Harm Reduction Injection Complications FAQ and Mega Thread

[DeLee]

Hey all.
I am wondering when a vein is truly dead.
If i can dig into a vein and draw blood is it fully working then?
My guess would be yes, otherwise there wouldnt be any blood correct? And the vein 100% works to get high of.

When is a vein totally dead? When its no longer there, no traces of it?

 

[chemanthonys69]

HELP Need advice on missed shot and skin popped

Swim accidentally missed and ended up skin popping a ms contin 60mg Morphine sulfate tab....... Should he be worried about abscessing? I have plenty of antibiotics. There are what looks to be small bubbles of fluid near where he missed. This is the first time he's missed in a long time and hes pissed and worried.. If anyone has any advise he'd appreciate it.. BESIDES don't bang pills. He triple filtered it to insure as little wax as possible was in the shot. Fuck fuckedy fuck fuck fuck......
Really don't know where to get any micron filters been looing all around town but GA is a communist state when it comes to needles and such, we don't even have needle exchanges within a hundred miles of where i live.. just happen to know someone who is diabetic and scam um by bringin an empty bottle of insulin and making shit up to get my way LOL

 

[monstanoodle]

1st thing - No use of the term "SWIM". It's not necessary here. If it isn't you then just say "my friend".

2nd - If you're worried then get yerself to a Doctor or the ER. We can't diagnose you here. None of us are professionals.

 

[chemanthonys69]

Ya I know theres nothing to speak of yet but I guess ill just wait it out. Im not that worried Ive skin popped before just never a pill thats why I just wanted some opinions thanks

 

[Bob Loblaw]

injections complication thread might have something

 

[jackie jones]

If the spot does not dissipate after a few hours or gets worse, go to the hospital.

gpzservices.com for micron filters.

 

[clara]

You can buy spikes in GA without a script, they are like 3$ for 10.I would keep an eye on it. Use a washcloth with hot water as a compress. If it starts getting bigger or darker go to the ER.

 

[Lyrica's Reality]

Run it under warm water to get the blood flowing and it will probably get absorbed. If its something from the tablet thats caused it its probably lucky you/swym, whoever it is, missed the vein cause it'll do alot less damage under the skin.

 

[Unknown]

If you have a heating pad, wear it over your arm for about 15 minutes. If not, apply a warm/hot wet towel to the area.

If you start feeling pain or numbness, go to the hospital.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Really don't know where to get any micron filters been looing all around town but GA is a communist state when it comes to needles and such, we don't even have needle exchanges within a hundred miles of where i live.. just happen to know someone who is diabetic and scam um by bringin an empty bottle of insulin and making shit up to get my way LOL

you buy micron filters online. google gpzservices, and also check out our IV product review thread for other peoples recommendations.

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[cjm0322]

Swelling for Subutex/Buprenorphine/Pill won't go down

No topics available across the net (try googling it and see) about swelling that won't go down at the injection site of a subutex/Buprenorphine injection (i.e. finger).

In this case,
Swollen area does not go down, and we're on Day 4 after injection. Also, no more illicit drugs of any kind have been used in any form since that injection. When should the swelling go down. Heroin topics available on this subject and what to anticipate. Furthermore, swelling does not feel hot, as if when anticipating and abscess with heroin injection when shot is missed. Have never had this reaction before.

Thanks.

 

[LivingOnValium]

Yuo need to see a doctor ASAP and be honest to him about how you got your finger swollen. If your lucky hed prescribes you an antibiotic which will take care of the swelling. But since it's been 4 days alreaedy when this happened there's a good chance your finger needs to be operated. There's eaven a a chance of amputation now and the risk of that will grow bigger the more time you spend without medical attention. It's time to make a move, now or never...

By the way fingers are a really fucked up places to IV. I use my feet a lot which is alreaedy bad edough but i would rathed go for jugular (my neck) than a finger.

PS. I shoot Subutex too

 

[lazylazyjoe]

Until recently, I had been injecting suboxone everyday, for about 6 months. Never had any problems.
Is it any different than normal when you miss a shot?
Is there loss of feeling or discoloration? If not, it'll probably go away with time. I know sometimes my misses would stay sore for awhile so you shouldn't worry.
Fingers are difficult to inject as the veins are very tiny. You probably rolled out of the vein mid-injection and injected right into the soft tissue, damaging it.
If it doesn't seem to atleast be getting better in the day or two or you are worried, than a trip to the ER might be in order. I really don't think it's an issue though. A pic could help too.
Probably should have posted in BDD.

 

[KnowBudz]

Hopefully the OP has already gotten medical attention. Once that has happened, I would hope, if you wish to inject an opiate, you'll make a better choice....and use a better injection site!!

 

[thugpassion]

Is it any different than normal when you miss a shot?

Yes, Missing a shot of Subutex is Not like missing a shot of Heroin. You have to not miss at all shooting Subutex, and what your shooting had better be like crystal clear not opaque or milkey in color. Missing a shot of Heroin is not a big deal, missing a shot of subutex IS a big deal. And I would defently seek medical attention......like right away.

