Insomniacs out there? what do you take?

[Nitrous is Nice]

thanks nitrous, i will follow your advice first as from what i ve read melatonin doesnt interfere with other medication.

No problem. Let me know how it works for you.

 

[Psychlone Jack]

yeah yeah i might have over did it on the dose a bit, but it's not like it's gonna fucking kill him or whatever you think, relax i'm not trying to kill someone, just ease their suffering.

And all joking aside, those are pussy doses, so i don't know why your getting all upset for lol, who cares anyway.

Yes, it isn't gonna kill someone. As I said, it's VERY hard to OD on benzos alone. BUT, it is not hard at all to get in a shit ton of trouble blacked out on them. BTW, as I said in my PM, I'm not an admin, I dunno where you got that idea from. But again, as I said, it is hard to OD on them but very easy to get in a shit ton of trouble on high dose benzos. This is perhaps the first time I've ever agreed with klowns, but ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS????

Yeah, I took 12+mg of clonazepam and some heroin thinking I would just have some fun and then sleep well, and lo and behold, I WAS ESCORTED HOME BY THE COPS AFTER BEING FOUND IN A DITCH. Think before you type.

 

[klowns]

hey jack-IF YOU READ HIS POST CAREFULY- he even DID mention mixing it wiht alcohol. sorry but that WILL KILL SOMEONE. he wasnt even jstu talking benzos alone. he said, take it all with beer. and he wasnt joking.
thats some FUCKED advise and COULD kill a person with a low or no tolerance EASY. jesus

 

[Toufas]

as i posted earlier, i wasnt going to pay any attention to him, nor i pmd him.
moments later i got this pm from him : "You are a COMPLETE fucking moron lol, and i hope you suffer thru withdrawls as long as possible and can't sleep for a looong long time.

or better yet, take my advice and OD, you waste of life.

PS. you are now blocked bitch."

i reported him to the mods already.
anyway, it doesnt matter, lets stay on topic and dont feed the troll.
till my order comes i will stick to ambien.
thanks for your replies so far.

 

[Psychlone Jack]

hey jack-IF YOU READ HIS POST CAREFULY- he even DID mention mixing it wiht alcohol. sorry but that WILL KILL SOMEONE. he wasnt even jstu talking benzos alone. he said, take it all with beer. and he wasnt joking.
thats some FUCKED advise and COULD kill a person with a low or no tolerance EASY. jesus

Yeah, I agree with you, admit my fault and agree with you again. I took my ridiculous dose of kpin, with alcohol, heroin, benzedrex and dxm and I'm lucky I'm not dead. Honestly, I'm ALL FOR free speech and expression of thought, but if I had MY WAY (and my way alone...) this guy would be banned for endangerment of the general public. It's fucking ridiculous, end of story.

 

[klowns]

ive had many of the same combos i used to live on dex alcohol and benzos (and weed_ never threw a benzedrex into THAT combo. damn, i AM glad you are alive jack. fuck yeah dude.
and toufas, yeah man i get ya. i knew that you werent going to take his advise and so i wont feed the troll anymroe, BUT i HAD to say something, jsut like jack felt the need to say something. what if he tells some newbie to dose like that and they are really naive and dont know shit and actualy take that much while drinking and die? i mean thats fucked shit.
but cool man. i think the ambien will most likely work for you. it just stopped working at all for me. doesnt do anythign now its like a sugar pill. it used to fuck me up so hard though id have a hard time not blacking out hahaa
peace

 

[OrneTTe]

Have you tried just getting high before you go to bed. I always had sleeping problems until I started smoking before bed at night. Now Im probably dependent on smoking so I can get to sleep but better than being dependent on benzos or something for sleep.

 

[Psychlone Jack]

Thanks klowns... (says the guy who's currently drunk as hell and on benzedrex 8) )

It's just man... I'm 21 years old, been using since I was 13, so all in all I'm relatively new to the game... but I've seen a lot of people seriously recommend crazy combos like this, but even more sadly enough, I've seen even MORE people DIE from shit like this. It's just sad, but even though it's just the internet and people I don't even know, I wanna do what I can to PREVENT needless casualties such as is capable from the ideas I've seen presented here.

