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Is my body likely to tolerate Cannabis ?

Hmm.

as others have said, I would either eat or vaporize ... vape comes on quicker and it will be easier to find a suitable dose. Eating it is also fairly controlled, takes longer to come on though so don't eat to much. eating to much is overwhelming for a longer period of time.

If at all possible, find some pot that is of indica strain and not to strong (find a medical pot grower if possible or grow your own, search microgrows and be aware of local laws)

while both can get you sweating and heart thumping, its takes more indica than sativa to do it. Sativa also generally gives a brain that races.

Leaves would be fine in cooking, any part of the plant that has Trichomes is usuable.
 
I feel for you man, although, as has been said before, due to the numerous possible variables and relatively low description of the advanced properties of the condition, I feel it would be wrong for me to give you an answer in one direction or the other.
 
I have a simple question.

What is it that you hope to gain from smoking pot? What role do you see it playing in terms of bettering your current situation?
I am not asking these questions in an accusatory or judgemental way, I am genuinely curious.

Although you haven't told all the details of your unfortunate cirumstances, I think I've gathered a rough picture of your current position. I know that you are now a young adult, living at home with your parents, and have suffered, and continue to suffer from a host of symptoms stemming from an autonomic dysfunction. I know that this dysfunction has left you with limited abilities and you are reliant on your parents for a great number of things. I also understand that this unfortunate condition has negatively impacted your social life, ability to pursue a career, and likely has just made nearly every aspect of your life a struggle which probably gets to the point of seeming hopeless at times.
It sounds like a cliche, but I really do feel for you man, and without getting into it now, I can actually relate to your situation, though I have no doubt that
the degree and severity of your situation is outside the scope of any similar situation I have had to contend with.

So with all of that aside, what are you hoping pot will provide for you? Are you hoping to use if medicinally for pain relief? If so, you should know that while pot can act as an analgesic, it is only effective at treating certain types of pain.
Or, are you simply looking for something to help you escape? To take your mind off your daily struggles and anxieties? If you are just sitting around all day at your parents house with nothing to do, I can easily imagine that you would be looking for something to "do", and since you have limited abilities, a drug that could potentially transport you to another place without you actually having to leave your chair, might seem like a good answer.

So, can you help to clarify what you are hoping to gain by using pot in your situation? Thanks. Be well-DG
 
ask your dealer for mids. vape a small nug and see howit progresses. however do not smoke a lil, feel ok, and then smoke more deeming your fine. generally raise the dose slowly. the thing with smokig weed for the firsttime in a while is thugs like paranoia tend to hit u harder as your not "tolerant " to itanymore. work on convincing yourself your being stupidly paranoid and don't get all scared. i reccomend doing so
ething right after smoking, like watching tv to get your mind relaxed, or else u might start thinking oh shit my heart is beating fast and loop yourself into a panic attack. maybe take a benzo low dose to relax. just relax, and if your busy and you notice your heart is beatting really hard w/oh sittig there thinking about then ull know the true effects weed has on you.

personally I've noticed weed has helped me with depression. whenevrr I'm in a pissy mood or really angry my natural instict is to smoke a bowl, it always make me feel a lot better. gl weed is an amazing herb
 
Thank you sega , very useful link and thank you MDMA great advice.

beamish said:
if you are either gonna kill yourself or smoke weed.. then i dont get why you are worried about if smoking the weed will have adverse effects.
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Excellent question and I anticipated someone would ask me that....

The short answer is, for the same reason a person seeking suicide would want to end their life the quickest method possible without feeling further pain and suffering.

