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Is my american friend nuts? or a genius?

Raasyvibe

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Hi all.

Just posting a question about my American friend, as no-one in my country can really answer this.

Mods if you feel this thread is more suited to the "Get to know your neighbo(u)rs from across the pond" thread, my apologies and feel free to move/merge it.

So I have a friend who lives in America. I'm from England. He keeps telling me all this shite about the state of his country... and I can't tell if he's delusional, or maybe really clever (My money's on the delusional, knowing him)

Is there any truth in what he's telling me over facebook? here's a recent chat log:

Tyler
btw man shit is getting bad here in the states

12:50pm
Me


What now tylord.... Another huge civil war because joel said so?


12:50pm
Tyler

joel ?

no my brother is largely a sheeple

there will be a civil war/2nd revolution in this country theres no stopping that

its only time

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You dont really understand whats happening here do you?


12:51pm
Me

No


12:51pm

Tyler

ok ill try to explain it to you

the democrats ( a party you europeans would relate to) the socialist party are at a bitter stalemate with the republicans (the small government party)

however the democrats have had an upperhand and have passed a number of laws and acts that are in and of themselves illegal to pass in the first place

for example the NDAA, patriot act, ect

you dont know what those acts are, but to put it very simple, they completely violate the entirety of the bill of rights

the bill of rights are rights guarenteed under the united states consitituion, the government has no authority over them, however theyve been very busy doing just that

now all that isnt the only problem we have here

the patriot act created "DHS" the department of homeland security

the purpose of DHS is to protect the US"s southern boarder from the drug cartels of mexico and to assist/backup local law enforcement and national guard units in the event of terrorism or an invasion

however the main purpose is the boarder, now they havent spent a single day at the boarder, not one single member of dhs has been to the boarder

dhs is under the command of the president, its the presidents personal army

which is a violation of government but thats not the only alarming issue


with the recent (many believe it was a false flag operation, as the US uses them quite often in foreign matters) school shooting and massive push for gun control the people resisted in unprecidented numbers

gun purchases exploded in this country to record highs, decades of guns/gun related items were sold in weeks, ammo is still largely gone and this is with every ammo manufacturer that imports to the US as well as all within the boarders working 24 hours a day 7 days a week

in fact for 3 months in the US a gun was sold every 1.5 seconds and thats not counting people who bought more than one gun (which is quite common)

pro gun organizations saw massive spikes in memberships the NRA in particular grew 300,000 members in 3 weeks

now the gun control advocates lost their battle (for now) however DHS is buying massive and i mean massive amounts of ammo, armored personel carriers, ect, and when the senate questions why they are buying so much they refuse to answer

the president has openly discussed using executive orders to confiscate guns from the people ( a suicidal move)

well over half the states themselves passed laws stating that if the federal government moves in to take guns the respective states national guard units are to counteract them



1:05pm
Tyler
combine all that with the fact that our economy is crumbled to waste with zero improvement in the past 4 years, staggering unemployment, inflation rising, welfare recipients rising ( basically most on welfare are lazy fuckers who refuse to work and are paid to do nothing by the wonderful democratic party)


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1:06pm

Tyler
this is a true shit storm my friend, people everywhere here are talking about whats comming, and you see what you need to understand is the US is the only thing stopping an explosion of violent conflicts around the world, from china to the middle east. once we're busy fighting a civil war, the rest of the world will follow

1:07pm

Tyler
our navy ensures all of europe gets its oil, our military protects not only japan, but taiwan, south korea, the phillipins, and a host of other countries
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1:08pm

Tyler

you also need to know that the US exports a very large volume of food to the rest of the world, we wont be doing any of that while fighting a revolution, so food prices everywhere will explode as well and given the economic fragility of the european union i dont see them weathering the storm

1:25pm

Me

Oh god... Do I have to read all that

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June 6
Tyler
5:51pm

if you wish to understand the future of not only america but yourself, then yes



June 7
11:30pm

Me

Im not reading all that only to find it's all wrong. Lifes too short (especially if our economy falls because of ur civil war and riots take over the streets and the whole world falls into chaos)

June 8
12:11pm

Tyler

im not sure how you can dismiss what is happening here without being here yourself, we americans have an extensive history of fighting tyranny. at any rate to me your answer sounds more like one burying his head in sand, such dishonor
 
