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IV first timers

someone just shot a nice ringer lol . yea i think most of us junkies know what were doin, thanks for lettin all the newbies know tho. I wish i was high right now ;( lol
 
Damn you must have missed most of your shots if you were never properly registering 8o Although there are some people that claim they can IV just by feeling when they've hit the vein.

Which registering technique were you taught? Pull back a little on the rig before you hit the vein so that the blood draws itself? That's the easiest way IME.
 
eon_blue said:
Which registering technique were you taught? Pull back a little on the rig before you hit the vein so that the blood draws itself? That's the easiest way IME.
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no i was taught to instead of trying to pull back w/ only the thumb, hold the needle defferently (with thub and ring finger) and use the index and middle finger to pull back (usually gets quite a lot of blood shoot into the rig)... i used to do it jus by "feel" i knew a few spots where i knew i had hit a vein, but i over used these spots very quickly...

i agree, for most this isn't fresh news, but if it can help at least a couple of "noobs" like i was... then its worht it...:)
 
phatass said:
no i was taught to instead of trying to pull back w/ only the thumb, hold the needle defferently (with thub and ring finger) and use the index and middle finger to pull back (usually gets quite a lot of blood shoot into the rig)... i used to do it jus by "feel" i knew a few spots where i knew i had hit a vein, but i over used these spots very quickly...

i agree, for most this isn't fresh news, but if it can help at least a couple of "noobs" like i was... then its worht it...:)
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Well its funny you mention it, because even though I've always registered, I still managed to miss quite a few shots. Most of the missed hits happen after I register and go to press on the plunger; the needle will slip out of the vein and even the smallest amount of missed fluid makes for a huge swelling.

Anyway yeah, the other day I started toying around with holding the rig differently so that my finger is in position to press on the plunger AS I'm registering, rather than after. I pretty much hold it the way you describe and it's made a world of difference thus far.

I have found that the size of your rig makes a big difference too. Recently I had to use a 1/2cc barrel (I'm used to the 1cc), and it being so small made it so fucking difficult to remain steady enough to get a hit. Stay away from the 1/2cc rigs unless you've got tiny hands like that dude in the Burger King commercial.
 
^^^héhé... no probs... allways get my rigs micronfilters alchohol swabs... n everything for free at this "center..." they also provide free medical assistance, 'don, sub...... (it was this cute nurse who showed me how to IV... was hard to watch the technique rather than her rack héhé...)
 
I can feel when I've hit a vein but I wouldn't try shooting up with my eyes closed you know, they still are small.

But you definitely know, you can tell when you slip in, it's like when you puncture through the vein or something. Just feels so right.
 
Another point worth noting, is that if you're facing any sort of significant resistance to actually pushing the plunger in, chances are you're not in a vein. If that happens, then you're either:

A) Not in a vein at all, and you'll notice immediate swelling at the injection site.

or

B) You're in an artery, which is really bad news. Sometimes if you've hit an artery, you won't have to register at all as blood will immediately gush into the barrel of the rig. I've even had it push back the plunger 10-20 units from the pressure.

If you're properly inserted into a vein, you should face very, very little resistance when you actually begin to plunge and administer the drug.
 
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i want to mention that in the armpit between your forearm and upperarm, in the elbow joint, there are A LOT of veins arteries and nerves in very close proximity to one another so be careful in that part of your arm. I have a pretty fat vein right on top of my artery in my left arm, and have been wondering if i hit the vein or the artery for 2 weeks now since they are on top of each other. I also registered, and then slid out of the vein at the last part of the shot and got tingling and swelling down my arm. So be careful with areas that have a high concentration of nerves, and other things. e.g crook of arm, groin, hands... itll save yousome trouble by going to harmreduction.org or whatever for firsttimers (not that I am too experienced either).
 
A technique that worked well for me involved attaching a key ring to the end of the plunger, then inserting my index finger in the ring. (Kind of like the old time syringes that had a metal loop at the end instead of a "button")

Register, pull back to verify; push forward to finish. Easy as . . . whatever. If you don't have to reposition hands and fingers after registering, you reduce the chance of slipping out.

Riiiiiiiiiing.

FC
 
Fight Club said:
A technique that worked well for me involved attaching a key ring to the end of the plunger, then inserting my index finger in the ring. (Kind of like the old time syringes that had a metal loop at the end instead of a "button")

Register, pull back to verify; push forward to finish. Easy as . . . whatever. If you don't have to reposition hands and fingers after registering, you reduce the chance of slipping out.

Riiiiiiiiiing.

FC
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Damn, that's a pretty cool idea. Never even thought of doing that. Granted, I've never had any problems pulling back on the plunger, but still.
 
Yo Fight Club, nice to see you around man. But you better not be back because you're using, I'll write you off just like that sista, get the fuck out of here ;O

Seriously what syringes have rings at the end of them? Not those fucking big ass "World War 2" syringes?
 
this is such an essential part of the IV process. I didnt know there was people who left it out

but yeah you can still miss a lot even when you register. especially if you use a beat up vein
 
^in this case registering means getting into the vein. if you are in the vein, when you pull back the plunger it should flash full of dark red blood, that means you are in the vein and are ready to inject. its one of the best sights seeing that big red explosion of blood. once you see it you know all you have to do is depress that plunger and bam....lift off.
 
i hate the fact that when i used to register with a 10ml barrel, i had to squeeze down so hard to inject and if i was sweaty or anything it felt like i was gonna stab the entire needle trhu my goddamn arm. like my injecting hand wud be shaking i was pressing down so hard, and all that time i had to keep thr vein exactly in the vein, cause 9 or 10ml is a lot of liquid to skin pop or something :)

luckily ive never missed a shot or had anything bad happen at all apart from the typical red mark :)

p.s. if i had used a 23 instead of 25 gauge needle, could this eliminate the problem of hand force/pressure as the liquid would have had an easier route to get into the vein?
 
The smaller the needle, the harder it is to shoot. Also, I suspect that if you apply huge pressure through a small needle, the liquid might suddenly emerge with excessive force into the vein and damage it. The needle should be in proportion to the barrel (no insulin type needle with a 20ml barrel!). A needle may be clogged by particles, that's why filtering is essential (apart from the issue of infections etc.).
 
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i hate the fact that when i used to register with a 10ml barrel, i had to squeeze down so hard to inject and if i was sweaty or anything it felt like i was gonna stab the entire needle trhu my goddamn arm. like my injecting hand wud be shaking i was pressing down so hard, and all that time i had to keep thr vein exactly in the vein, cause 9 or 10ml is a lot of liquid to skin pop or something :)

luckily ive never missed a shot or had anything bad happen at all apart from the typical red mark :)

p.s. if i had used a 23 instead of 25 gauge needle, could this eliminate the problem of hand force/pressure as the liquid would have had an easier route to get into the vein?
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I imagine that the sheer size of a 23g needle would cause too much damage to your veins, at least if it's a gauge you use regularly. Why not use smaller gauges/syringes, such as 1cc 27-31g? Are you IV'ing something that requires more liquid than 'normal' dope, such as pills?
 
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