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JamesBrown - Illness, Hospitalization

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kaossalami said:
It's terrible that doctors see pain like this tolerable, when it definitely is not at a tolerable level..

Have you researched anything about Sciatica? Sciatica pain levels rise from small to extremely severe debilitating pain in the back..

I hope everything goes well today at your appointment James. Hope you feel better soon.
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in fact yes i have researched sciatica....and i believe it matches up with my symptoms almost perfectly. so im going to mention that to my doctor today.
also, that one woman from australia, im too tired to find her post, who explained about how she had the same symptoms as me(matched up perfect) 3 years ago, had slightly less pain then me but was still in pain nonetheless, and she kept trying to get an MRI to see what was wrong but for some reason she kept getting refused to use the MRI, probably because she was a junky like i was, and after a month or two(just like me) she was finally given a chance to get an MRI, and it showed bilateral sciatica and she was FINALY given very potent painkillers BUT now she has permanent nerve damage because they refused to help her quickly enough, and now she neeeds a cane to get around. It pisses me off that her back could have been in MUCH better condition and she probably could have been healed back to perfect health if the doctors would have just treated her when she needed it, just like me...i swear if I get permanent nerve damge because these doctors refused to help, so help me god i am going to sue there assess off and they will never practice again, and I actually do have access to an extremely good attorney.
 
You probably could sue for malpractice if anything went wrong. But also Spinal stenosi fits some of the symptoms your having... Stenosi can develop and narrow/weaken your spine from drug abuse, putting a pressure on nerves and spinal cord. Can also result in EXTREME pain...
 
Sciatica isn't a diagnosis, its a symptom of many conditions such as spinal stenosis, disk herniations, etc.
 
Cane2theLeft said:
Sciatica isn't a diagnosis, its a symptom of many conditions such as spinal stenosis, disk herniations, etc.
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yes, i am aware of this. but i still think it could be what i have even though its not a "diagnosis". no matter whats causing it, whether its a slipped disc, etc...bilateral sciatica seems to fit my symptoms, or is a perfect description of my symptoms and it would still benefit me to atleast mention it to any doctor i see.
 
jamesBrown said:
in fact yes i have researched sciatica....and i believe it matches up with my symptoms almost perfectly. so im going to mention that to my doctor today.
also, that one woman from australia, im too tired to find her post, who explained about how she had the same symptoms as me(matched up perfect) 3 years ago, had slightly less pain then me but was still in pain nonetheless, and she kept trying to get an MRI to see what was wrong but for some reason she kept getting refused to use the MRI, probably because she was a junky like i was, and after a month or two(just like me) she was finally given a chance to get an MRI, and it showed bilateral sciatica and she was FINALY given very potent painkillers BUT now she has permanent nerve damage because they refused to help her quickly enough, and now she neeeds a cane to get around. It pisses me off that her back could have been in MUCH better condition and she probably could have been healed back to perfect health if the doctors would have just treated her when she needed it, just like me...i swear if I get permanent nerve damge because these doctors refused to help, so help me god i am going to sue there assess off and they will never practice again, and I actually do have access to an extremely good attorney.
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In this respect, shit happens. I begged for an MRI for several years due to excruciating back pain, and I am not a junkie, they just kept making excuses. If they had done it earlier, they would have caught my disc while it was herniated, not extruded to the point where there is pressure on two of my nerves. And these were decent doctors, its more that insurance companies don't like to pay for MRIs unless the doctor can really justify that it could find something that would change their treatment --- I know mine had to fight for it, and i still don't think they covered it all.

Plus, even an extruded disc with a huge 15mm by 10mm mass effect on L5 and S1, with some degenerative disease and some stenosis found in there, and my pain level is not so bad that I need constant pain relief. Actually, just got #30 5mg hydrocodones yesterday due to pain, intended to last me a long time. If an MRI finds something wrong, they will treat it, it's convincing them to do the MRI in the first place...if mine had been done sooner, i'd be in a better place, but hey, shit happens and I'm using things like a support belt and trying to stay off my feet to keep the pain tolerable.

If anything similar to this is whats wrong with you...it wouldn't be causing the symptoms you're describing unless its been a while since it began. This stuff is sorta cyclical...each time you get hurt, more and more damage is being done, and people do end up incapacitated with pain but many have had the issues go untreated, or treated poorly, for quite an extended period of time before that happens.
 
ocean said:
So, what happened at the doctors JB?
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if you can freakin believe it the doctor refused to treat me if i still went to my other doctors I go to. as in, he would be the only one allowed to treat me for ANYTHING, and he would be the only one allowed to precribe me ANYTHING. There was actually a document I had to sign to agree to that.

