is the ceiling dose of codeine for codeine or codeine phosphate

[benzo bars]

I read before abt Buprenorphine, it has a ceiling effect at 12mg, being antagonist at "mu" receptor ( This is where we get the high and analgesia, but still retains being agonist at "kappa" and "delta" receptor).

Buprenorphine's ceiling dose is 32mg or 36mg. Not 12mg

 

[Anon54]

I had 400mg of codeine today which i didnt feel much at all. Ive just had 150mg of diaz too
umm the other night i came home after a really long day & cwe 2 packs 700mg. it was MUCH stronger. i felt like i was on a moderate dose of oxy.
the ceiling dose probably us for codeine not codeine phosphate. meaning u need higher for codeine phosphate for the ceiling dose. something like 150mg more. so u could say that 600mg will defenetely get all the morphine its converted too at that point. & after that atleast the other active metabolites are still active including hydromorphone & the big one CG6.
Ive never doses over a gram. im a little worred about doing so atleast without an antihistamine but the main reason being that the LD50 for codeine to a non tolerant person is 800mg which i think is BS because ive also read the lowest dose anyone over dosed on codeine.

The lowest reported lethal dose is 12mg/kg

so an average person would way 70kg so that's 840mg. now that is the LOWEST do ANYONE has ever died from & it was probably a female who was only really young & only weighed 40kg of so....

 

[Sustanon]

My doctor offered me Suboxone or Subutex, can't really remember which one, I was using 4x30 packs of Panafen Plus a day for months. I went cold turkey and he prescribed some catapres, valium, loperamide and something else for the nausea. It was helpful and the wd symptoms went away after 3-4 days. It really did help with the symptoms as I had tried to stop before. I've cut back to once or twice a week but my tolerance is still through the roof. I'd go see a GP and go cold turkey first before going on Suboxone.

He prescribed all that to get off codeine? Pretty cool doctor you have but I mean would you exchange the addiction to benzos? I know you can use them to taper off but man once your cold turkey you might have a chance to go back to one or the other or even both. Did u manage to quit? Codeine is the only thing that I find so bloody hard to quit, the reason being is because I substituted every substance I abused with Codeine but just cant seem to let go of it. The positives outweigh the negatives for me at the current time. Its not a good thing to keep it going on forever though.

 

[Anon54]

^^yeah i cant quit codeine either. ive tried. but its the only easily available med i can get really.
i sufer from GAD & depression & it seems to help with little side effects & no hangover.

try taking doses 600mg+ it is actually stronger. i got home from the sydney show & i was pretty tired. had 700mg & it was as good as oxy i swear. I usually only do 400mg. ofcourse chemist own pain tablets are the best to do it with because they dissolve themselves while in the freezer.

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ Old thread right here... I've gone far over the ceiling dose and a few others here have with tolerance and had success, there are people who don't seem to find better effects when going higher and a couple of friends of mine are in that same boat.

 

[rilvonsky]

I seem to sometimes get a strong reaction from 380mg (that's a pack of Solpadeine Max CWE'd) and sometimes not so strong; when I add to that another 100-150mg I certainly find myself more 'in the land'.

One thing I don't understand is why more people don't just mix their solution with fruit squash. Here in the UK we have Robinson's brand squash and the dark fruit varieties (e.g. forest fruits) mask the bitterness 100% and taste pretty damn good. I took one sip of the bitter mixture back when I started CWE'ing and thought "to hell with that"; it's been Robinson's ever since.

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ I just drink it as fast as I can these days, but a few people here mix it with cordial or other liquids to mask the taste.

I knew you were from the UK as soon as you said Solpadeine!

 

[Whosajiggawaaa]

Yeah, I'd probably fall into the codeine problem category too. I've been taking anywhere from 400-800 mg a day for the past 6 months and I find the psychological part of quitting is the hardest, the withdrawal is tolerable. Think I just need a hobby or something to replace it. But I'm pleased to see that tramadol can help you get off it as I have a big supply of that. Also had my liver and kidneys tested the other day, they are in tip top shape, so I'm obviously doing the cwe correctly.

 

[Sustanon]

Yeah, I'd probably fall into the codeine problem category too. I've been taking anywhere from 400-800 mg a day for the past 6 months and I find the psychological part of quitting is the hardest, the withdrawal is tolerable. Think I just need a hobby or something to replace it. But I'm pleased to see that tramadol can help you get off it as I have a big supply of that. Also had my liver and kidneys tested the other day, they are in tip top shape, so I'm obviously doing the cwe correctly.

CWE if not done correctly can damage the stomach lining, did u get that checked out too?

 

[pisspotnrock]

whats all this shit about bad tasting CWE juice?

i could sprinkle codeine phosphate on my fish and chips and finish it without gagging

there's a distinct difference between chugging cold water (tasteless, odorless. for arguments sake we'll use pure water, H20) extraction mixture and sprinkling the equivalent dose of the phosphate on a meal.

^ yeah yeah, it was a joke.
ive never actually sprinkled codiene phosphate powder onto my meals..

i have necked several litres worth of codiene containing tap water in my time though..
its actually quite tasty when you've got something to cleanse the palate with shortly after.

with your general demeamour and attitude toward the posters it's a little hard to figure out when you're being sarcastic or saying things just to be an asshole. there are younger impressionable posters around so it doesn't hurt to try set an example, you know?

^a sense of humor is a symptom of a healthy individual

what part of using codeine phosphate as salt on my fish and chips could be taken seriously?
Let alone be a danger to the younguns?

I know you don't like me but you're just making a fool of yourself by dropping down to my level.

hahaha

R.I.P mate.. I still have a good laugh when I run into alot of your old posts