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Harm Reduction Injection Complications FAQ and Mega Thread

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possibly some uncoverted morphine in the end product could be the result of the excessive histamine release, or the dope has started to degrade. maybe you just experienced an unusual histamine release. or as you said you've shot too much initially for your body to handle.

did you leave your shots prepped in the syringe for an excessive amount of time? that would have caused the hydrolisis from heroin to morphine.

personally i love the histamine release and it's one of the main reasons i IV morphine. it's a little uncomfortable when your balls are red raw for a moment though :|

merging into IV complications thread
 
How long is considered "too long" to keep using the same vein? I found one and it works well, but I'm new to injecting and not very ambidextrous (and drugs is expensive!), so I don't want to risk missing a shot by using my left hand to hit the same vein in my right arm, but I also don't want to fuck up this vein. I know I can use other veins in the left arm, but I'm just wondering when it is a good idea to switch to a new vein. I suppose I could make a shot of saline and practice with my left hand, but that doesn't seem too appealing.
 
How long is considered "too long" to keep using the same vein? I found one and it works well, but I'm new to injecting and not very ambidextrous (and drugs is expensive!), so I don't want to risk missing a shot by using my left hand to hit the same vein in my right arm, but I also don't want to fuck up this vein. I know I can use other veins in the left arm, but I'm just wondering when it is a good idea to switch to a new vein. I suppose I could make a shot of saline and practice with my left hand, but that doesn't seem too appealing.

it's dependent on a few things like how often you're using the vein (numerous times daily vs a couple times a week, etc), which vein you're using (the bicep vein is big and sturdy compared to veins in the hand that are smaller and finer), technique (missing partial shots vs clean shots) and gauge size.

you yourself are going to know best when you need to change spots from the physical appearance (bruising, scar tissue, inflammation, colour of skin etc) of the area you've been using, so it's also going differ from user to user.

as a rule (and example for all veins) i always like to start as low down the bicep vein (in the crook of my elbow) and work my way back up the vein towards my shoulder, giving sufficient space between each insertion as well. you don't want to punch in right next to each other, 5mm+ or so distance between has always worked for me. so if you're missing partial shots it's safer (still not a great idea, best to use a new vein) to move further up the vein as to avoid shooting through the area which has been damaged.

while there's no rule of how many time you should use a spot over and over, it is best practice to rotate spots as often as possible, most especially if you're injecting multiple times a day, everyday. if you're only using a few times a week then i see no problem in using the same vein, around the same area, as long as your technique is fine and the spot is given time to heal properly.

if you're going to be IVing on a regular basis it's probably a good idea you get comfortable with using other veins or switching right handed to left handed.

which vein are you using at the moment?
 
Thanks :)

Right now the big vein in the crook of my elbow is my vein of choice (had someone with experience pick and shoot that one). The shots are pretty clean-- think I had a partial miss with coke last night as that spot it a tiny bit sore and I left the tourniquet on :|. I don't IV frequently ATM, no more than once a day and not everyday, but let's say I am shooting twice a day and daily (hopefully I won't, but it would be good to know). And the needle gauge is 31.
 
Thanks for the reply's that helped me out. There must be morphine in the BTH or unconverted morphine in the end product. Can anything be done in the cooking process to change? Its not the worst thing in the world just a little uncomfortable but I can live with it. I have never OD so wanted to make sure that wasn't going on for doing too much although the feeling is not as intense when I do a little less. Also I dont leave the loaded syringe for long at all. Thanks again for the help.
 
Morphine and its Diacteylated brother are so similar that you won't easily be able to separate them. Maybe take an anti-histamine before dosing?
 
Thanks :)

Right now the big vein in the crook of my elbow is my vein of choice (had someone with experience pick and shoot that one). The shots are pretty clean-- think I had a partial miss with coke last night as that spot it a tiny bit sore and I left the tourniquet on :|. I don't IV frequently ATM, no more than once a day and not everyday, but let's say I am shooting twice a day and daily (hopefully I won't, but it would be good to know). And the needle gauge is 31.

twice daily (and this is assuming perfect IV's each time) you would(should) be ok using the same spot (obviously rotating up and down the vein) for a short while before any physical signs of scar tissue(redened skin) showed up and you needed to rotate to a new spot. realistically you're not going to end up exhausting the area too quickly if you're doing everything right. still, i can't stress rotating sites enough even if you aren't using the area very often:)

Thanks for the reply's that helped me out. There must be morphine in the BTH or unconverted morphine in the end product. Can anything be done in the cooking process to change? Its not the worst thing in the world just a little uncomfortable but I can live with it. I have never OD so wanted to make sure that wasn't going on for doing too much although the feeling is not as intense when I do a little less. Also I dont leave the loaded syringe for long at all. Thanks again for the help.

try popping an anti-histamine before shooting it next time. we still don't know whether it's just your body reacting due to the histamine release or if it is shitty quality heroin, so using a different (hopefully better and cleaner) batch of heroin would be a way to eliminate one or the other.

