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Is "Acid" on course to have the same purity issues as "Ecstasy"?

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Although not exactly the same obviously, this excerpt depicts someone freaking out, breaking a lot of things, and masturbating (in front of a therapist, but still), all on real LSD. Not to say that these new RCs are safe and should be on the streets, but these kind of things can happen when the wrong people take any psychedelic.

Turns out this experience was with ALD52 that he was originally sold as LSD. Be safe out there guys. Street dealers aren't always the most honest people.
 
And ALD52 is apparently meant to be more easier going than LSD as well.
 
A dealer would have to be an idiot to pass off an NBOMe as LSD seeing as many (most?) people just chew and swallow blotters. DOx is another story.

Does anyone actually have evidence (I mean actual evidence) of an NBOMe ever being passed off as acid?


Not documented evidence but I see it done every day. Sheet after fucking sheet, they still buy it thinking its real despite the horrendous chemical taste and notecard blot, not to mention the sketchy ass ripoff dealer who does it for profit. Just by seeing him and the rest of his crowd do it has really reenforced the idea that trusted sources are key and that most street level chems are utter shit.
 
Does anyone actually have evidence (I mean actual evidence) of an NBOMe ever being passed off as acid?

here's more documented evidence
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2633

"DDL was unable to positively identify all three substances they detected in this unusual sample that had been sold as LSD in Wisconsin. Andrew, an EcstasyData contributor, identified the primary substance as 2C-C-NBOMe. The other two chemicals were somewhat less clear. The 2C-I-NBOMe could also be 2C-C-NBOMe ME. "
 
A dealer would have to be an idiot to pass off an NBOMe as LSD seeing as many (most?) people just chew and swallow blotters. DOx is another story.

Does anyone actually have evidence (I mean actual evidence) of an NBOMe ever being passed off as acid?

I know a guy that passes 25i-nbome as acid. I disaprove hugely, not too much I can do about it though.
 
Turns out this experience was with ALD52 that he was originally sold as LSD. Be safe out there guys. Street dealers aren't always the most honest people.

Do you have any reference for this? The excerpt is from the book "LSD Psychotherapy", which describes work done by Stanislav Grof in a clinical setting. They obviously were not using LSD from black market sources, and LSD was produced legally for medical purposes in Czechoslovakia around this time, so I would be very surprised if they were using a different (albeit closely related) chemical all along. Any sources you could provide for your claim would be nice.
 
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Although not exactly the same obviously, this excerpt depicts someone freaking out, breaking a lot of things, and masturbating (in front of a therapist, but still), all on real LSD. Not to say that these new RCs are safe and should be on the streets, but these kind of things can happen when the wrong people take any psychedelic.

I just read that article and it said nothing to me but how valuable these psychedelics could be in proper clinical setting. I suppose we're making progress in this regard but I'm just impatient.

Anyone claiming that you can't have a freakout on LSD is completely foolish. I have had one myself. It was temporary but I had to fight for my mind, which I reclaimed once I realised the only thing I was fighting, was my mind. It was one of the most interesting experiences I've ever had in my life.
 
My (sad) opinion: Yes. And the consequences are going to be even worse. I don't know what the LD50 of the NBOMe's is but even barring death very unpleasant things start happening to the unwary tripper who just consumed >1.5mg 25i-NBOMe...

Do you overdose if you swallow Nbome? Do you have to hold it subluingal to get any effect from it? Perhaps that explains why there arn't as many overdoses - if people are swallowing it instead of holding it under their tongue for an hour.
 
Anyone claiming that you can't have a freakout on LSD is completely foolish.

Some people can have a freakout on LSD - a very, very small minority. Probably smaller than the number of people who freakout when their girlfriend leaves them or their manager sacks them and never touch LSD.
 
Two confirmed cases of n-bomes being passed off as acid. Thats not 60 or 95 percent of the world acid market. Thats two times. It doesnt matter what stats people post either, boom festival in portugal last year is perfect example, yet people say oh thats europe, america is different. I can tell real acid from fake, and in canada all i find is real. Stength varies alot, but its always acid no matter which source i use. How can canada and the usa be so different? I don't think they are, i follow lsd on google news and some poor sould gets popped for LSD almost every day somewhere in america. You guys don't believe those are all n-bomes do you? The police even know to look for those breath drops, an acid bust is routine to them. But yet peole swear there is no acid.

Why not just sell blank hits? Its a festival, you never see the person again. Selling a blank is a year maybe in jail, selling an n-bome that kills someone is life. The people who sold N-bomes to that kid and told him it was synthetic mush are facing life because he died. Why would anyone take the risk? Life for such a small amount of money. Yes most MDMA is fake, but its pipers and BK, that isnt killing people. Its totally different. Also why arent all the people who eat 10 hits of nbome blotters ending up, i don't know, dead? Where are the bodies? Anything that kills people wont replace acid.

