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Is Meth really that bad

Chubba75 said:
You need at LEAST 3 shots for a good night, so that's 6 points of ice to have any fun.
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This is where the problem lays, the drug becomes the means of having fun instead of being an enhancer of a good time.
 
Trying to work out on the different forms of methamphetamines is difficult, and inaccurate really because of all the different names referring to different things depending on your social circle.

I used to live in Perth, and what 'bugger_me' is saying about crystal use ending up with a new group of mates all the next day is exactly what used to happen!

However I do remember many occasions where people really just wanted to keep smoking so they would end up working their way through a crossword book for something to do... that kind of thing made me wonder whether it was about being social or about smoking crystal..

Here in Melbourne - it's available but it's not the same culture as Perth from what I can tell - it's not so much about getting fucked up here than back home!

NB Perth still rox :P
 
I've been clean of amphetamine for about 9 weeks, i flushed the last of my ice down the toilet and to be honest i haven't really had the problem of a craving in the same sense as nicotine, as in i have to have it for no logical reason. That said i think about still probably every hour of every day but its logical thing as i absolutely love the drug and know i would enjoy it if i did it again this doesn't really give me any sort of 'drive' to use again its more just wishful thinking. Smoking weed heavily for the first two weeks i think helped kill the boredom which was one the things i turned to the drug to escape.
 
This is where the problem lays, the drug becomes the means of having fun instead of being an enhancer of a good time.
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It's still both... of course shooting "ice" is more self-centered, but I never do it alone (tweaking by yourself is torture) and afterwards I always have the sudden urge to socialise and talk shit :)
 
What a good open discussion!

Meth, if real and pure, can be really good. I agree with a comment earlier about it "adding to a good time".

Might I suggest looking at the forum "Darkside" in Bluelight and have a look in there. In it are contained a far deal of North Amerian experiences of Meth and this may add to your harm minimization/research for your question.

Another is the Vaults of Ewroid (Spelling assistance required????) and check do a search for Meth... and go to "Glowing Experiences" and then to "Train wrecks and disasters". Perhaps this may add to your knowledge.
 
I've been doing a bit of whizz, not crystal, and always snorting. I have now made the decision to not snort anymore, which is good because now I have access to crystal and base more easily than cut shit, and it is only going to be a weekend thing whereas somehow I always could justify doing whizz through the week. Dumping a single E is enough for me to want to keep my habits for the weekend for some odd reason...
 
i've been looking all over bluelight for a thread like this;) meth is some serious shit...i'm amazed some of you were smokin 2 grams a day for extensive periods of time. mind if i ask what are some long-term effects you have from that type of usage?

right now i'm at the crossroads in my usage. i used to have a weekend habit a few years back but never let it get too out of hand. lately tho i've been using it during the week for study purposes and it really has a serious effect on your life if u dont "put a leash" on it as someone mentioned before:( i'm not gonna let it get the best of me tho. u really cant quit completely tho unless you are READY to quit completely :\ comforting to see there are some other people fighting with this alongside me...
 
mAgiC8baLL said:
u really cant quit completely tho unless you are READY to quit completely :\
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That has hit the nail on the head. That's the same with anything though. The sad thing with meth is that you don't realise it has fucked you up as an individual until you lose something of importance to you. It changes your personality with regular use. Makes you grumpy ALWAYS.
Thankfully I had the will to not touch the shit anymore (been 6 months without) after a 6 month problem with it. Thankfully i don't have any urge to go near it again either.