ANd there is no way I was going to just toss down the drain all the work I have done with my psychiatrist over the years and all the information he knows about me from personal face to face talking and how he prescribes and watches over the medications he gives me closely because he knows all about me in many more ways than this new doctor would even understand.

Also....when we showed up, his tiny offfice literally had like 40 people in it, and about 50 more outside....and im NOT exaggerating. And they were obviously ALL junkies because they all either looked sick, or they were talking about how they couldnt wait to get there suboxone script(cuz he can prescribe that) and they were also talking about the drugs they use and blah blah blah...and im not racist at all, but they were all very "ghetto" acting, and were ALL hespanic(I live in a very highly hespanic populated area). I have no problem with other races, but im just trying to point out that this placed looked just like a methadone clinic(because where I live, about 90% of the people treated at methadone clinics are hespanic), but with 4 times the paients and half the space. It was rediculous. No legitmate doctor could see that many patients in one day and actually keep track off all of there medications correctly. its just not possible. And I was only there for 15 minutes. God knows how many more people come through there throughout the day. it seemed more like a "money maker" doctors office than an actually compassionate doctor who cares.
I mean come on, how can you see like 400 patients a day, and keep track of ALL of there progress? Also, if I had signed that form saying I could ONLY go to HIM for ANY medical treatment and medications, god knows what he would have done with the medications im allready on and have been on for a long time. He very easily could have simply cut me off from all my meds(which could have serious complications) and then give me whatever the hell he feels like....for all I know, he could have just chosen to put me on codeine or tramadol and take me off all my other meds. I would not allow that. So my father asked for his $500 check back and we left. Both my mother and my father were disgusted by that place. It stunk because to be honest, all the people there were VERY poor, some even looked homeless, and I doubt many of them had very good hygeine. It just wasnt a good environment for healthcare.
I was absolutely suprised to find this out after I was reffered by my own sub doctor. but I guess my sub doctor probably has never been to that guys office before. It was absolutely disgusting. And he was obviously not a good doctor.

I could explain even more about the doctor visit if you like but thats most of it. Its just rediculous how unsanitary that place was. And that alone is enough to not want to be treated there, not to mention all the other issues.
 
^No. No need to go into more detail.
Hope you figure out what's wrong- Glad you seem to be doing at least a little better now.
 
I really think that you need to get your parole officer to find you a primary care doctor who can organise diagnostic procedures, refer you to specialists, etc.

From what I've read on BL and elsewhere, it's not unusual for pain management doctors to get their patients to sign "sole prescriber" paperwork - it can be used to mitigate their liability in the event that people die of overdoses after obtaining excessive amounts of pain medication or recklessly combining medications obtained from multiple prescribers.
 
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It's also possible you could ask your psych for recommendations on a doctor that would work with him. You'd sign release forms, and the doctor would see what's in the medical records for you..
 
Damn sorry to hear that James. Has the pain gotten any better? also what is your plan from here? I suggest you go to a primary care doctor you have never seen dont mention suboxone or opiates and see what happens I wouldnt ask for pain medicine I would just rry to get a diagnosis so you at least know what your dealing with then you can make decisions. Anyway I really hope you feel better.
 
Hi james.

Several pages back I went into my story about bilaterial sciatica so much you said off warning bellls. The pain sheer agony. The leg pain the sitting pain the standing pain the laying pain.. fucking excrutiating. Crying beggig for help beibng 911d etc. I am in pain managemnt even eith my past drug use abuse as after all my dr said even junkies feel pain. Id imlore you to look at this avenue.

Peace and blessings tammie
 
ocean said:
^No. No need to go into more detail.
Hope you figure out what's wrong- Glad you seem to be doing at least a little better now.
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yes, the past couple days i have been feeling a little better and have been able to post alot more than normal(which is usually none), mainly because I have gotten a hold of extra klonopin and xanax and take them to help stop my back spasms and keep me feelin allright(on top of my prescribed daily klonopin dose), I had taken some painkillers recently and they helped slightly but I just dont like the idea of taking medications that im not prescribed and could get me into trouble....and im prescribed benzos so I dont care if I have them in my system. Allthough, of course the horrible pain is still there, but by now, after over a month of this pain, my mind feels like it is slowly growing numb to the pain. And im afraid of this because I think that might be a sign of damage being done to my nerves, or brain cells or who knows what...but when the pain that you KNOW is there, is not being transmitted correctly, it makes you worry about possibly permanent nerve damage. And im not being overdramatic, because this shit actually DOES happen.

