Insomniacs out there? what do you take?

[JamieTO]

if you want to sleep like a fucking baby for 12 hours without waking up, take 4mg of Xanax, 70mg of Valium, 15mg of K-pins, take them with one beer, dont take it all at once tho.

Trust me, you will sleep so good.[/QU
you must be retarded.. fucking idiot

 

[bingalpaws]

oh yeah I should prolly weigh in w/ recommendations as I'm constantly in and outta insomniac episodes.

Weaker stuff that still does the trick: (my personal approach)
melatonin (almost 1mg sublingually ~45min from when I wanna sleep)
valerian (250-500mg standardized extract - not everyone finds this useful)

Medium/stronger stuff:
xanax (roughly 0.5-2.0mg <2mg=1bar>, maybe an hour or two before I wanna sleep. Someone mentioned sublingual, I'd recommend that if you have them, I never knew they existed, and you sure as hell don't wanna hold mylan alprazolam tabs under your tongue!

very strong:
seroquel (use 10-20min before I wanna pass out, pretty much reserved for coming down off mdma/acid candyflips, or any other strong stuff like trips/rolls/speeds)


I wouldn't recommend valium or clonazepam as others have, solely for how long they're active in the body. Xanax/alprazolam will do the trick quite nicely and be mostly out by the morning, and when choosing sleeping stuff I tend to not only consider the sleep powers of it, but also how badly it would affect me the next morning. That's why I wouldn't recommend very high doses on melatonin, nor would I recommend a longer acting benzo. Temazepam seems to have good potential too but has the longer half life - unfortunately I've never seen the stuff in real life so I cannot comment on that. Diphenhydramine works quite well I've gotta say too - I've had pneumonia and have been munching benadryls (diphen+acetaminophen+phenylephrine, I think it's the cold/sinus version) and they've been knocking me out real hard, w/o much/any grogginess. I can only half recommend that though as I've been using it while sick so that's not the best scenario to gauge its efficacy.

 

[phr]

90 percent of this site is here to get high, if you don't know that by now then i feel sorry for you kid, open your eyes and next time post something worthy of a legit response.

Ummm, no. Most of the forums on the site don't even deal with drugs, at least not directly. There are drug focus forums, but the main objective is harm reduction and responsible use. This isn't a site about just getting fucked up.

 

[bingalpaws]

I think he meant 90% of usernames, not 90% of the board's subbies.

and LO-fucking-L at "open your eyes" to phrozen of all people.

 

[phr]

Whoops sorry. Context is key.


I just get pissed off if people think BL is all about getting high.

Sorry for misunderstanding.

 

[rave23]

as for the wiseguy, you forgot to say that i should take that while wearing a horse mask and cooking mushrooms like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffDPTKn7HiY

don't forget the gas mask strapped around his balls in the end.

This is some fucking disturbing shit, do not watch it if you're just smoked some good nug. Holly fucking shit this is phasing me Can someone please comfort me by telling me that is some staged pervert-porn-fetish-shit?

// oh what the fuck the ending is so fucking cracking me up right now. IT'S THRILLER!!!!

 

[klowns]

that dude should be banned seriously. giving out fucking dangerous info, then calling us pussies for calling him on it, then flaming and blatantly disregarding harm reduction. phrozen is right. bluelight IS SOLEY a harm reduction board, and a board to learn. it is not a board to recomend others the gnarliest ways to get fucked up. that is the complete opposit of harm reduction. also, dont fuckin call people "kid" or "son". it does NOT make you look badass, cool, or smart. you are in NO way above or better than anyone else.
back to the discussion-i know one other FANTASTIC remedy that hoenstly does work: GOOD kava kava. holy shit if you get good enough stuff you actualy feel all stoney and trippy while completely relaxed, numbed, euphoric , and sedated all at the same time. i now recomend a brand of sorts named "kaviar" holy fuck. the thing said 1-2 teaspoons was equal to a tradional coconut bowl of kava. i was like yeah right. but i aired on the smart side, (becasue in the past, i HAVE been floored by kava, one time i seroiusly couldnt even move i wa so fucked up) and i only took 1 teaspoon. i have never again taken above a teaspoon of that stuff. i tried to drink a 2 teaspoon prep once, but by the time i was a third of the way into it i was so fucked up i had to put it down.
kava is wonderful, and id say its anxiolitic effects are definatly on par with even strong benzos.
peace

 

[bingalpaws]

Whoops sorry. Context is key.


I just get pissed off if people think BL is all about getting high.

Sorry for misunderstanding.

BL isn't, in general, about getting high. People who come here tend to be though. We help harm reduction (like being able to say why insanely dangerous recommendations such as the one earlier in this thread), we do not allow any detailed synth discussion, we don't allow sourcing or dealing on site, etc.