The detailed answer is...This may be difficult for someone healthy to understand but I will answer as honestly as possible, after years of pain and suffering death seems like a relief, however experiencing more adverse effects only adds to the suffering because not only is it physically distressing to have an adverse effect it is also emotionally troubling seeing my body in an abnormal state not reacting to substances as normal people do, when I so desperately wish I was normal and healthy again. So whilst a clean fast death does not scare me continuing to suffer and feel pain does.
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So, can you help to clarify what you are hoping to gain by using pot in your situation? Thanks. Be well-DG
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You pretty much answered the questions for me as you were spot on, and you have understood my situation exactly, its a combination of physical and emotional pain relief. I just dont want to be here feeling this shit anymore, I really need a break from myself and from all the crap that has become a part of me restricting my life, even if it is for a short while maybe pot can do that for me.
 
sooo... try weed. if it works then step back from edge, if it makes things worse then jump off the edge. simple.
i hope weed will help you, my suggestion is to try vaping, as smoke may compound your autonomic problems.
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ok, but the problem is that pot is probably going to do the exact opposite of what you want it to do.
You say you want a "break" and to "get away from yourself". I completely understand that and can sympathize with you. However I think your choice of drugs to attain this "break" is way off. Pot tends to make one extremely introspective. You begin to over-analyze everything. This seems to be exactly what you are trying to get away from. There are certain drugs (opiates being a prime example), that do let you "escape", and make your troubles and problems go away (only while you are under their influence of course). This does not mean I am advocating you rush off and shoot heroin, Im just trying to explain that based on what you say you want out of your drug experience, marijuana seems about the worst choice you could possibly make.

Obviously in this thread Ive tried to make this point 200 different ways. Clearly Im not anti-drug, and I understand why you want to use and feel that its completely justifiable. My concern is that marijuana will likely not provide the "escape" you want, and much worse, it will almost certainly magnify your unhappiness due to its tendency to make the user extremely introspective and analytical. If that is the effect you want, then marijuana is a great drug, but from all you've said, you want to get away from your problems and get out of your head. Marijuana is the opposite of that. Good luck-DG

EDIT: And Beamish-I know your suggestion of "jumping off the edge" was said in jest (I fucking hope), but even so, this should not be joked about. Furthermore, if Unlucky does try pot and it doesn't do what he wants it to, that's hardly the end of the line. I don't like where this thread has gone- its turned into "Either I try pot and it works for me, or I die". There are always other avenues to pursue and things to try and reasons to remain hopeful and reasons to live. I know that sounds cliche and like the words of someone who hasn't suffered to the degree that someone who is suicidal has, but it is true. It's arrogant and vain to be convinced that you have exhausted all possibilities and that tomorrow will be the same as today.
If one is suffering terribly, and could be CERTAIN that things will not ever change, then we can talk about suicide being a reasonable option. And while I have no doubt that Unlucky, or anyone else here, may be suffering and in a great deal of pain today, they have no real idea of what the future may have in store..unless of course they kill themselves in which case there is nothing in store-ever.
 
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Unlucky said:
^ ok but are you sure good weed is better for me than the low grade stuff ?
I dont doubt what your saying I just need a bit more info what you said before I can decide, thanks.
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Shwag will no doubt do more damage over time then high grade. The reason being more THC to plant material, less tar for a better high, etc. Also, hydro is grown well, whereas Shwag may have some nasty chemicals involved in the grow process you might not want.

Weed may help you. It may not. It is a drug and reacts differently for everyone. If it doesn't work for you, there are obviously other answers.
 
daddysgone, thanks for lookin out for me, your a top guy :)

The other thing is when I used to smoke pot over 10 years ago (before I developed this neurological illness) all my experinces were very pleasant, I have all these fond memorys of feeling chilled and relaxing with friends whilst high.

I guess if my body somehow manages to tolerate the cannibis I feel like I might be back in that nice zone again, but i realise my frame of mind has changed since so it is possible you could be right as well but unles i try it at least once I wont know.

I think right now the hardest thing is seeing if my body will physically allow me to smoke without experiencing and adverse reaction and if thats sucessful the next challange is to see how I feel emotionally whilst im high, I think theres a %50 chance you could be right and a %50 chance I could just lay back chuk on some tunes and enjoy the high. But unless I try it at least once I wont know for sure.
 