As far as my next step......if anyone of you actually read all my and my sisters horribly long posts before, that are posted at the beginning of this thread, you would remember me saying something about after I left the last hospital, my parents had made an appointment with a pain management doctor in the "rich" part of the city, but unfortunately it was 3 and a half week wait(remember, that was the earliest appointment we could get with any pain management specialist).....well, by now that appointment is only like 6 days away, so I might go to see him. But I dont know if I want to. My parents and I are doing a rundown of what options we have and where we should go from here.
Its scary though because Im only 123 pounds now when I originally weighed about 155-160 I think. Whats that, 32-37 pounds lost? Im really bad at using my brain for anythign right now, so sry if the math is wrong.
Allthough, luckily, with all this extra xanax and klonopin im taking, Ive been feeling a little better and getting these urges to eat like crazy sometimes.....obviously because I barely ever eat anythign at all...ever. SO I will try to gourge myself on food, but unfortunately im always only able to eat about an average sized meal, maybe less, and then I feel sick to my stomach, but most the time I can actually keep what I ate down, as in not throw it up like I use to. So I am getting some more calories in and thats wonderful.
Im too tired to think of more to post about this right now. Talking about my condition is extremely draining. I apologize.

Thank you all(except for the haters who treat me like shit).
 
That's actually a good idea that your taking the xanax/klnopin. Just be careful to not overdo it. Benzos are great for reducing back spasms and increasing apetite... Try eating some high carb foods like breads, pasta, beans, potatoe forms like hashbrowns..etc. If you can get some drinks like ensure/slimfast/carnations into your stomach this should add some calories to your day.. more calories/food would probably make you feel better after your stomach expands a bit.
 
kaossalami said:
That's actually a good idea that your taking the xanax/klnopin. Just be careful to not overdo it. Benzos are great for reducing back spasms and increasing apetite... Try eating some high carb foods like breads, pasta, beans, potatoe forms like hashbrowns..etc. If you can get some drinks like ensure/slimfast/carnations into your stomach this should add some calories to your day.. more calories/food would probably make you feel better after your stomach expands a bit.
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thanks for the advice. I actually allready have ensure that I drink a little more than every other day. strawberry smoothie flavored, its allright.
Also, my mom got me a BUNCH of those Cambells Chuncky soup, like chicken noodle, grilled chicken with sausage and veggies..etc... I also drink miralax daily.

Also, I know all about the dangers of klonopin and benzos. Im not taking dangerous amounts of them, I jsut taking like 2-3 mg's at a time. Otherwise I would pas out. And im use to taking 1.5-2mg's daily from my prescription.

Unfortuately any time I take more than two 0.5mg klonopin pills, It ends up knocking me out very quickly cuz it relieves the pain slightly and thats enough for me to pass out immediately cuz I practically never sleep. O course, if I dont wake up within 20-30 minutes and move positions, I will wake up later and not be able to move a muscke because it hurts so much. it feels like every single muscle in my body had been constantly contracting and constricting or whatever, and constantly tense the entire time I was sitting there, so my muscles were incredibly sore and immobile. I usually would take like 30 minutes just to get out of bed. But if I was lucid enough to remember my pill bottle and put it near me before I sat down and rested, then I could just chew up a couple pills, wait like 15 minutes(they work fast cuz my stomache is always empty) and then I can get up quite a bit easier, but dont get me wrong, it still hurts like you wouldnt believe.

sry to rant. thanks for all the help
 
I have been following this since the thread opened and I'm very very disappointed by the medical treatment you received. I think it's dumb that somebody has to suffer because of the ignorance of the Dr. People should get treated better no matter what the symptom or problem or theirhistory but a person should not have to suffer because they are a drug addict. I hope a lot of changes occur with this country's Healthcare System.
 
Strapped420 said:
I have been following this since the thread opened and I'm very very disappointed by the medical treatment you received. I think it's dumb that somebody has to suffer because of the ignorance of the Dr. People should get treated better no matter what the symptom or problem or theirhistory but a person should not have to suffer because they are a drug addict. I hope a lot of changes occur with this country's Healthcare System.
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thats the thing....IM NOT EVEN A DRUG ADDICT!!!......I just use to be one. Ive been clean for quite a while. and the docs/nurses still treat me like a high seeking junky.
 
I don't mean to quibble but in the treatment and medical worlds, addiction is a lifelong/chronic diagnosis. You may not be actively dependent right now, but as the idiom regarding spousal infidelity goes, "Once an addict, always an addict".

For a lot of medications, doctors are instructed to inquire about HISTORY of substance abuse/dependence not just current use.
 
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