coelophysis
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lol i see right through it.. you're nothing without the lounge..
number saved tho
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Is Bluelight dying ?
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What a beautifully written post.
I get that and yeh, I'll admit there's comedy value there
just kiddin' Dopey....Droppersneck
Bluelighter
Droopy what are you gonna do without the lounge for a month
btw was that your text of the hipster laisu beer? New phone who dis sorry
Really, shit posting can be done anywhere, and there are some interesting cats in eaad. I also like ce&p it compliments sitting on my ass, drinking beer/ watching football, quite well.
consumer
Bluelighter
Dont leave bro. You are my favourite poster. If you do send me your email. If you dont read this can someone who communicates with SHM this message.
Seconded.
And will do (let me know of shm doesn't reply).
I assume you're still using the same email, consumer?
This thread has digressed pretty far off course from the original question - which, for the most part, i would disagree with.
I for one don't think eadd is dying - i think the NPS legislation has cut the easy access of countless new drugs down so much, that of course traffic has followed.
Folks from other subforums (such as myself) often looked at EADD, and the community here, with a great deal of envy.
It has been a thriving hub of conversation, humour, entertainment and (just a touch of) drama for years.
Made it through the rise and fall of several crappy social media platforms, and most popular internet fads which have come and gone.
You guys made it through a lot of that lousy competition - and more than your fair share of tragedy and grief too.
For that reason, as well as the brilliance of BL as a harm reduction resource generally, i feel that it will get through the current struggles, in one way or another - just as BL manages to carry on, in spite of our trollish detractors, wannabe saboteurs and individuals - or small groups - of contributors who thrive on negativity and division.
We're more interesting and unique than all that; internet trolls are just another cheap, disposable - and forgettable - item in our modern plastic throwaway society.
AusDD has suffered greatly from a lack of "new" drug topics - our drug market hasn't changed a great deal in years, so the impact of the decline in message board popularity has hit fairly hard - but on the other hand, you find aussies/kiwis participate across Bluelight - most of us join in conversation anywhere that we're interested, which to me makes the site on the whole more interesting.
It also means that the people who post in AusDD have picked up lots of knowledge and information from across the forum, so when someone starts a new thread in Aus Drug Discussion, there are plenty of informed people to answer - and to have picked things up from other regional discussions (such as knowing all about the "abuse proof" polymer oxycontin formulations when they were introduced here.
Not saying that doesn't happen in EADD, for example, but i think having global HR perspectives in discussions is generally a strength rather than a weakness.
As i've probably said before, i am not big on the idea of national division; whether - though in some contexts it makes practical sense.
The HR implications of various problems (ie the fent/fent analogue epidemics in north america and parts of europe) may be localised to particular regions - but given the decreasing relevance of national borders in the drug trade (as internet drug markets have become more and more mainstream) - it helps for drug users and those involved in harm reduction programs everywhere to be aware of them.
In other words; no one is safe.
The biggest impact of social media on bluelight is - to me, at least - the sections that are most affected by that kind of competition - namely the social forums.
Our bluelight social communities are not held together in the same way social media networks like FB are. My sister is still pissed off at me for deactivating my facebook account 6 or 7 years ago. Facebook itself tried to emotionally blackmail me as i deactivated it, saying who its algorithms or whatever thought would "miss" me.
We're also inundated with trolls and various dickheads who find amusement in fucking around with the amount of compassion and acceptance bluelight offers free of charge to anyone who registers - in matters ranging from using drugs safely, quitting addictions, emotional and psychological struggles, relationship advice, political debates; all sorts of stuff.
Sadly it's the current nature of online discourse that a certain amount of people see bluelight - and specifically, i guess, the ideology behind "harm minimisation" as some kind of political statement that they deliberately tey to subvert - either that or they have problems - or maybe nothhing better to do with their time than be disruptive - which can unfortunately upset what is sometimes a delicately balanced mix of important drug safety information and social interaction.
It's a shame that such trolls and creepers (not to mention drug-seekers, drug dealers and spammers of all shapes and sizes) can affect the bluelight community so much.
For the most part, they're easy to get rid of - but of much time and effort of staff and regular contributors that could be put into improving the forum in other ways is spent dealing with silly nonsense.
It's a shame, it has to be that way - but unfortunately it is the nature of contemporary online culture.
For the most part, i think staff walk a fine line between being accused of being overzealous nazis for enforcing the rules, or being soft and letting the forum "go to shit" when people who are disruptive or attention-seeking are granted leniency.
It's a fine line, and i think we'd all like to see bluelight function in a healthy manner.
