is it hard to IV?

[littlechino]

It's not hard to IV. You can be taught to do it in the first go if instructed properly. Everybody's warned you of the dangers already, so I'll give you a few pieces of advice. If your life goes down the wrong road like it has for me and many others, you have only yourself and your addiction to blame.

You can bang about ten units (1 unit = 1/100th of a cc) of air without any harm done to you. Don't push your luck though.

Your veins are deeper than they appear, especially when you're using a tourniquet. Don't poke through though. Pull back on the plunger as you enter the skin so you create a vacuum that will bring in blood the moment you register.

Practice keeping your hand steady while pulling and pushing on the plunger before you break any skin.

I used to tell myself I could never see myself shooting up to get high. Even when I started snorting dope, I told myself that. I, too, started shooting up to be cost-efficient. At one point, I was studying at a top university, and a year later, all of my student loans went up my veins while I laid in an ER room from withdrawals.

 

[amblerg]

its easy. especially when u got the correct needles and all and it becomes esay as pie. 30g 5/16inch 1cc BD, tell your pharmacist you need a ten pack
dont get into shooting heroin or cocaine though. i was told this many times, thought i would be stronger than the others, had to learn for myself the hard way.

 

[LivingOnValium]

Getting into IVing is not hard at all, actually it's too easy.

Stopping doing drugs intravenously is almost impossible.

Also learning how to IV isn't hard and doesn't take long.

 

[paranoid android]

Stopping doing drugs intravenously is almost impossible.

Almost maybe but certainly not impossible. I havent touched a needle in over a month which of late has been a record for me. I don't intend on going back to IV use but shit happens and likely as not i could be back to it again in fuck all amount of time.

With the IV habit though you not only have the drugs to content with you also have the habit of the needle itself. I would backwash (pull back on the plunger to draw in blood after i had injected my shot) some of my shots even though it is a totally unnecassary practice and only fucks your veins up more. I did it because i just loved watching stuff in the barell of that syringe go into my veins. I went from a guy who was scared shitless of needles to a guy who had a needle fixation very quickly many would say . When i quit i had to toss any unused needles in the house because i was afraid that id shoot straight up clonidine in desperation. Not that i havent put clonidine in with my shots before 8) but this seemed like being ultra desperate.

 

[pillpopper187]

That's a rather bad reason to go down the IV route, in my opinion. It's pretty much a one-way street - once you IV a drug no other ROA comes close and you tend to end up shooting anything and everything. I started IVing 15 years ago and now have maybe two or three usable veins left - even hospitals can't get a vein up on me now - yet I still can't stop shooting stuff. It's easy to do but there's no going back to "lesser" methods for most folks, in my experience.

this is 100% true

i started a year ago and can't stop

why take 15mg of morphine by mouth when i can iv it and get all of the 15MG

 

[pillpopper187]

i get a small rush just from iving salin solotion because my mind is tricked and while there is nothing in the shot, it gives you relief. the brain associates pleasure with the injection, and after awhile you can inject h20 and feel a little rush

 

[LivingOnValium]

I would backwash (pull back on the plunger to draw in blood after i had injected my shot) some of my shots even though it is a totally unnecassary practice and only fucks your veins up more. I did it because i just loved watching stuff in the barell of that syringe go into my veins.

I do backwashes as well. Wathcing the blood flowing into the syringe gets me of in twisted way..

 

[XxVeinityFaiirxX]

xxveinityfaiirxx

listen i'll do a hard drug every few months. always have and never had a problem. say i decide to start IVing it, its not like i'm automatically going to start doing it more. you don't know that.

Yeah you know what, do whatever you want to do. Im sorry but only you know you. And I mean, I IV... yes it is daily (they're right about that) but hey, if u have more willpower than I..more power to ya. Anyway, my point is I do it and I ReALLY love it. No regrets. Im actually quite thankful (as sick as that may sound) that I know how, that I CAN feel that.. uh. GReAT.

Anyway. Just be prepared. For all the pleasure there's all the pain.

 

[XxVeinityFaiirxX]

xxveinityfaiirxx

I do backwashes as well. Wathcing the blood flowing into the syringe gets me of in twisted way..

Oh man, oh fuck, me too.
God I love you.

 

[Korn3x]

i get a small rush just from iving salin solotion because my mind is tricked and while there is nothing in the shot, it gives you relief. the brain associates pleasure with the injection, and after awhile you can inject h20 and feel a little rush

my first practice shot that i did b4 i shot dilaudid for the first time was a syringe full of distilled water. it did give me a rush, and i could swear that i could feel the water travel up to my brain lol.

then i shot the dilaudid and i was like

I do backwashes as well. Wathcing the blood flowing into the syringe gets me of in twisted way..

i too love seeing the worm creep its way into the syringe, and then i love it when you push the plunger in and it disappears back inside you. however i dont do unnecessary backwashes after the initial one. i have really good veins and i wanna keep them that way.

