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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Is it just me, or does Tramadol suck?

@castoutbySociety - Heh, but the only reason many people try Tramadol (or certainly for me) was because I haven't got access to Oxycodone or Hydrocodone - the latter isn't even marketed or produced in the UK :( - and the former is extremely hard to get on the streets, apparently.
 
@Cornishman - Any preperation is probably better than none - providing you actually tried. But I'd much prefer to have 1g of APAP than 3g at once etc., as Naggers pointed out in this apparent video :P
 
AutonomousOwl said:
@Naggers - Was it properly lab-tested for contents of APAP - in that case, I'd advise avoiding OTC Codeine if possible. Because 6g is potentially (if not certainly) toxic to the liver - and can lead to many complications - including, but not limited to eventual death!
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Nah it looked like he was doing it in his kitchen. He isolated the powder left from it and wieghed it with the little mg scale thingy. I can't find the video I'm afraid, a mod posted saying "not sure what the point of this thread is" so I guess it may have been deleted.

Still though, most of us are doing it in our kitchens. Unless he made some mistakes in his method (didn't notice any), there's people doing CWE's all the time as it seems to be very popular, and if they're doing anything close to what we're talking about they're still ingesting potentially lethal amounts of APAP.

Apologies, I do love a little digression but just to take us back to the main topic for a moment, does anyone know of any tramadol potentiation methods? Perhaps ways of getting more out of it in us inferior beings who don't feel the effects? :)
 
@Naggers - Diphenhydramine and other anti-histamines can be used to potentiate any opioid/opiate as far as I know.

Also, weighing the powder doesn't sound very accurate, I guess it still had a lot of water in etc. For _most_ people with normal livers, anything below 8g, probably won't be lethal; but I wouldn't bet my life on it. I was researching into cases, and couldn't find any lethal hepatic toxicity from below that. But it certainly has the potential to damage your liver, and cause further harm in the future - and possibly death from inducing more (but less quantity) or something else
 
Found it: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=8204988

So I got a couple of things wrong and as some people in the thread pointed out there are a couple of flaws in his method. However, each CWE guide I've read seems to disagree on a few points in the process leaving us to guess. For example, whether to start with hot water and let it cool with the tablets/powder inside then get it chilly, or to start with cold water in the first place.

Aaaanyway, it does raise a good point that nobody really *checks* how much APAP they've removed.
 
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Its just you and others :D

Im one of the "blessed" people that get great results from tram. It shits all over codiene for sure and in its hay day was up there with more potent painkillers.

Unfortunatley, tolerance does eventually build, albeit quite slow and the SRRI/SNRI antideppressant effects along with shitty side effects are all but left :(

I'd try it abit more, max 400mg's, maybe have some bud, or some downers as they synergise luurvly. Drop a few of those codienes a few hours into it also. (all suggestions are too be taken cautiously! As you seem quite opiate intolerant)

Might grow on you like how people don't first initially feel/appreciate the effects of opiates/weed etc however 150mg tram with a decent codiene tolerance years ago had me fucked all day from the get go.
 
Okay I'm feeling some pretty strong effects now. No euphoria still, but it feels almost like being drunk. I can't concentrate on things or think clearly and I feel... I want to say 'dizzy' but it's not really... just intoxicated. This is now just over 5 hours after taking 350mg. Does it normally last this long? Has anyone ever had the effects only start to appear after this period of time?
 
@Naggers - This is my last post to this thread now, must sleep! But I noticed with Tramadol, the euphoria I did get was in waves, and it didn't kick in for hours - partly because I cleverely took SR
 
AutonomousOwl said:
@Naggers - Diphenhydramine and other anti-histamines can be used to potentiate any opioid/opiate as far as I know.
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Well, potentiate is probably the wrong word to use. I'd say it reduces side effects, the itch, nausea. It also increases the sedation and anti-anxiety element. I cannot imagine it potentiating the Euphoria though.
 
The long and the short of it, its just you, literally. Your body does not produce the high off Tramadol that others can get.
 
This is a pill i've had a lot of discussions about, personally, i love them.. after doing H for years, i moved losing all my contacts and so decided to stop for awhile..i was given a script of trams from a friend years back and at first i thought they were crap, but now, i pretty much live on them lol.. a friend in the south in the US told me you cant give them away down there, no one wants them..and those i have shared them with either just get really sick from them or feel nothing at all.. i am on 200 pills a month, 50mgs..but at the same time i still love all other opiates i have always loved.. dihydrocodeine is everywhere over here..and you can get co-codamol over the counter here, but it rips your stomach to shreds because its mixed with paracetemol.
 
phatass said:
tramadol sucks imo.. i largely prefer the warmth of codeine or morphine...
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Abso-fucking-lutely.

I even prefer Codeine (and hence Morphine) to Dihydrocodeine. As you say, it has that extra warmth to it. Soooooo much more satisfying
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So after a week of using these Tramadol the effects are slowly increasing. I've been dosing 250-350mg every couple of days. Nowhere near as good as codeine though. I just feel a bit of euphoria in waves and general intoxication (dizziness etc). God I miss codeine so much. I was never addicted but it is just the best thing I have ever tried.
 
Much like you, I've been using codeine for a year, my tolerance is up to 300 mg. About a month and a half ago, I took 450 mg of tramadol and felt really awesome (even better than I'd sometimes felt on codeine). Really, tramadol is a strange drug, it always depends on people. One terrible side effect though: it left me feeling like shit for 48 hours after intake.
 
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