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Stimulants Is this a good way to split 2g dextroamphetamine into 5mg capsules?

yoyoman said:
Actually you are making it way too complicated, there is no need for a scale at all with liquid measurement. You only need the scale for measuring the amount of amphetamine/substance at the beginning to put in the liquid.

I think its called volumetric measurement, and it is this easy:
Lets say you have 1g/1000mg d-amphetamine. You can use exactly 1000mL of water, measured with something bought at a store that will accurately measure 1 liter which is 1000mL. Find a bottle with a screw on top like pop bottle or something and put 1000mL water and the 1000mg d-amphetamine in there and let it dissolve, shake etc. Once it is fully dissolved (let it sit for a while just to be sure) it will stay that way, and then just use a medicine syringe that measures in mL... 1 mL = 1mg.

This is a lot of liquid and you probably would rather it be a lot less liquid to deal with so you can make the ratio whatever you want. If you put 1000mg d-amphetamine in 100mL water instead, then each mL will be 10mg. This is actually a good ratio because those little syringes with 100 units to 1mL.. 10 units or 0.1mL = 1mg. This is exactly what I do, and the dosing will ALWAYS be waaaaaay more accurate than any type of powder measuring you try to do. You really cannot get more accurate. You don't even need the scale after you do this, and you can just dose it using a tiny syringe til its gone and you have to make a new batch. You could dissolve much larger amount like 5g in 500mL, 50g in 5000mL etc. and the dosing is the same.

I would put food coloring and put a label on it like "danger, name-of-something-toxic" so random people won't accidently drink it.
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someguyontheinternet said:
I went with a scale because that was listed in the available materials, not everyone has the ability to easily measure mL so mass is a good surrogate
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How stable is a water solution over time? If I mix a larger amount like 2g, it would take me around six months to finish, would the solution remain chemically stable and evenly mixed for that entire period at room temperature? Would it be better to only dissolve a smaller amount (for example, 100 mg at a time) and remix as needed?

For oral administration, I want to avoid using a syringe for daily dosing. Using a single syringe multiple times a day seems like it would compromise sterility, and using three new sterile syringes daily isn't practical.

Would the best method be to put the solution into a small bottle with a dropper (like those used for vitamin drops or essential oils)? This would allow me to measure and place individual drops or tiny amounts (e.g., 0.1mL for 1mg from a 10mg/mL solution) directly under my tongue or into a small drink, without contamination concerns.
 
drreyyyy said:
How stable is a water solution over time? If I mix a larger amount like 2g, it would take me around six months to finish, would the solution remain chemically stable and evenly mixed for that entire period at room temperature? Would it be better to only dissolve a smaller amount (for example, 100 mg at a time) and remix as needed?
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I would either make up smaller solutions that would last about a week or two, or make a big batch, portion it out into smaller bottles and freeze it, thawing and redissolving the speed in them as needed.
drreyyyy said:
For oral administration, I want to avoid using a syringe for daily dosing. Using a single syringe multiple times a day seems like it would compromise sterility, and using three new sterile syringes daily isn't practical.
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I think the syringe is your best bet for accurately and reliably measuring small quantities. Don’t put the syringe in your mouth (ie dispense the liquid into a drink or spoon) and use smaller stocks and contamination wouldn’t be the worst.

Alternately, you could make a 20% ethanol solution to give you more insurance.

drreyyyy said:
Would the best method be to put the solution into a small bottle with a dropper (like those used for vitamin drops or essential oils)? This would allow me to measure and place individual drops or tiny amounts (e.g., 0.1mL for 1mg from a 10mg/mL solution) directly under my tongue or into a small drink, without contamination concerns.
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I would advise against this. I don’t like droppers because you can easily get a squirt and take many more doses than you intended. The larger volume in a syringe means that errors will be of a lower magnitude.
 
Well what i did, to carry doses, is i bought 50 pack of these little 5ml plastic tiny bottles with tops that snap on. It is insanely cheap, like $5 for 50. I just measure out what dose I want (my liquid is more concentrated, 30mg/1mL and I usually take 15mg or 1/2mL) with the syringe and put it in those things if i need to carry doses in my pocket. They work perfectly for that.

I don't think there is anything for bacteria or things to eat in a solution of meth... but if you make the concentration higher (but still good enough to measure accurately, just triple check any math) it seems as if that would help stop it. I have never heard of bacteria or anything trying to eat methamphetamine but I also have not really researched it.