 

[psychomimetic]

I would recomend not choosing coke as your first IV drug. Something with a longer duration, less severe crash and less tendency to make you go empty your bank account would be good.

So yeah, if you're going to IV then good luck, but I'd recomend not choosing coke for your first time.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

^QFT.


Congrats, mr android

 

[Jabberwocky]

^I think you're confusing objective safety with subjective safety. IV habits destroy people's lives quickly; it's not something to fuck around with. IMHO if you go into it with your cocky attitude, you WILL get burned . We just don't need you coming back in a year posting in TDS asking for help.

qft, see it happen all too often here with bluelighters. some of us have been through it or are going through it and see it on here through regular posters. we're not trying to scare you into anything, we're all statistics here.

Yeah when i first started IVing dilaudid i thought id save alot of stuff because of the higher bioavailability when IVed. I was so fucking wrong there

it's the "all or nothing" approach for me as well

I do backwashes as well. Wathcing the blood flowing into the syringe gets me of in twisted way..

Oh man, oh fuck, me too.
God I love you.

do not "jerk off". as much fun as it may look it's going to be terrible for your veins. please look after veins, don't treat them like a dart board.

 

[artaxerxes]

^I think you're confusing objective safety with subjective safety. IV habits destroy people's lives quickly; it's not something to fuck around with. IMHO if you go into it with your cocky attitude, you WILL get burned . We just don't need you coming back in a year posting in TDS asking for help.

as long as you IV correctly its safe newb.

^1. I know how easy it is to IV. But to quote you right up above, it is not "safe" within any stretch of the imagination. Been there for many years, and seen the decline that precedes the death of many friends. MANY, MANY people I loved. And we don't need any more members to add to the shrine.

I'll give you a pass on the newb. You're right, I AM a BL newb, but compare our post counts. (But w/e. It's petty to get in to that shit. And now I just did. Bad on me.)

My point is that you're receiving intelligent responses that include words of advice on IV'ing and words of warning from very experienced users. And you've been aggressively refuting and discounting them.

Yet you bemoan the fact that your E-taking frends won't listen to your experienced advice and warnings. I tried to give you an analogy that would hopefully help you to start to accept the advice that you're being given. And I clearly stated that in the main part of my post you ignored.

Yes, the physical process of IVing is not that difficult, but dealing with the life that comes along with IVing is moves beyond difficult into the desperately (and sometimes inescapably) tragic. I was trying to help you.

Please listen to these guys who have a lot of experience and who know the score. They're trying to save you, someone they don't know form a rat's ass, from beginning the descent into hell. Please just give their input a little credence. This is the last I'll post in this thread.

If you're dead-set on doing it, you'll do it. In which case, go for it but be safe.

 

[ZzZzZ]

I'm saving IV for old age. I feel no reason to go to a land where no other pleasure can beat the feeling of IV use. I've gotten multiple IV drips of benzos and opiates administered by medical professionals and I have already fantasized of just walking around all the time with a drip in my arm.

 

[Aok]

listen i'll do a hard drug every few months. always have and never had a problem. say i decide to start IVing it, its not like i'm automatically going to start doing it more. you don't know that.

You're right, know one knows yourself better than you.
But I know addicts. They are my two oldest sons. Not something a mom goes around bragging about.
They are both fighting for their lives to stay clean, with NOTHING to show for the years they used.

One shot up and permanantly tatooed his arms, hands, etc. by half-ass sterilizing the needle with a lighter. The other "only" snorted.

If you have a mom, or anyone that loves you, find some other way to get your kicks.

If you start shooting, you should say your goodbye's now.

 

[mrsmokeweed]

just dont iv ive never done it but seen how it can springboard casual drug user to dopefiend and its a damn shame

 

[hyroller]

It's pretty much a one-way street - once you IV a drug no other ROA comes close and you tend to end up shooting anything and everything.

Not true. I've been a part-time/casual IVer for 2 years - never been tempted to make it any more frequent...

 

[phatass]

I Iv'ed for about a year, since i have never IV'ed (partly coz i fucked up most of my veins using loprazolam, promethaine and morphine together...)... it takes some getting used to, remember to draw back blood to make sure you're in the vein, have a stable hand, a micron filter, sterile water... and you're ready to go...

or just google "How to IV guide" and i'm sure you'll find all the info you need

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Not true. I've been a part-time/casual IVer for 2 years - never been tempted to make it any more frequent...

It's still true what he's saying. You're just one of the exceptions. And just because you've been doing so for two years doesn't mean it can't happen to you .