 

[klowns]

its ok man ive been drunk every day for the past 4 months hahaha and i used to love eating benzies.
i would have to agree with the poster above you as well who recomended getting high to fall asleep. thats how i ALWAYS used to to it. just pot. nothing else thats all that i needed. esecialy a nice dank indica. some couchlock shit.
now i smoke weed, and take 2 mg kpin and sometimes neurontins or lyricas, and theres always some amount of alcohol thrown in there hahah.
now, im not recomending my combo to everyone. just saying thats how i fall asleep. to the op, weed GREATLY enhances teh effects of ambien, take some abmien, smoke a bowl, and lie down in about 10 minutes youlll be out like a lite! no need to add anything else to the mix
peace

 

[swilow]

Son, you asked for help, obviously you have no idea what you are talking about, in other words, your post was a waste of time.

Son???? How patronising, literally and how ironic- seeing as what you wrote.

90 percent of this site is here to get high, if you don't know that by now then i feel sorry for you kid, open your eyes and next time post something worthy of a legit response.

Funny that you seem incapable of doing that yourself- posting something worthy. Oh well.

ps. To my knowledge the site itself never gets high, its quit man. Have some respect.

 

[Psychlone Jack]

Haha I hear ya. I used to smoke at LEAST a 1/4 ounce of pot a day at my height, so needless to say it was a necessity for me to sleep. I used to swear by the shit. Even still, whenever I go to bed stoned I go out like a light, but that's like once a month and I only smoke like 1 - 8 times a month now, usually significantly less than 8. Maybe even less. No stranger to clonazepam though. That always puts me out, whenever I take a reasonable dose, but if I take more than 5mg it's anyone's guess who will find me where in a few hours. Never tried neurontin or lyrica although I'd like to try both, so no input on those really.

Like I said though, when I wasn't ALWAYS stoned, like 24/7/365 I could always count on weed to put me out. It's definitely a matter of control or pacing or whatever though. Once you get to a certain point with the ganj it doesn't do anything!

 

[Nitrous is Nice]

*This post was intended for another thread. That being said, I'll leave it here as well*

I've always suspected that a world without coffee might look very different, and for the better...

"Common knowledge & widely abused scare propaganda": Marijuana is a gateway drug.

But what about this theory...

Caffeine is a gateway drug that leads to a lifestyle of psychological addiction to stimulants & more!

^ I'd argue that the second "gateway" statement above is just as, if not more true, than the first. ^


1. Kids drink sodas, become addicted to the rush of caffeine at a very young age.
2a. Older kids begin drinking coffee for its higher caffeine content.
2b. Older kids begin drinking energy drinks to get that boost they need for whatever. <-- (new trend that is like the fast track version of a normal coffee addiction, also marketed towards kids down through the high school levels)
3. Imminent anxiety, strong tolerance for caffeine, general state of being more scatterbrained
4. ADD/ADHD!!! (Big grin from pharm companies)
5. Solution: Drugs that "cure" ADD/ADHD!
6. Adderall/Ritalin being prescribed younger and younger
7. Tolerance quickly builds
8. What now? Cocaine? Methamphetamine?
(also note by now several other psychological problems have bloomed in result to increasing level of hypertension/overstimulation/anxiety.... cure? Benzos! Anti-depressants!)
9. Parents wondering what happened to their happy, youthful children and the days they spent drinking mountain dew hanging out with their friends and playing video games.
10. The government knows what happened! MARIJUANA!
11. Nearly every measure possible is taken to make psychedelics (which happen to have fairly good success in breaking addictions) impossible to purchase, possess, and consume.
12. Back to the generation of the stimulant craving, confused ADD'ers
13. Pharm companies: "Oh we have just what you need to get your brain chemicals back to normal"
14. Government and Pharmaceutical companies hold hands and embrace in euphoric laughter as billions of dollars rain down upon their heads.
15. Schools: Look what happens to drug addicts. Don't smoke pot! Say no to drugs. Feel free to use the vending machine in the cafeteria to buy a soda to quench your youthful thirst.

 

[RJW]

I alternate between xanax, ambien, and dalmane, and, rarely, trazadone. i take someting every night to sleep. i hate laying there for an hour waiting to fall asleep. i want to be out 15 mins after i am in the bed.

