BBC star Jimmy Savile.

As barely hidden internal tensions at the BBC burst into the open, a Newsnight reporter, Liz MacKean, told a BBC Panorama programme due to be broadcast on Monday that she believed Rippon would not support the nearly prepared film. Writing in an email to a friend at the time, on 30 November of last year, MacKean said what she thought was really going on: "PR [Peter Rippon] says if the bosses aren't happy … [he] can't go to the wall on this one."

The programme, which will air at 10.35pm, details how much information the Newsnight team had on Savile – in which one woman, Karin Ward, had been filmed saying she had been abused by the Jim'll Fix It presenter in the 1970s.

A script had been prepared by Newsnight last November, in which three unnamed former pupils at Duncroft Approved School in Staines said they also had been abused by Savile. There was also a report of sexual abuse of a teenager at Stoke Mandeville hospital.

Had the Newsnight film run, the BBC2 programme would have been the first to reveal that Savile was linked to sexual abuse. Instead, earlier this month, an ITV documentary was first to expose Savile – whose teenage victims, the Met police said earlier this week, may number in excess of 200.

Speaking on the Panorama programme, the veteran BBC foreign correspondent John Simpson says: "This is the worst crisis that I can remember in my nearly 50 years at the BBC. I don't think the BBC has handled it terribly well.

"I mean I think it's better to just come out right at the start and say we're going to open everything up and then we're going to show everybody everything.

"All we have as an organisation is the trust of the people the people that watch us and listen to us and if we don't have that, if we start to lose that, that's very dangerous I think for the BBC." Panorama also reports that Helen Boaden, the BBC's head of news, knew enough about Newsnight's Savile investigation at the beginning of December 2011 to warn George Entwistle, who is now the BBC's director general.

She told Entwistle – who was responsible for the BBC's TV channels – that if the Savile film aired, he would probably have to drop planned Christmas tributes to the BBC star, who had died the previous October. That conversation is said to have lasted no more than a few seconds, with Entwistle apparently asking no further questions.

Entwistle, a former editor of Newsnight himself, has consistently said that he was "aware" of the programme's Savile investigation – but asked no questions about its detail, believing it was not his place to interfere in the work of another department of the BBC.

Boaden, and her deputy, Stephen Mitchell, were consulted by Rippon as the Newsnight investigation developed rapidly during November of 2011. The investigation was run by the producer Meirion Jones and MacKean, both of whom have co-operated with the Panorama's programme on the BBC's inner workings.

Neither the current director general, Entwistle, nor Boaden or Mitchell have given evidence to Panorama, with the BBC saying they must co-operate with an independent inquiry being run by Nick Pollard, a former head of Sky News. But Entwistle is appearing before MPs on the culture select committee on Tuesday morning, hours after Panorama airs, with the programme placing a spotlight on what, if anything, he knew about Savile and the Newsnight film.

Rippon has always maintained that he decided to drop the Savile film for "editorial reasons". Panorama says it has found "no evidence" to contradict that statement, but the Monday programme details an abrupt change of heart by Rippon, using emails sent by him to Jones and MacKean.

On 25 November 2011, the Newsnight editor was so pleased with progress that he emailed: "Excellent, we can then pull together the tx [transmission or broadcast] plan". But on 30 November, Rippon suddenly asked that the journalists demonstrate that the Crown Prosecution Service had chosen not to charge Savile after a Surrey police inquiry in 2007 because of his age, when he would have been 80.

Unable to get such a confirmation from the CPS, Rippon decided to axe the programme, telling the team on the next day, 1 December, that "we don't really have a strong enough story without it. I'll pull editing now" in an email sent to Jones. An intense behind the scenes argument followed, but the film was halted. Jones told Panorama that he believed the Savile abuse story would emerge and that by surpressing it, "the BBC would be accused of a cover-up. In fact I wrote an email to Peter saying 'the story is strong enough' and the danger of not running it is 'substantial damage to BBC reputation'."

There are also allegations from Jones that Rippon was not accurate when he explained why he pulled the Newsnight film in a blog post written on the BBC website. Rippon said that Newsnight had found "no new evidence" that would have helped the police in their inquiries about Savile.

But Newsnight's key interviewee, Ward, had told Newsnight in November 2011 that she'd also seen Gary Glitter having sex with an underage girl in Savile's BBC dressing room. Ward told Newsnight at the time that she had not gone to the police with what she knew, and according to Jones, Rippon was "reminded many times" that was the case. The argument left a bitter taste within Newsnight at the time, but the programme is now being torn apart by the dispute as each side engages in what appears to be hostile briefing. There was further unhappiness when two Sunday newspapers reported that Jones was unwilling to air evidence that could have incriminated his aunt, who worked at Duncroft school when Savile visited. Jones denies the allegation, saying that he would not have begun the investigation if he was not prepared to be honest about his aunt.
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Anyone find the end of documentary invitation, encouraging anyone who has been a victim of abuse to call the BBC Helpline, just a little bit incredulous? Coming from the same organisation that seems to of systemically ignored almost every opportunity and piece of evidence that was circulating within it that could expose Saville (and others) it seems a little disingenuous.

There was no conclusion about the exact decision made to shelve the newsnight program, unless I missed that bit. I know the editor has now resigned and it's been confimed he changed his story about the cancellation stating that it wasn't originally an investigation into the handling of the story by the police and was in fact about Jimmy Saville himself. What a cock. Maybe when even more emails emerge he might 'offer' some more corrections
 
Disturbing documentary last night and seeing some of the clips of Saville on tele around young girls and the comments he made / actions he took makes you wonder why everyone didn't realise he was a raging paedo a long time ago.
 
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