Ok, that sounds reasonable.
So putting aside the emotional concern and focusing on the physical aspect, lets find the safest way you can try pot.

Would it be possible to have your parents present when you smoke so that they can monitor you, or is this something you would be doing "behind their back".

It would be ideal if they could be with you when you tried pot so that they could take appropriate actions if you have a bad reaction. However, I completely understand if this is not an option for you. I would imagine that your parents might be VERY anti-drug given your history and the negative consequences you have suffered from your past drug use.

If you cannot ask them to be with you, I really think you need to find someone who can sit with you when you try it. Based on your past physical reactions to pot, its just too damn dangerous to try this on your own.

So thats the first thing-you need to find someone to be with you when you try pot before you even consider it.

I agree with many here that vaping would be a good idea. I think someone mentioned that when you actually burn pot, there are far more chemicals released then if you were to vape it.

I also think it would be a good idea to have a benzo on hand (like xanax or valium), assuming of course that you know that your body can tolerate benzos.
The anxiety that pot can cause often feeds on itslf-you start to panic, realize you are panicking, which gives your more anxiety, etc. .. If you can tolerate a benzo, this could help break that cycle.

By the way, how do you plan on getting the pot? Do you know someone who can get it for you? Maybe this same person could sit with you when you try it? Good luck-DG
 
Wow man your very insightful, you were spot on ineverything you said. even on how " my parents might be VERY anti-drug given your history and the negative consequences you have suffered from your past drug use".

This might sound ridicilious but I even have reactions to benzo's, ye my body just sucks :(

I have kept some numbers of people who used to be my friends many years, mainly people from my rave crew before I became sick, I was hoping to ask them for a favour to see if they know anyone that could hook me up. I dont know if I would be pushin it if I also asked them to keep an eye on me while I took a puff, Im sure I will work somethin out.

I agree vaporizer would be ideal to avoid more chemicals, I might try and buy a cheap one just incase the pot dosent work out for me and i wont be able to use the vaporizer again.

Thanks for all your help.
 
beamish, this is a HARM REDUCTION website.
how the FUCK can you even consider telling someone to try the option of
"well if it makes you feel worse, just commit suicide"



wtf man, some people might take that shit seriously.
 
My suggestion for method of ingestion should you decide to use marijuana:

Have a friend take a bong hit for you, but leave the bong's chamber full of smoke.
You take a small hit, but don't clear the bong.
Cover the bong with saran wrap and a rubber band to hold in the remaining smoke.
Wait 10 minutes or more, and see if you should increase the dosage.
Repeat as many times as necessary, having the lucky friend fill the bong multiple times if necessary.:)

Alternatively, the friend can exhale into a balloon, immediately after having inhaled, to preserve some of the good stuff and you take hits from the balloon - very small at first, as with the bong method.

If it is possible, a vaporizer can be used instead of a bong, to reduce unwanted chemicals in the output.

The objective is for you to allow the effects to gradually come on, so that you can control the dosage and stop when you are ready.

(Though, personally, I think that you might not be ready to stop for years, since you will enjoy it, especially based on your past experience ;))
 
Sega420 said:
beamish, this is a HARM REDUCTION website.
how the FUCK can you even consider telling someone to try the option of
"well if it makes you feel worse, just commit suicide"



wtf man, some people might take that shit seriously.
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uhmmm what? he is the one talking about killing himself, he sounds pretty determined. read the WHOLE thread instead of just the last few posts before responding.
 
JUST SMOKE IT .. MJ WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER KILL ANY ONE .. yes you will most probably get paranoid as shit , throw up (i did my first time ) but nothing will ever happen to you .. your high will leave in about 2 hours and you'll just get hungry a fall asleep ..how your high will turn out is all up to you .. the only thing that can freak you out is yourself
 
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