Perhaps but it's not due to dosage: You could easily fit 2-3 mg onto a blotter the same size and thickness of a generic acid blotter. And i've seen pretty big LSD blotters too(4x typical size.)
Basically: It doesn't really tell anything. :/
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Is "Acid" on course to have the same purity issues as "Ecstasy"?
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Perhaps but it's not due to dosage: You could easily fit 2-3 mg onto a blotter the same size and thickness of a generic acid blotter. And i've seen pretty big LSD blotters too(4x typical size.)
Basically: It doesn't really tell anything. :/
EarthBounded
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I agree but these are being laid up by peeps that are spawning in some new school methods, real fam in North America crusing with 95% laid 10x10 95ug tab white on white, that is just north america.
Seems like anyone can whip something up spawning from ergoline inserting rye. Something like that.
If it were strait L from whomever broke down the crystal I cant imagine they target a 25ug-50ug tab.
However if they break it into liquid form this can be further cut on the street with distilled water and simply laid up on water color # 14 making it cut.
My stance still stands. But I guess yes it does face a purity issue
And as far as 200ug + could be someones personal who broke it down originally that is a rare and lucky scenario.
But to respond better to the original post Yes RCs are turning something beautiful into a money thing 25i. -Snip- No price discussion please ~Jesusgreen The people selling this are most likely about the money not peace fighters
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feedmesauce
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This is not true and is a common misconception. You can fit enough NBOME on a regular sized tab to get you fucked up. I've tested countless tabs, and all have come up fake, and positive for phenelthamines, except from one single source. I know the game its so F-ing easy even kids are doing it. Its so easy to pickup NBOME in mass cheap quanities. All ya got to do is score a crystal online for VERY cheap, lay it on blotter, and make thousands of dollars.
majorigpa
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i've always been pretty blessed when it's come to psychedelic purity. i just fell in with the right crowd at the right time and know who i can trust. i'm from southern california and the bulk of my LSD came from northern california, via midwestern superlabs where it's actually synthesized. i was actually surprised to go to festivals in the midwest and come across such underwhelming LSD, since i had known it to be synthesized there. apparently the bulk of it is shipped to either coast for distribution, leaving the midwest high and dry. i came across kids taking 4-5 tabs at a time to get where they wanted to be and would subsequently feed them a single tab of my stash and change their lives.
i guess yes, there will always be purity issues, but at the same time i think there will always be a trusted few minds whom the knowledge is handed down to. the way a lot of these groups operate is kind of freaky. they're literally LSD cults of sorts. the "families" is literally what they call themselves, and they hold the chemists and the stockpile of real honest to goodness LSD, going so far as to re-release certain batches like record companies would re-release a poignant album after enough time has passed to fully appreciate it. these sorts of people will never let LSD fall into obscurity or disappear.
i guess yes, there will always be purity issues, but at the same time i think there will always be a trusted few minds whom the knowledge is handed down to. the way a lot of these groups operate is kind of freaky. they're literally LSD cults of sorts. the "families" is literally what they call themselves, and they hold the chemists and the stockpile of real honest to goodness LSD, going so far as to re-release certain batches like record companies would re-release a poignant album after enough time has passed to fully appreciate it. these sorts of people will never let LSD fall into obscurity or disappear.
dan k
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^ the midwest if far from high and dry.
i have had consistency since 2005 of very nice paper. usually WoW.
but it is imported form the west so if its being made around here they arnt selling it to people around here thats for sure.
i have had consistency since 2005 of very nice paper. usually WoW.
but it is imported form the west so if its being made around here they arnt selling it to people around here thats for sure.
majorigpa
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the folks i knew of made it in the midwest (lots of open space, low density, "last place they'd look" sort of environment) and distributed out of northern california to the entire west coast. i always assumed it was a "don't shit where you eat" sort of mentality that kept it out of the middle of the country, or maybe i just met the wrong midwesterners. i guess the same mentality would be true of dose synthesized out west, ship it to the middle of the country... who really knows, this is all just information i gleaned over years of informal observation and eavesdropping...
PandaGun
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In the early 1980's, according to a member of my family, she tested a fair few tabs of LSD in the labs at university. (London bought and tested and from a variety of dealers).
She found that the MAJORITY of the tabs were not LSD at all and in fact were as she would call them "Methylated-Amphetamine". I talked to her about it and she said "Not crystal meth, but amphetamines that affected some Serotonin receptors to mimic the trippyness of LSD. And in fact were not LSD at all in both the effects and simple lab tests." She never cared for what the exact chemical make up for them was but did tell me that to the best of her knowledge it may still be the same in this day and age.