Oh there's a shitstorm coming that's for sure. Funny too how the department of homeland security is buying all of the bullets for practically every type of gun from public suppliers and stockpiling it leaving next to none behind for the citizens to buy...

not sure if your friend is correct with the whole democrats vs republicans thing, they're really both fucked up. But either way, yes our rights are being taken away quickly, our freedoms are being crushed, and with how shitty the economy is and how crazy people are getting in general it's only a matter of time till some shit breaks out. I for one will proudly be one of the first to join the fight if something does in fact break out even if I am one of the first to get killed. Eventually though, hopefully if enough people wake up and pull their heads out of their asses and notice what's going on around them and stop just bending over and taking it in the ass we can win our country back.

Shit, that's why this country exists in the first place. We broke off of some oppressive rulers to try to live a free life for ourselves, not to have every aspect of our life controlled and regulated and taxed and have the fear of punishment around every corner. And that's why we have the constitution and bill of rights that we have, to ensure that we never again end up being ruled by that type of government, which is exactly what we are currently being ruled by right now. It was written by a bunch of scared dudes that were trying to make sure it couldn't happen again, but it all got too big to the point where people no longer noticed that all of those rules are being blatantly ignored.

Shit sucks, but whatever. It's sure time for a change.
 
I for one will proudly be one of the first to join the fight if something does in fact break out even if I am one of the first to get killed. Eventually though, hopefully if enough people wake up and pull their heads out of their asses and notice what's going on around them and stop just bending over and taking it in the ass we can win our country back.

QFT.i
 
Patriot act was passed by Bush Administration. But other than that, I completely disagree with the fact that Democrats are socialist. They just think that big business isn't exactly trustworthy (as has proven time and time again) and therefore give money to the actual people who need it.....the people!

I do have to say though, I also feel like there will be another revolution. Not because the Democrats and Republicans are at a stalemate, but rather due to the fact that the government is doing things behind the people's back. This isn't just one parties fault, it's every parties fault. When we hear of things like the NSA and PRISM; This pisses everyone off and eventually we're going to be pushed to our limit.

Btw, I think all republicans are idiots, so I'd say nuts.
 
America is having problems and our rights are being take away little by little, I don't take sides politically because as far as I can tell all politicians are liars and criminals who are out for themselves and their friends. I don't think we are anywhere near a violent revolution that's seems a little far fetched to me, but something is going to have to happen soon. We are rapidly approaching a police state, this stuff in the news about the nsa and the recent leaks about spying on U.S. citizens and other countries makes everyone really angry. Also I'm not to sure what the current numbers are but the approval rating for congress, the senate and the house of reps together, is something like 10%, obviously somethings going to happen in the not too distant future
 
The government is to big and they think they know what's best for us. Goddamnit if I want a super sized soda pop who are you to tell me I can't have it.
 
Your friend is pretty spot on. This country is in a bad slump and has been for at least 8 years if not longer. Still one of the best countries ti live in though.
 
Patriot act was passed by Bush Administration...

...I do have to say though, I also feel like there will be another revolution. Not because the Democrats and Republicans are at a stalemate, but rather due to the fact that the government is doing things behind the people's back. This isn't just one parties fault, it's every parties fault. When we hear of things like the NSA and PRISM; This pisses everyone off and eventually we're going to be pushed to our limit.

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couldn't have said it better myself.
Left vs right is just a go-nowhere smoke and mirrors play designed to keep our outraged occupied so the snakes behind the curtain can slither without interruption
Many people are finally realizing this thank God.
Who knows what will eventually happen though. That's the real fear.
I for one think I would look pretty good in camo and a Guy Fawkes mask
 
world war 3 is coming to America
Obama is going to double cross America
That is why they are buying up all the bullets
and not normal bullets Hollow points which are used to kill
and illegal in war to have according to the United Nations

North Korea,Iran,Russia, China, Brazil, India, and some other countries
are going to invade and attack America and its allies
World war 3 is going to look like Muslim/Commie Nations Vs America & its allies
Obama is buying up all these tools of war and storing them all over America
For our enemies to use on fellow Americans during the war
Obama is a down low Commie/Muslim as it is anyhow he just hides that fact
He hates this country his goal is to bring it down and Israel down
Why else would he and his administration be supporting the Muslim brother hood and other enemies of America/Israel
He has giving them millions of dollars of support and tools of war