I have not worried about it and when I make a batch of liquid it sits for a couple months maybe.. and i really do not bother with trying to be sterile, i keep using the same little needleless syringe to measure.

Google says benzyl alcohol at very low concentrations will keep bacteria out. like 0.9%. Years ago I bought it for cheap online without issue.
 
Anyone know a lab test like energy control or wedinos can tell the difference between d-amp and racemic? If not is there any other way the average punter could determine the isomer split of a sample?

Helpmeescapethis said:
I know for a fact a very small run of D-amp JUST got produced and sold out
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How did you verify that it was definitely pure dexamphetamine?

Anyone else ever heard of pure dex doing the rounds before?

I know price discussion may be frowned upon in OD so by all means edit this paragraph out if need be but I think it's worth mentioning that purchasing the equivalent of a gram of Dex in pills from an illicit vendor would cost around a grand (based on dnm listings in the UK anyway) so if pure powdered Dex was doing available I'd expect it to be much much more expensive than amphetamine sulphate or meth.

Sorry for the skepticism/questions I'm really just curious. If pure Dex really is doing the rounds it's something I want to know about even if I already have a prescription! Not to mention such a thing would be highly disruptive to the market. It's an absolute pisstake what online vendors charge for genuine ADHD pills.
 
Shinji Ikari said:
Anyone know a lab test like energy control or wedinos can tell the difference between d-amp and racemic? If not is there any other way the average punter could determine the isomer split of a sample?


How did you verify that it was definitely pure dexamphetamine?

Anyone else ever heard of pure dex doing the rounds before?

I know price discussion may be frowned upon in OD so by all means edit this paragraph out if need be but I think it's worth mentioning that purchasing the equivalent of a gram of Dex in pills from an illicit vendor would cost around a grand (based on dnm listings in the UK anyway) so if pure powdered Dex was doing available I'd expect it to be much much more expensive than amphetamine sulphate or meth.

Sorry for the skepticism/questions I'm really just curious. If pure Dex really is doing the rounds it's something I want to know about even if I already have a prescription! Not to mention such a thing would be highly disruptive to the market. It's an absolute pisstake what online vendors charge for genuine ADHD pills.
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it can be tested with polarized light and a filter, I believe a phone screen without the protective cover can provide this. I'm out amd about rn so sorry about the lack of detail, but this is the reason they are called optical isomers

en.wikipedia.org

Enantiomer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
Shinji Ikari said:
Anyone know a lab test like energy control or wedinos can tell the difference between d-amp and racemic? If not is there any other way the average punter could determine the isomer split of a sample?


How did you verify that it was definitely pure dexamphetamine?

Anyone else ever heard of pure dex doing the rounds before?

I know price discussion may be frowned upon in OD so by all means edit this paragraph out if need be but I think it's worth mentioning that purchasing the equivalent of a gram of Dex in pills from an illicit vendor would cost around a grand (based on dnm listings in the UK anyway) so if pure powdered Dex was doing available I'd expect it to be much much more expensive than amphetamine sulphate or meth.

Sorry for the skepticism/questions I'm really just curious. If pure Dex really is doing the rounds it's something I want to know about even if I already have a prescription! Not to mention such a thing would be highly disruptive to the market. It's an absolute pisstake what online vendors charge for genuine ADHD pills.
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Verified lab testing done by friends of mine that acquired it.

And that price is absurd, I feel sorry for you lot.
 
Thanks everyone! Leaning towards the water method based on the thread.

To finalize:
  1. Container: Will a small clear glass bottle in the fridge work, or is amber glass better?
  2. Preservative: Is tap water okay for 2 weeks in the fridge, or should I use distilled water or/and propylene glycol (PG)?
  3. Syringe: Is rinsing a reused oral syringe with tap water and air-drying sufficient for hygiene?
 
drreyyyy said:
Thanks everyone! Leaning towards the water method based on the thread.

To finalize:
  1. Container: Will a small clear glass bottle in the fridge work, or is amber glass better?
  2. Preservative: Is tap water okay for 2 weeks in the fridge, or should I use distilled water or/and propylene glycol (PG)?
  3. Syringe: Is rinsing a reused oral syringe with tap water and air-drying sufficient for hygiene?
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Just use PG. I used it for years with volumetric dosing benzo powders
 
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