 

[delphinen]

You have many options, that really depens on your wallet and willpower:

0-Get up early, work hard, and finally at night get really tired and bored watching TV from your bed until you _feel_ the sleep.
1-Melatonin. Cheap stuff, if it works on you, it could be enough.
2-Diphenhydramine. A pill or two per night, but no more, or you will get the deleriant effects. Also, it has SSRI effects, so, it is a plus, you will wake up cheerful, but be careful withdrawing from this.
3-Nonbenzos. It really worked for me, theyre very advanced (in chemical speaking) and also expensive.
4-Benzos. The Choice. Diazepam would be the most common, but tolerance grows up, you enjoy too much the effects, and got to try another benzos. Currently on 8gr Clonazepam per day. They are in the middle of cheap and expensive, so I believe its the best choice if you can manage the tolerance and addiction, which I doubt.
5-Ativan, Wellbutrin. This stuff will knock you down no matter what. Its expensive, but it WILL make you sleep, and they are the best to get out of a bad trip too. Try not to use these.
6-Dextropropoxiphen. Its an horrible opioid, but it will help you to sleep. Not cheap.

In order, I would choice:
0,3,4,2,1,6,5

Basically, it depends on your willpower and wallet.

 

[phr]

BL isn't, in general, about getting high. People who come here tend to be though. We help harm reduction (like being able to say why insanely dangerous recommendations such as the one earlier in this thread), we do not allow any detailed synth discussion, we don't allow sourcing or dealing on site, etc.

I think the longer someone keeps posting here, the more their contributions lean towards harm reduction and responsible use.

 

[rave23]

...Currently on 8gr Clonazepam per day...

That's gotta be a typo man

 

[37047734]

Temazepam is pretty similar to Trazadone in that it's great for knocking you out but it's half-life is pretty long and IME it definitely negatively affected me in the morning. I wouldn't recommend it.
Benzos are great as sleep aids(especially xanax and Klonopin, which doesn't make me groggy in the morning.) The key with benzos is to avoid using them every night. It's really easy to get yourself in a spot where you become dependent on them to get to sleep. So obviously if you get in a spot where you run out/can't find any it can make trying to sleep a thousand times more difficult.
Benadryl always worked really well for me as long as I took it and then got in bed and waited for it to set in. I think people tend to run into problems with it when they take it, then wait too long to try to sleep. That's when you get the weird Benadryl side-effects. For me that's how it worked. Smoking a bowl can work wonders too.
I'd say the best course of action is to find a non narcotic solution that works for you most the time, like a Benadryl. At the same time get yourself a little stockpile of xanax, kpins, bud, whatever works best. Use the non-narcotic whenever you can, but when you're having an especially difficult night break out the benzos/bud. That way you've got the security of having a narcotic solution on hand but can avoid dependency by using the non-narcotic most of the time.

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

temazepam is my favorite benzo and what was given to me for my insomnia.

15-30 mgs for sleep 60-75 to catch a buzz

 

[Nitrous is Nice]

5-Ativan, Wellbutrin. This stuff will knock you down no matter what. Its expensive, but it WILL make you sleep, and they are the best to get out of a bad trip too. Try not to use these.

Wellbutrin?

I took that for a year and a half. Granted, sometimes it would make me sleepy under certain circumstances, it tends to have more of a stimulating effect than a sedating effect.

Unless there's some special synergy between Ativan and Wellbutrin that I'm just not aware of.

Just seems like an odd recommendation for a sleeping aid.

 

[Jabberwocky]

valium works wonders for me, as well at temazepam.

 

[delphinen]

Wellbutrin?

I took that for a year and a half. Granted, sometimes it would make me sleepy under certain circumstances, it tends to have more of a stimulating effect than a sedating effect.

Unless there's some special synergy between Ativan and Wellbutrin that I'm just not aware of.

Just seems like an odd recommendation for a sleeping aid.

Youre not the first person to say me that. Well, Wellbutrin knocks me out in 15' no matter what I take or do. Its the same for some other people I know, and, well, its not the same for other people.
But is common knowlodge that a Wellbutrin would kill a LSD trip, so something has to be in it.

 

[Nitrous is Nice]

haha

I guess we just have different brain chemistry.

If I wanted to kill an LSD trip, I'd take a couple milligrams of clonazepam that I'm prescribed.

Of course I never really considered taking much more than say 30 or 40 mg of wellbutrin while I was tripping on LSD. I wonder what effects a full dose of wellbutrin would have had on me during the height of an acid trip. I actually used LSD to help taper myself off of wellbutrin.

 

[monstanoodle]

Well well well well Wellbutrin is based on a stimulant (nicotinic receptors??) i think.
Malt drinks are surprisingly effective at bringing on the yawns and warming me up for bed, really good if [med of choice] isn't being as effective as it should be.

 

[klowns]

yes thats fuckign nuts because wellbutrin fucking tweaks the fuck out of me in the wierdest way. its like a 2c type high. and EVERYONE else i know reports this too, as do all the reports on erowid. its actualy branded there as a anti depressant, stimulant.
you sure your thinking og the right med? haah no its cool becasue i know people that take adderall to fall asleep. wierd, but everyones chemistry is just different YMMV!!!!!

 

[klowns]

beer is awesome. for every reason. definatly helps fall asleep if you just drink a light amount. if you get drunk then youll wake up after a couple hours and not be able to sleep and youll have the spins and it SUCKS
peace