Be careful with this little package people. It's expensive and it'll ass-rape you the second you let your guard down... that first ' i'll just have a little before class' or something is the first steps to a major fuck up

peace
 
yeah. i have come to the conclusion. from what i asked originally. that it isnt just meth that is bad, it can also be whippa. or pills ect for that matter. if takin on a regualar basis.
i really do see its up to the indiviual to control what path you take. I go hard on weekends. but i know its just not right/ or viable to start doing it during the week. i mean why would i wanna.
and im not having a go at anymore who does during the week.
just this thread which has been amazing and has kinda showed me its more up to the individual to have some strength of character and will power and limit it to weekend ( just for partying).
its more an enhancement of nights out, rather than part of daily living
and im not saying that people that do it during the week dont have strength of character. just for me, this thread has kinda shown me some signs to the downward spiral and also to just be careful.
i find that stopping during the week is good enough in the fact that what goes up must comedown. if u take more on the monday morning to delay feeling shit. its gonna come back and bite you in the ass eventually. and im already not a fan of the tuesday blues from a weekend out, little own doing more damage and trying to delay comedown.
i hope this makes sense. cos it has for me.

having said all that, i think the moral of the story is that meth/whippa for that matter, needs to be treated with respect. because it doesnt take much to fall down in a downwards spiral. and like said before. you need to keep ur guard up.

remember u control the drug
party safe. %)
 
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This is where the problem lays, the drug becomes the means of having fun instead of being an enhancer of a good time.
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And with this excellent quote you have just summarized the nightmarish hell that is meth addiction.
sooo true, so deranged, so mad, so sad. But so damn good when you do get it! Sheeet! :X

"i have no problems quitting. Its the STAYING quit i have a bit of trouble with."
 
I agree with everything you say luciddreamer! Im from there and know exactly what you mean!! Ice / P has blown bigtime here almost everyone I know smokes it! Even people who used to only smoke weed are now just on meth.. 2 years ago it would be mainly just pills, k + coke - not anymore...
 
bugger_me: the temptation during the week is the increased work performance and efficiency. i usually plan out at the start of each week whether i'm gonna be doin it during the week or on the weekend...never both.

sometimes i have an overwhelming amount of obligations i have to attend to and its just not possible to get it all done while fitting in eating and sleeping time in a 24 hour period :( i know it may sound weak-willed of me to say this but i know i'm not the only one who thinks this way. i find the tempation to take it during the week to be FAR greater than taking it on the weekend...
 
for me.,
doing drugs purely to service day to day living means u have/starting a problem.
drugs to me if about enhancement of nights out/time with friends. not about getting you through to the day.

jus my 2 cents . no offence
 
Remember it's a recreational drug!

It's not a fun-drug-that-can-also-help-with-day-to-day-living drug.
 
Hey,

I'm going to weigh in a little late here.

Not to be overly dramatic, but weekend meth use has led to the almost total destruction of a close friend's life.

My friend G started using every weekend. Once just an occasional Saturday night pick-me-up for myself and friends, it became a necessity for every Saturday, then Friday, and eventually Sunday evening for G. She stopped being able to go out with friends, not being able to afford any luxuries outside of meth use. She lost control of her finances. Which meant she had to work more hours to stay afloat. Which of course meant she had to start using meth to have enough energy after a weekend binge to face work on a Monday morning.

It's now crept into every facet of her life, where if she doesn't have it, she's working to get enough money to score, so she can keep working, so she can get enough money to score...

The last time i saw her, her skin was actually grey, her hair limp and dull, her eyes were sunk into her sockets, she was covered in pock marks where she'd been picking at her skin, completely oblivious to the damage she was doing. She just seemed ... brittle. Like she would break into pieces if she fell. It's easy not to notice how bad things have gotten if you're living with it every day, but i hadn't seen her for a while, and when i did i was really shocked at the change in her. And she's fucked up her mind, too.

The most priceless, complex and valuable possession you'll ever have the good fortune to own, and she's pissing it away. Her meth abuse has acted as a catalyst for a plethora of psychological issues. She also can't seem to hold a conversation that requires any level of analytical thought anymore. She comes across as an embarrasing cliche of a junkie, with no self respect and nothing to contribute to a conversation except more boring, useless cliches.

And i thought fuck. Could this happen to anyone?

Sorry if this comes across like some kind of sensationalised anti-drug propaganda, but this is exactly how it happened, just like they told us it would in high school health class.

Kudos to you if you can keep it above board, and keep the use to purely recreational levels.
 
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