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Heroin IV Heroin - New to it and not getting rush......

Tyson23

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Hi Fellow BL's,

I have been a long time viewer first time poster...

My DOC are opioids and I recently tried IV heroin which I normally snort, I have become somewhat proficient in finding a vein, registering, pushing half and re-registering and finishing of etc plus the hygiene side etc etc. I am also injecting into my right arm at the crease between forearm and bicep and I am confident there isn't any arteries that I am injecting into there?

As you may guess I am opiate tolerant as I am on MMT of 60mg a day which I however rarely ever take the full dose thanks to a oxycontin habit which at its worst resulted in me snorting/eating 15-25 80mg oxycontin pills a day. I would like to state that I haven't touched any done for three days and even though builds up I doubt its having an effect.

The reason for posting is to ask is it possible for some (me!!) to not experience a rush from IV HEROIN? I have slowly increased my dosage as I didn't want to fall out and even though I get the taste albeit slightly nothing overwhelming I have experienced the same effects as snorted except of course they are stronger e.g. the nod last longer and is more deep if that make sense...

I just increased my dosage again to try (so far tried 5 times) and this time I got what I would assume was the histamine release as it felt as if the back of my neck and my hands were extremely itchy to the point it felt like they were on fire and pins being stuck into them simultaneously if that makes sense and this has since disappeared after 10-15 seconds and then the heavy nod and being high.

The way I see it the lack of rush could be from either:

1. Dose being too low for my tolerance
2. Methadone blocking but Im still getting high and nodding
3. Bad injection point but doesn't make sense as again other effects are felt.
4. Dope isn't possible of producing rush but its potent when snorting and others are getting a rush from same gear.
5. My body cant convert 6MAM fast enough for rush?

I appreciate the input and opinion of any experience members of this wonderful resource.

T23
 
So methadone can kill the rush but still get me high, make me nod, pin point pupils and histamine???

I am happy if thats the problem cause if I give it another day or three and ill finally get the rush ive heard so mich about but shouldn't done also block the other good attributes???
 
You can "shoot through" done, it requires to much heroin and is never worth it.

Playing with your tolerance like this to inject an unsafe amount of a drug with unknown quality seems like a horrible idea.

I thinknits safe to say that unless you are completely off done, you probably wont feel a rush.
 
Another note, that rush youre looking for isnt even safe for a junky. Its what we do when we dont care, we load up a shot with enough to die and slowly plunge it until were on our faces. This is stupid and not safe.

Get your tolerance in check and IV some hydromorphone. The rush is extremely intense. I dont like suggesting IVing pills, but in your case Id say its safer. Wheel filters/micron filters are an abbsolute mess.

There are a couple websites that are not HR oriented. They might be able to give you answers your looking for.

Be safe.
 
Having shot dope on MMT and off (and at low doses of methadone as well), I agree with the above poster in that you are not likely to ever experience the rush on MMT. Yes you will get the high, nod, etc but I didn't get the rush back until I was off the methadone
 
Same here brother, Once i started MMT, after a couple months, I had to kiss the rush/high away.. I got up to 120mg/'done before I got off, and it wouldnt matter If i waited 5 days after dosing, I couldnt get a rush from shooting any amount of H...Its gota be a combo on tolerance & lingering Methadone in your system..
 
yes, i agree with everyone else. the 'done will KILL your rush. i usually found i could get a rush around 20-30mgs, but it was not as strong as it would be when i am sober. i recommend that you stay on methadone. heroin is a horrible drug, and it has wrecked my life and my others i have known (those that are still alive!).

if you take a look at your life, what is heroin REALLY doing for you??? obviously you are running away from something, or you wouldnt be using heroin, or atleast that is my experience. once i woke up and realized i have nothing to run from, to be ashamed of; and that most of my fears are merely a figment of my imagination, i did not need to use heroin anymore.

i have used heroin three times in the last 4 months( after being sober for multiple months), and the experience was SUCH a let down. really the only thing i liked was the "amazing" rush that wasnt even that great without cocaine involved, and the high was not even really euphoric. i couldnt even enjoy it because i had to face what heroin has done to my life. i am just now starting to live a healthy life, and nothing is going to get in the way of me living a succesful life.

i recommend staying on methadone, and tapering down to try to get to a point where you are no longer strung out on opiates. being physically dependent on opiates FUCKING SUCKS!!!!!!

today, if i get any cravings, i take some kratom and maybe smoke a little weed. and i am fine. and i know you will be fine too... good luck


EDIT: FUCK man, and you just started using needles??? i really really really suggest putting down the needle. starting to inject substances was the WORST decision i have ever made in my life. please dont use needles, i have to face the fact that i might have HIV and/or Hep C because of my poor choices that i made. so far i am clean, but it could show up in a couple months.
 