America is training so many of these other countires military on our own soil
we have been already invaded and most people do not even know it
They are just waiting for the call and they will be ready

But first America is going to get slammed by many " Natural disasters"
such as Tsunami's / Tornado's / Hurricanes / Volcanoes / Earth Quakes
Than these countries will come to " Help out fellow Americans"
right when we are down to our lowest we will be bombed and invaded
With Obama and his administration hiding in their bunkers
everyone on top will be fucked......
 
The thingi want to do the MOSTbefore the shit hits the fan, is GTFO GET THE FUCK OUT OF UNITED SHEEPLE STATES. I will not pretend to know what is going on or be informed, but i will say i can feel it. Call me crazy. Place isnt what it used to be. Maybe it is just me. Take care all!:-)
 
As soon as the shit hits the fan I'm gonna rob every vet and pharmacy and head for the hills and avoid as much human contact as possible.
 
This all smacks of The Turner Diaries. The danger in USA today is not from "commie/muslim" elements but from the nation's almost-unnoticed slide into fascism.
 
world war 3 is coming to America
Obama is going to double cross America
That is why they are buying up all the bullets
and not normal bullets Hollow points which are used to kill
and illegal in war to have according to the United Nations

North Korea,Iran,Russia, China, Brazil, India, and some other countries
are going to invade and attack America and its allies
World war 3 is going to look like Muslim/Commie Nations Vs America & its allies
Obama is buying up all these tools of war and storing them all over America
For our enemies to use on fellow Americans during the war
Obama is a down low Commie/Muslim as it is anyhow he just hides that fact
He hates this country his goal is to bring it down and Israel down
Why else would he and his administration be supporting the Muslim brother hood and other enemies of America/Israel
He has giving them millions of dollars of support and tools of war

America is training so many of these other countires military on our own soil
we have been already invaded and most people do not even know it
They are just waiting for the call and they will be ready

But first America is going to get slammed by many " Natural disasters"
such as Tsunami's / Tornado's / Hurricanes / Volcanoes / Earth Quakes
Than these countries will come to " Help out fellow Americans"
right when we are down to our lowest we will be bombed and invaded
With Obama and his administration hiding in their bunkers
everyone on top will be fucked......

When I first read this - I had no idea how someone could be so ignorant, but then I saw you have "My own little world" set as your location......that explained everything.
 
all that and it hasn't changed my life in the slightest

people claiming the govt is going to take their guns has been around since the first European settlers landed here over 400 years ago

so, to put it lightly, your friend is a fucking idiot

im not sure how you can dismiss what is happening here without being here yourself, we americans have an extensive history of fighting tyranny. at any rate to me your answer sounds more like one burying his head in sand, such dishonor

point and case

I live in the US, I'm dismissing this, think what you want
 
if there is a civil war, you guys have a great time fighting it. i am moving to canada and waiting that shit out.
 
This all smacks of The Turner Diaries. The danger in USA today is not from "commie/muslim" elements but from the nation's almost-unnoticed slide into fascism.

The good Dr was a profit, right along with Ted Kazinski.
I haven't met many people that have read the turner diaries.
 
As soon as the shit hits the fan I'm gonna rob every vet and pharmacy and head for the hills and avoid as much human contact as possible.

Funny, I'll have a similar strategy just minus the running to the hills part. Maybe a little bit into the hills, but I'll stick around for the chaos. Just with lots of drugs.
 
I don't think we're on the verge of revolution at all and frankly I'm surprised that people think we are. What exactly would be the goal of this revolution? Don't get me wrong things could be better but, they could certainly be a lot worse and I for one do not feel oppressed. When I look out my window I see no soldiers on patrol or anything remotely close and I won't deny that the NSA has the capability to spy on all my electronic shit but, they aren't after me so I don't care.

I think there's a big difference between a country that has people bitching about potential laws and policy and a rebellion with a real cause to fight for. We have no real cause and until that changes I think "revolution" is just a crazy fantasy.
 
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