if you're still experiencing it then i'd either throw the shit out because you don't like it or start using smaller doses to avoid it being so uncomfortable.

has anyone else using the same heroin been experiencing this?
 
bad heroin reaction, swollen face, cottons.

so this is the third time this has happened to me. the first two times was with heroin, this last time was with a cotton shot. (i know. i was desperate.)
anyways, cook up shot yada yada, filter an extra few times because of the cottons.

shoot up.

rush hits, not like a regular rush. this feels bad. like a heat wave rising through my neck into my face, and as soon as it hits my face my entire face starts to swell. i feel disconnected from the back of my brain. breathing is hard, it feels like my chest and lungs are swollen. this only lasts for a few minutes though, and it is terrible. then the swelling subsides but the swelling was so intense that i can feel my individual pores and they feel like hives even after the swelling goes down. then i have a slight headache afterwards, in the back of my head.

has this ever happened to anyone before?? let me know. it was scary. at first when it happened in my arm i thought i had hit an artery, but i know that this one was a vein and it's one that i have hit numerous times.


bahh.
 
its been maybe 10 minutes and now i am super groggy and tired and sleepy, and the back of my head still aches.
 
points to a dirty shot, pretty much how i've felt from one in the past except for the swelling part (probably because i had a dirty hit of oxycodone). did you miss any of the shot, which would partly explain the swelling?

avoid the cotton shots like the plague, hopefully you learnt from your mistake.

merging into IV thread
 
no miss at all, perfectly hit. i hit in my hand, so even if i did miss, i don't think it wouldn't explain the swelling in my face, chest and throat because it would just swell at the miss site. i mean im positive it was a dirty shot.... but i don't know where the swelling comes from! which is the scary part. i can't explain the rush either... i guess it wouldn't really be called a rush, i would compare it to the feeling of having all the blood sucked out of your body towards your head. hummm..
 
i've never heard of anyone complaining of a swollen face, etc because of a dirty hit before though that's not to say it's not possible nor likely to happen. perhaps its you bodies reaction of fighting off the dirty hit.

no need to try and explain the "rush", we (who've experienced a dirty hit) know the feeling. no amount of dope is going to fight it off either.
 
Alright a question,
How do one know exactly when a vein is dead and unusable ?

Is it when its just gone, u feel nothing where it used to be?
Or when?
 
Burning sensation from shooting up?

I have been IV'ing H for over a year, snorted it for about a year or two on and off before that. Recently i have been getting a !horrible! burning sensation that travels DOWN my arm to my hand immediately after i drop the plunger. The burning is much worse than the burn when you miss a shoot. I also break out in a red/white rash after wards. I have switched up the H i have been using and still got the burning, i have tried different veins and it's all the same. I know i am not missing, and i feel like the burn is way too much to be an antihistimine reaction. I really just want to know if anyone has ever had this happen to them? Like i said, i know i am not missing. And the burn is unlike any burn i have felt from dope, also can't be the dope since this has happened with H from three different people. Have i just fucked my veins over? I am going to go to the hospital and explain everything, but just thought i would check to see if anyone has experienced this before. Thanks in advance. Also, i do not get that big of a rush when this happens, but i may just not notice it because the burning has become so painful. I am high though. Any input is appreciated. I stopped shooting up for a week or so, tried to today, and got the burn again. I guess this could be a good thing since it has pushed me away from the needle however, and have been snorting bags again.
 
You're switching veins or you're switching arteries? I've gotten shots like that before where it burned and itched (and I didn't miss I would get a rush and just no) but never traveled all the way down my arm. However I have seen people hit arteries and its exactly as you described. It seems unlikely that you keep hitting arteries, but that is exactly what happens when you do.
 
You're switching veins or you're switching arteries? I've gotten shots like that before where it burned and itched (and I didn't miss I would get a rush and just no) but never traveled all the way down my arm. However I have seen people hit arteries and its exactly as you described. It seems unlikely that you keep hitting arteries, but that is exactly what happens when you do.

thats what i thought, but i have switched up and used veins were this has never happened in the past with those veins. I guess it could be arteries i'm hitting, but i have heard you won't draw blood if you hit an artery. Is this true? Do you know?
 
You still draw blood when you register in an artery. The blood will be more forceful coming into the syringe (and may splatter out IIRC) and I think it is very light (either that or very dark, can't remember).
This should be in the IV Complications mega though.
 
sorry if it is in the wrong thread, kinda new around here. Thanks for all the input, now that you bring it up, the blood that is coming in the rig is very light compared to the normal dark red blood i get when i hit a vein and register.
 
dark and red go ahead light and pink stop and think! lol

You should do some exploring with an empty rig ya know to find a couple veins that you KNOW are veins. Maybe look online for a map of veins or something. I'm pretty sure shooting into your artery is not good for you at all.
 
^good advice. I still think i am gonna go get this checked out. I have never had anything like this happen to me before when IV'ing. Thanks for the input and advice again guys. This is a very useful place, and a great way to spread drug awareness.
 
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