Someone aboved summed it up perfectly, kids now blame bad trips on RC's. I agree acid is almost mythological, this despite the very real negative side to it. The guy who was mentioned above punching his mom sounds exactly like acid to me. Hoffman almost punched his cleaning lady or neighbour on the 1st trip because he thought she was evil.

And every hit in north america that the police seize is tested by a real lab, why no scare stories from the police about their lab findings? I hear people quote the DEA microgram but they never once said they seized a fake hit of acid in an undercover buy. Every single person they busted knew they had an RC on a blotter, or they would have said otherwise. Its very tricky wording they use. They said they rarely get real LSD, thats actually true. But they don't mention that they only get samples that state crime labs cant identify.

If you sold DO anything at a dead show in the 70's or 80's you would have seen the peaceful hippy myth dispelled right quick. To suggest it was common back then tells me one thing, you werent there. I just don't agree that one two confirmed RC's means very much at all.

And BTW i disagree that netherlands is world leader in production, i think its western canada. I have zero problem getting it. Acid today is exactly the same as i got in dead show parking lot in 1990. Pretty sure i am a better judge than some kid who wasnt even born then telling me its all n-bomes.

I like the date rape drug analogy. People who go to hospital thinking they were slipped something ALWAYS have a clean blood or urine test, read wikipedias date rape drug page sometime, the whole thing is a myth, thought its widely believed. When you actually think about it, the idea you can carry a passed out women out of a bar is absurd. But people want an excuse for their own drinking too much, and date rape drugs offer that. People don't want to accept they had a bad trip either. If they want comfort it happens to almost everyone and it doesnt mean shit about you. While set and setting are important LSD can bite you, thats the nature of it. If you want something thats always the same or always positive find another drug.

The idea that thousands of dealers are passing off potentially deadly chemicals as acid is pretty silly too, i don't care how many people believe it. Look back over the last 10 years there has been hysteria about amt, bromodragonfly, dox, and all have been big panics based on fear that never materialized. N-bomes are just the newest example of people looking for explanations because this trip was diefferent than the last.
 
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yeah i have heard canada is flooded, the acid in canada thread is way more active than the usa one..

but i walked around 8 diffrent festivals last year with a ehrlich and marquis kits testing every time someone said they had L even though i didnt plan on buying any cause i was already stocked up.. but everything except two samples tested positive for nbome, one bunk, and one very low dosed lsd tab. like i said before, these kids dont even know what they are selling or anything about lsd or probably any other chem"its really good acid, you gotta do it in your nose and it hits you in 5 mins". i schooled the kid what was up and i seen him getting jumped by 4 people later that weekend.

even at all 11 stops of the furthur summer 2012 shows i only encountered white family paper twice and some super bomb cezch paper once, also from a family member.. countless times i was offered a free sample of completely bunk pieces of paper, one older guy even claiming it to be "300mics"

i never said theres no lsd in the usa and i said that i would estimate 80% of whats being sold at the mainstream american music festivals is either nbome or completely bunk.. i cant even find amt, doc or doi and i look often.
but there is no shortage of legitimate lsd here, i havnt had a problem finding any around my town for the last 4 years at all.
 
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i never said theres no lsd in the usa and i said that i would estimate 80% of whats being sold at the mainstream american music festivals is either nbome or completely bunk.. i cant even find amt, doc or doi and i look often.

So happy that aMT is abitrarily legal in the UK. It's a very worthwhile psychedelic IMO. Only psyches reliable found at festivals and events and the like are 2c-b and 2c-i, ocassionaly 2c-e. Acid here is iffy at best, though recently my mate who lives in a different city found some legit stuff completely accidentally, so it can always be found but some luck does also need to play a role.
 
Do you have any reference for this? The excerpt is from the book "LSD Psychotherapy", which describes work done by Stanislav Grof in a clinical setting. They obviously were not using LSD from black market sources, and LSD was produced legally for medical purposes in Czechoslovakia around this time, so I would be very surprised if they were using a different (albeit closely related) chemical all along. Any sources you could provide for your claim would be nice.

I'm not claiming that the excerpt was ald 52. My brothers bad reaction involving public masturbation and becoming violent was with ald52, not as i op as lsd. Goes to show other drugs are being sold as lsd.
 
It's the other way around. So much acid is fake, I would never buy acid from a street dealer, some of the dealers don't even know that their own shit is fake!
 
The nbome blotters don't often look like LSD blotters in my experience - they're usually thinner paper and smaller.
 
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LSD is definetely not the way it was back when I was growing up.. Im 30 and its def not how it was 15 years ago. I have given up on lookin for it...now just weed, x once in a while...had 2ci and 2ce and both are amazing. had dox and it fucking nasty... have grown shrooms... ive done a lot but now choose mainly just weed and liquor....rarely x cuz pills are still scarce and molly is rc's
 
A lot of people who take acid have no idea what nbome is, or how to distinguish between it and LSD.
 
Nbome blotter is typically 4 or 5x larger than acid blotted. It's really pretty easy to distinguish. Do your research before buying drugs, and dealers don't always know they have synthetic drugs themselves because they're typically about money not safety and peace of mind.
 
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