Another note, that rush youre looking for isnt even safe for a junky. Its what we do when we dont care, we load up a shot with enough to die and slowly plunge it until were on our faces. This is stupid and not safe.

Get your tolerance in check and IV some hydromorphone. The rush is extremely intense. I dont like suggesting IVing pills, but in your case Id say its safer. Wheel filters/micron filters are an abbsolute mess.

There are a couple websites that are not HR oriented. They might be able to give you answers your looking for.

Be safe.

Heroin rush is that strong? I know meth and coke are strong fuckers since they are uppers.
 
Curious question to everyone on this post. Are you guys not addicted to H? I don't know to much about anything and i'm just curious if you are able to do it without being addicted?
 
Curious question to everyone on this post. Are you guys not addicted to H? I don't know to much about anything and i'm just curious if you are able to do it without being addicted?

Everyone who shoots heroin is addicted, whether they admit it or not. And by everyone I mean 99.999% of people. And you're not going to be the one exception, so don't get any funny ideas.
 
i agree about starting injecting being a bad decision-- not just because "once a needle user always a needle user" (which im frankly tired of people saying to me) but because it made addiction more intense for me AND ive been to jail once and i know other people who were searched for needles-- which are not illegal to have in my state-- but they take an old spoon swipe it and test it-- dont leave washes in shit, for a million reasons but for the hate of jail or fear of heart infection or cotton fever to name a few.
BUT.
That being said,
I get it -- as a friend of mine says best, "I don't waste good drugs."
 

Tehehee..
Plus.. "dont get any funny ideas."
theyre right you sound silly-- never heard of the heroin nods for how intense it is?
AND saw those lovely nixon commercials about heroin addiction? theyre not far off. even if they started the awful damn drug war... and were not criminals.

Ugh, and im so tired of tracks.
 
ive been to jail once and i know other people who were searched for needles-- which are not illegal to have in my state-- but they take an old spoon swipe it and test it-- dont leave washes in shit, for a million reasons but for the hate of jail or fear of heart infection or cotton fever to name a few.

Tehehee..
Plus.. "dont get any funny ideas."
theyre right you sound silly-- never heard of the heroin nods for how intense it is?
AND saw those lovely nixon commercials about heroin addiction? theyre not far off. even if they started the awful damn drug war... and were not criminals.

Ugh, and im so tired of tracks.


Um what?? I'm confused...
 
Opiates are SUPER addictive. 99% of people get addicted, there are not exceptions. And after, I think, it is 6 of use weeks you WILL go through physical withdrawal. There are so many feeds on this,
The jail stuff--
One of the reasons I suggest not starting opiates is because I never got searched cause I had drug paraphernalia or was too desperate to not shoot up in the car before using needles. I had spent 8 years heavily using drugs and selling them didnt go to jail till a few monthes after using needles. I know this sounds weird, but they end up everywhere. They end up under the seat of your car and in your pockets/ purse and just everywhere. Cause, you don't want to get sick so don't go somewhere without something if you need it right? And the same with the spoon, lighter, cotton and water you use to do it. I know so many people that have gone to jail for drug charges for these reasons, including myself. Where I live, you can legally possess needles (which is not true everywhere), but they are probable cause for search and a spoon with residue on it will get you a possesion charge--- not parahanalia. (Sorry about all the spelling mistakes-- I am withdrawing now.) Other reasons to not keep dirty spoons on you, other than going to jail, if anyone did start using needles, is clean spoons and cottons can prevent heart infection and cotton fever (look them up).So, in response to not using needles EVER, I agree. Kinda.
 
And, theres nixon campaign ad where its a shot of an arm shooting something up and it talks about the war on drugs and drug addicts as crimnals polluting the streets.
 
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