Personally i don't really think we ought to see ourselves as a facebook for drug users, as important as social sections are.
I think the vulnerability of our community/communities i referred to earlier is perfectly illustrated in the delicate balance i refer to above.
I really enjoy some of the lighthearted interactions i have with people on here, as well as the occasional intellectual debate (which are sadly getting harder and harder to come by in subforums like ce&p) but personally my priority is in helping to try to offer (and enable others to offer) harm reduction information to people that need it.
Social interaction is an important thing for many marginalised people - especially of the sort that frequent drug HR discussion boards like bluelight - and i've made some great friends across the world on here (quite a few of whom i've had good times with IRL too) - but so long as we are still helping to spread really important HR messages, and help save lives, i don't get too saddened by the changing ways bluelight is utilised.
Social sections are only as good as the people that use them, and i miss the good people that don't post so much any more, more than i do the busy subforums themselves.
Internet communities are pretty ephemeral - but that doesn't mean that once one part has died down a bit, the whole thing is doomed. It just means (to me) that things are changing.
And i refuse to believe that change is always a bad thing
...i've never been known to be a cautious optimist - but from a broad perspective, i try to be as realistic as possible.
And from where i see things, bluelight is not in such a bad state.
A greater influx of 'good people' and a few less angry trolls would be a pleasant change, but you catch more solid new bluelighters with good acid than with mexedrone.
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consumer
Bluelighter
Hey. Dont diss the finest inseminated Turkmenistan mexedrone till you've tried it. 50 cents a kilo.
zephyr
Ex-Bluelighter
Be the canesten!
Wenlock
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Vurtual
Bluelighter
Thirded.
I've not been posting as much recently due to the ebbs and flows of life patterns and what have you, and i think the NPS thing was always going to signal the end of a certain phase of what this subforum was about (and part of what i used it for). Just like it's use was different before the meph boom (apparently...). But these things are organic (and you could say dialectical (crowbar that in for SHM if he's reading
)), and the forum will find a new purpose which motivates a new flow out of the material of todays ebb - or it'll die (just as organically); i think the soil of bluelight (and EADD) is rich enough (we are that soil) that i'd say it's likely that something else interesting will grow given adequate stimulus. And just like i say when people tell me things like 'Corbyn is unelectable' (i wedged that in there for SHM too ), it's us collectively that ultimately determine how these things will happen. While just as in politics, it's very difficult to knowingly control the direction of such a complex network, so the best bet is just to have good intentions do what you will and see what happens. (bit cosmic for the subject of internet forums maybe...)
Bye m9
I think that 'social' sites like this can become so much of an integral part of daily lives it can be pretty hard to not let some of the issues get to you. I know it's just the internet but this place can feel like sitting with your friends at times 'digital family' and all that. It is sad to see people leave the place simply because of a disagreement with one or two people or aspects of the site - you certainly wouldn't stop going to your favorite bar because you feel out with one person of your social group.
Sadie
Bluelight Crew
Shm is one of my favourite people. He says what he's thinking and he means it. He's intelligent, compassionate and passionate. BL isn't the same if he's not here.
You may not want to hear it but if you really want someone to tell you the truth he'll tell you. He's got a good head on his shoulders. Controversial, sometimes. Confident in his convictions, always. I have a lot of respect for this man. And I very much hope he returns.
You may not want to hear it but if you really want someone to tell you the truth he'll tell you. He's got a good head on his shoulders. Controversial, sometimes. Confident in his convictions, always. I have a lot of respect for this man. And I very much hope he returns.
consumer
Bluelighter
Same. SHM is a solid dude. Total respect from him. I hope he comes back and FUBAR who must be really having some issues after upgrading to giant pumpkins.Shm is one of my favourite people. He says what he's thinking and he means it. He's intelligent, compassionate and passionate. BL isn't the same if he's not here.
You may not want to hear it but if you really want someone to tell you the truth he'll tell you. He's got a good head on his shoulders. Controversial, sometimes. Confident in his convictions, always. I have a lot of respect for this man. And I very much hope he returns.
Sadie
Bluelight Crew
Don't fuck with the pumpkins. They're a sacred squash!!!;-)
Droppersneck
Bluelighter
SHM is kind of a turd, BUT I will say I appreciated his conviction in CE&P. If life is better off the board for him then he is better off imo
Sadie
Bluelight Crew
All of us can be " kind of a turd " most never put their neck out to stand by that word.
consumer
Bluelighter
He was only going to get satisfied by watermelons for so long. It was an inevitable evolution.Don't fuck with the pumpkins. They're a sacred squash!!!;-)
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