She also said that the effects were extremely weak and did not at all resemble 'Tripping'. So does anyone else using and/or testing around that time have the same experience?
She found that the MAJORITY of the tabs were not LSD at all and in fact were as she would call them "Methylated-Amphetamine". I talked to her about it and she said "Not crystal meth, but amphetamines that affected some Serotonin receptors to mimic the trippyness of LSD. And in fact were not LSD at all in both the effects and simple lab tests." She never cared for what the exact chemical make up for them was but did tell me that to the best of her knowledge it may still be the same in this day and age.
She also said that the effects were extremely weak and did not at all resemble 'Tripping'. So does anyone else using and/or testing around that time have the same experience?
dan k
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sounds like dob^^
everything i have tested around my area that was being sold as lsd in the last 2 years has tested positive for lsd.
everything except for one sample that i have tested at music festivals has tested positive for 25X-nbome.
everything i have tested around my area that was being sold as lsd in the last 2 years has tested positive for lsd.
everything except for one sample that i have tested at music festivals has tested positive for 25X-nbome.
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PandaGun
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^I find it more interesting that although what she did cannot accurately describe every blotter you could have got your hands on at that time, it was still extensive enough to show that this may have been happening for longer than imagined and it does come down to buyer-supplier trust.
(London - England) Not Ontario. Just in case there is any confusion.
(London - England) Not Ontario. Just in case there is any confusion.
dan k
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^ dob, doc and dom has been passed off as lsd since the 60s.
The problem with purity of L is almost surpassing that of ecstasy in my opinion. At any festival or show i go to I get offered dose at least 15 times within 2 hours. every time i ask them (just out of curiousity obviously no intention of purchase) what crystal is it? to no surprise 9 out of 10 people selling "LSD" have no idea what im talking about. to the dealers that have some knowledge and say its fluff or needlepoint i then ask, what does it taste like? and to no surprise 10 out of 10 times they say its a little bitter but thats just from the alcohol its dissolved in. The scarcity of real lsd is shocking (actually not too surprising with how few legit chemists there are), but it is shocking how many people are just munching unknown chemicals..well unknown 25x i guess. When I actually had a sheet of 25i, people who tried it were like wow this feels exactly like L!! And I just want to say thats because youve never had L... Please for the sake of clean L, if your dealer gives you a tab and it tastes like chemicals, spit it out and tell him hes selling research chemicals (which he is probably already aware of).
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What's the difference between fluff and needle point?
dan k
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^ fluff is a recipe the "family" uses and needlepoint just means its been washed thoroughly and is 90%-100% pure lsd.
in my experience.
in my experience.
PandaGun
Bluelighter
Dealers that deal lsd in small amounts including selling 'vials' and 'pieces' won't have put the the actual crystal in their mouth? And even if they have describing a taste would be pretty difficult cos it doesn't taste like oranges?
LSD in England, as far as I have seen, is only operated in liquid. Even in stupendous amounts. If I was running a lab and out comes grams of LSD I would weigh it on super scales and then dissolve it in whatever. Then add a little extra liquid to solve any evaporation or human/scale error in the process. If I sent the crystal via post or human there would be some form of trail blaze from its journey.
EarthBounded
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OP this is a really good thread, Lets just say anyone who actually knows how to cook real LSD-25 is not going to ever jeopardize the purity. It faces purity issues that all street drugs face, it can be cut.
But It is safe to say the real dilemma is RCs being passed off as L.
I would take some cut L any day as long as it was stomped on correctly with distilled water or spirits.
But It is safe to say the real dilemma is RCs being passed off as L.
I would take some cut L any day as long as it was stomped on correctly with distilled water or spirits.
Okami
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I had some LSD sourced from the open secret and that really wasn't acid that or either everything I've gotten up until now hasn't been acid. I dropped at about 8:30pm was still geting mild visuals midday the following day even after some sleep. I got a strong stimulation, inhanced tactile response and stiff neck, visuals weren't particularly prominant till I drank some alcohol (1-3 units?) then they got pretty intense and I had the cliched hallucination of seeing insects everywhere whilst I was in the bathroom. Similar mind high to acid though I thought, closer than 2-cb, aMT or 2c-t-2 fo sure. My friend who once did some meth pills said the body high and stimulation was very reminiscent of meth.
I still don't think that it would fool anyone who has done real acid at least once though, whatever it was.
I still don't think that it would fool anyone who has done real acid at least once though, whatever it was.