 

[low-dosejunky]

I'm rather horrified to see anyone shooting these things, I recall reading a moderator shoots suboxone without even filtering yesterday, I was horrified then too to say the least. I'm not trying to be a moral crusader here - shoot all the dope, coke, etc, that you want, but we've seen NOTHING but problems from shooting these kinds of pills. I've read the case studies thread.. that should scare enough people out of the idea.

Aside from that, you make it more difficult for people that really need the medication (i.e. me). All the abuse is going to lead bupe down the methadone path once the right wing gets a grasp of the situation, or back in power. Still. Do whatever makes you happy. Just wish it didn't hurt the rest of us.

Better yet, maybe they should realize that some people are addicted to shooting the stuff, and provide these patients with clean injectable solution. It would need to be monitored to prevent mass diversion though I'm certain.

I'm with the previous poster - seek medical attention RIGHT away, if that's not enough encouragement, look at the case studies thread.

low-dosejunky.

 

[cjm0322]

A pic could help too.
Probably should have posted in BDD.

Photos, respectively:
1-Regular Right Hand
2-Swollen Left Hand, Middle Finger (swelling spread down to top of hand)
3-Back of swollen Middle Finger

Also what is BDD? So I know where to be more efficient in posting forthright.

PS-To those who don't know the bigger picture. This incident is part of a more positive situation. Subutex was used for detox correctly/sublingually for only 5 days and successfully detoxed was the end result. No heroin use for a 12 days the first time in 5 years since starting detox. The injection was a one time deal as the desire to inject manifested itself successfully for the first and only time since detoxing, 5 days ago. Treatment intake occurs this coming week. I just want to resolve any health issues (ie finger) before entering treatment as not to be medically discharged once there. Any pain has been controlled by Ibuprofin when needed (1-2 capsules every 4-6 hours and once before bed) but only major swelling has remained steadfast & unable to be deterred, not worsening but not improving, either.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Probably should have posted in BDD.

Actually, we have an IV Complications Mega Thread & FAQ that would have been best to post this into.

Yes, Missing a shot of Subutex is Not like missing a shot of Heroin. You have to not miss at all shooting Subutex, and what your shooting had better be like crystal clear not opaque or milkey in color. Missing a shot of Heroin is not a big deal, missing a shot of subutex IS a big deal. And I would defently seek medical attention......like right away.

Missing a shot of "anything" can be a big deal depending on where you shoot it.

Heroin shot into an artery can be just as big of a problem as anything else.

One more thing you got wrong thugpassion - an IV solution's cleraness says nothing about what is in it. Talc dissolves clear into water, so if I put talc in water, it'll look like nothing is in it, though it is - you just can't see it.

A solution's clearness is a good sign and its cloudiness is a bad sign, but clear liquid can have things you don't want it to have in it (like viruses, bacteria, talc, etc).

I'm rather horrified to see anyone shooting these things, I recall reading a moderator shoots suboxone without even filtering yesterday,

Actually, I micron filter now. Thanks for the concern. I did it for over a year with no complications.

I was horrified then too to say the least. I'm not trying to be a moral crusader here - shoot all the dope, coke, etc, that you want, but we've seen NOTHING but problems from shooting these kinds of pills. I've read the case studies thread.. that should scare enough people out of the idea.

Yes, clearly there's no problems - it's just clear sailing when you shoot all the dope, crack, coke, etc you want...

That's not very good advice.

Better yet, maybe they should realize that some people are addicted to shooting the stuff, and provide these patients with clean injectable solution. It would need to be monitored to prevent mass diversion though I'm certain.

That's what they used to do before R&B came along and made Suboxone.

It wasn't 100% accepted and regular for every person, but some people would have been put on a safer form of buprenorphine for injecting if R&B didn't come along.

Do I personally care? In the bigger picture sort of way, yes, in a here and now sort of way, no (micron filtering is great).

 

[cjm0322]

If you have a heating pad, wear it over your arm for about 15 minutes. If not, apply a warm/hot wet towel to the area.

If you start feeling pain or numbness, go to the hospital.

I've done both the heating pad and icing. The heating pad (which I have used before to literally stop, what would otherwise be unavoidable, abscesses from developing. However, with this inflamed/swollen finger, when I used the heat pad, the pain was even more throbbing. I had to ice it, as I could not stand the heat. Whereas with using heat on heroin missed shots, the heat was a welcome relief and brought enough blood to stop the infection, however it was red and hot, but not swollen (yet).

I have iced it many times, but it never brings down the swelling...just does not increase in pain like with the heat pad.

Like I previously mentioned, I am entering treatment in less than a week. However, I do not have health insurance so visiting a doctor is not quite feasible. I will probably be able to see one once in treatment, but is there any reason to worry as I do not want to be medically discharged once I'm there.

 

[25homes]

opana er injection causing collapsed vein or infection?!?

Was having trouble iv'in opana er and pulled out a 25g needle and tried to hit my reg spot huge vein. Was real soar for couple days just were I hit. 4 days ltr in swollen all around spot and it's warm. Is this infection or vein collapsing? Any help appreciated