 

[bingalpaws]

And all joking aside, those are pussy doses, so i don't know why your getting all upset for lol, who cares anyway.

lol
that was horrible advice, regardless of how manly you may think it is.

(also, when on the discussion of proper sleeping chemicals, it's not even applicable to demean someone's lower dosages. If I took, say, 1.5mg alprazolam to fall asleep - that's not because i'm a 'pussy' as you'd like to believe, but rather because I wouldn't waste more pills to put me to sleep than needed - why the fuck would I waste pills in that manner? They won't put me to sleep any better, although the next day I'll be more tired than I should've been, and have less benzos left over. Given the kinda person you appear to be, I'm surprised you don't understand and employ that rationale yourself)

 

[bingalpaws]

weak people should be filtered from this planet.

coming from someone who's got multiple threads on potential dangers of mixing 2 varieties of opiate pain pills.. 8)

 

[brutus]

When I had insomnia last year, I tried taking every kind of sleeping pill imaginable because I was only getting maybe 2 hours of sleep a night. Restoril was about the only way I could get to sleep. It seemed like the more drugs I used, the less I could sleep. I don't have a problem sleeping now that I'm sober though.

 

[klowns]

thats funny temazepam never did a THING to help me sleep, or get me high for that matter. halcion and versed are the only benzos capable of knocking me out
peace
oh by the way though i used to LVOE dalmane. that shit works wonders, its a bit like klonopin

 

[artaxerxes]

Doxylamine succinate doesn't work for me. If I take it, I have to wait a couple of hours to go to sleep then I wake up periodically during the night. Feh. Plus, in my experience, it has a nasty hangover.

I take a cocktail: 2-2.5mg mg Xanax, 50-100mg seroquel and sometimes 10mg zolpidem. I just added the seroquel last year and I love it. It puts me out like a light and I don't get any hangover with it. (Lunesta now is another matter. Fairly bad hangover and leaves a fucking nasty-ass taste in your mouth for half the next day. wtf is in that shit?)

I have been taking Xanax for sleep for the last 6-7 years. I know, 2mg seems like a ridiculously low dose, but it works well for me (I'm 5'4" 115lbs). I've found that a low dose of xanax is preferable because it keeps my tolerance low enough to get anti-anxiety effects from popping them during the day.

The seroquel knocks me out and, in combination with the Xanax, keeps me asleep through the night. I also do opiates daily so that adds to the nighty-night quotient, but when I'm off the opes, it works just the same, I just boost the dosages for a week or two (or three) then go back to the regular dose.

WAY back in the day I used to use diphenhydramine and melatonin: so-so. The melatonin's not bad really.

Tylenol PM is diphenhydramine with some liver-killer added to boost the liver transplant market. Fucking tylenol. What kind of demonic deal went down with the makers of tylenol and all the pharm companies to fuck up our opiates with a pain reliever that does nothing but eat liver? In the 80s I'd get Percodan for tooth-extraction, etc. I far prefer the aspirin over acetaminophen, plus the CWE is far easier/quicker with Percodan than with Percocet. 0.02¢

 

[rave23]

Let me express something, a feeling i got when i looked at the first page of this thread:

FOR FUCK'S SAKE PEOPLE. You do not recommend someone to knock himself out with a damn handful of benzos and a beer without knowing his exact history and tolerance. That could have easily killed him. And oh my god, all the bickering going on... Jesus christ!

All of you guys need to take a benzo or two and relax okay? My god, you guys are disturbing my tranquility. So would you all shake hands now, give each other hugs and make up? There is absolutely no need for hostility or any kind of aggression. Now i am allowed to yell at all of you of course, because i am mellow at heart and not hostile in any way. Love you all guys

Best way to put me to sleep is smoking a joint, eating a couple of twinkies and going to bed! Boom, i'm out, just like that! That actually worked better than Soma or Ambien

 

[stirfry]

my recommendation is to take 25-50mg of diphenhydramine, and if you don't get sleepy enough in an hour, take 1mg sublingual alprazolam.

also, i have found quetiapine (seroquel), tazodone and cyclobenzeprine to be extremely sedating, but these cause unpleasant hangovers IMO.

zolpidem never really worked well as a sleep aide for me, but i do find it pretty recreational.