In the wake of Paris...

[Journyman16]

But does the Vatican yield any power over your mind?

Apparently, yes, over everyone who doesn't actively resist such indoctrination. There is a multi-level campaign being waged and the victims of it mostly have no idea it is going on. The Vatican is one leg of the structure that is performing the death of Human and the rise of Slave.

While the comment about those who complain about religion might sound good, it is emotionally loaded. Talking about Religion with the intent of awakening people to what is being done to their minds is not complaining but most would see your comment as applying to such people as well.

And personally, I have never been waiting for an ideal Religion to come along - in fact I think we will not mature as a species until we give up such fairytales and look at the Solid and see it how it really is, and then work on our position in it. Religion tells only lies about such things ebcause if they told the truth they'd have no reason for people to give over their lives (& money) to the leaders.

 

[Ninae]

Aww...I can see where you're coming from...you're holding onto a certain old-fashioned representation of all religion that is also a form of brainwashing.

People would talk like that in the 60s-90s when they were just starting to make their way out of repressive religion and learn to think independently. But most have come a bit further now.

Try to look inside instead and stop reading so much you don't like. There are also some things in this world that can remind you of God. Like children, nature, and religious choir music.

 

[Ninae]

 

[Ninae]

And there will be no death of the human and rise of the slave. What is coming is the death of the slave master.

 

[Journyman16]

And there will be no death of the human and rise of the slave. What is coming is the death of the slave master.

We can only hope. It's a Red Queen race between the technology needed to enslave us and the growth in enough people to resist it all.

Looking around the streets and cities, it looks like, so far, technology is winning.

Mind you, the evidence says the 'contamination' of an area by one aware and awake person tends to alter the environment - I remember seeing figures like 10% can change a community.

 

[Ninae]

I don't know if worrying about the bad things in the world really improves things. I think it might be more likely to give it energy and strengthen it.

But this is not something for you to worry about, it's something for God to take care of. We don't have much influence over how the world is run no matter what we do. But God has certainly lost patience with it, and it's all being taken care of and will be played out soon.

Look for leading figures to be exposed in different ways in the media. It has already begun. Look at who are getting exposed.

 

[fizzymk]

well, even the christian bible, God instructs people to kill over him many times, one verse, he instructs people to kill ENTIRE towns of people, if JUST ONE person there, has blasphemed God! Another verse he instructs people to kill anyone who cheats on their spouse, and to kill both people involved in the cheating (adultry).Below are just a few verses like this...

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your
> beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve
> other gods …do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity
> upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. - Deut 13:7-12
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> 6.)Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to
> death. The entire assembly must stone him. – Lev 24:16
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> 7.) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. -
> Leviticus 20:9
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> 8.) If a man commits adultery with another man's wife - with the
> wife of his neighbor - both the adulterer and the adulteress must be
> put to death. - Leviticus 20:10

So why arent christians obeying God in this regard? Is it because killing conflicts with 'mans laws' I wonder...then again, the christian bible tells us Gods laws trumps mans laws every time, so...?

I should mention Im not religious at all, Ive never seen any evidence of it in my life, or felt anything that would lead me to believe the God in the bible is who the book claims him to be, I have tried praying many times when going thru tough times in life, Ive never received any help from this, so Im pretty much indifferent about religion now.

 

[Ninae]

But in the New Testament Jesus instructs us to turn the other cheek instead. There's nothing in his teachings that support warring for religion. And he was totally opposed to "An eye for an eye" ideology.

 

[Journyman16]

And yet in the NT he is supposed to have claimed he came to fulfill the Law, not replace it.

Matthew 5:17...

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

That doesn't exactly seem to be saying the OT laws don't apply.

 

[Ninae]

I think he's talking about divine law. And the genuine prophets of old that might have been controversial at the time. He opposed the Old Testament enough that they killed him.

 

[Journyman16]

I'm not sure he was killed for anything Religious. Ralph Ellis has put together some decent evidence suggesting Jesus was actually directly related to 3 different Royal lines in the area, and that his claim to the thrones there were solid enough that he needed to be gotten rid of.

I'm not sure it is Divine Law being spoken of in Matthew - it specifically refers to 'commandments' so that would appear to indicate the laws of the OT.

Which Divine Law do you think is being 'fulfilled'?

 

[Ninae]

It's hard to make sense of because his words have been changed so much and written to suit The Old Testament to some extent.