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I'm throwing in the towel I need help guys. Big time. Can I get a drug counselor or someone with experience

zacho559

zacho559

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Hey guys I'm 27 years old from Kentucky. I got out of jail in February and am on probation. I stayed clean for about 3 months after which I picked back up on heroin. I am not using mgm-15 and Vyvanse tonight cause the mgm-15 And or the H is making me WD like hell. It feels l
Worst then heroin. I'm in hell mentally and physically. No one wants to be around me including my own family. Honestly I'm okay with going back to jail cause I'm getting dillusional some days and am getting combative. I think about fighting with the law and I think about running and acting crazy even though I haven't did anything. I have been WD like hell most days but paranoia and mental status sucks rn. I feel like I may need to go to a rehab but I'm scared the law will see that as an admission of guilt to the PO. At this point I live better in jail anyways. All my friends are there. I just can't get along on the street. I keep fucking up. I'm throwing my hands up. Any advice is welcome. Would love to talk to a professional till I can get to one physically.
 
Also will a 150mg or high dose of vyvanse while in severe opioid WD deadly or can it produce a stroke or seizure due to a already high BP?
 
Idk boys the vyvanse feels like it helps but also makes me feel slightly uncomfortable almost like the BP symptoms of WD is worst. Idk though. Just feels a lot harsher on me then usual. A headache that seems to lighten and then get worst. Comes and goes.
 
Your body is under strain form the withdrawals, but you're likely covering up some of the dysphoric feelings of withdrawal with a very different type of euprhoria.

Some people use stims to overcome opioid withdrawal, but typically lasts a day or so at most.

It ain't necessarily deadly unless you're in poor health.
 
tryptakid said:
Your body is under strain form the withdrawals, but you're likely covering up some of the dysphoric feelings of withdrawal with a very different type of euprhoria.

Some people use stims to overcome opioid withdrawal, but typically lasts a day or so at most.

It ain't necessarily deadly unless you're in poor health.
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This dude( who hates me) is actually a professional in this sort of field. He probably has learned all about this and at least textbook knowledge.
He is someone with at least some credentials.
 
If you want to change your lifestyle you may need extra support to assist you in your endeavor. On the positive side, you realize your present lifestyle is causing harm to yourself and people you care about. Getting clean will help clear the way for change but it will take commitment on your part to make it happen.

I feel like I may need to go to a rehab but I'm scared the law will see that as an admission of guilt to the PO. At this point I live better in jail anyways. All my friends are there. I just can't get along on the street. I keep fucking up. I'm throwing my hands up. Any advice is welcome. Would love to talk to a professional till I can get to one physically.
This is not an admission of guilt, this is you taking responsibility for your life.

 
@zacho559 - you've gotta really want sobriety. And have the will to try a new life style, out of jail. We can't implant those wants artificially into your brain - that won't help you - you'll need to really lay out your vision for your better future and make small concrete steps to get there.

Good luck, you can do this it is clear that you can.

The world outside of prison has a lot to offer. It will take time to reap the benefits but the potential to be happy is limitless.

Surround yourself with positive influences.
 
I signed up for an account just so I could reply to you. I'm glad that you spoke up and asked for help. That is a true will to leap into a more harmonious chapter of your life. I can see so many others wrote out their support as well. So I am glad you can be supported by this global community.

Listen,

You Matter!!!!

From my system of awareness. I look at the "energies" of things rather than just the physicality of it. What people sometimes label "addictions" are more than just a chemical dependency. It's also what happens while you are in certain "states" and the relationships you have built with "energies" while in those states. No one , no thing wants to "No longer exist" They fight to be "here" so they will constantly taunt you into using again because it's only through that frequency that they exist more fully. I feel that you should follow the suggested and approved detox protocol that is healthy for you. I also feel that you need to identity shift, cord up, cleanse and get some way showers on your team. As your environment sounds "stained" You can get in touch and I can help you handle one aspect of your phoenix path. You will conquer this if you will it to be. It has no choice but to yield and every tool that shapes your new reality shall be given to you. You must knows this. Also be aware that every thought that enters your mind is not all from you. Everytime you feel overwhelmed during these moments take a nice shower and add a bit of salt to your final rinse before you exit the bathroom. I am here to speak further when time permits. Keep well. YOU GOT THIS! You are loved!!!!
 
First off, congrats to you on wanting to get sober! This is the hardest step in recovery. I tried to get clean many times to no avail. It wasn’t until I truly wanted it that I achieved it. I’ve been addicted to different things during different phases of life. Opioid pain killers, heroin, Xanax, and surprisingly crack for a short time. Methadone saved my life. If you need some support feel free to holla at ya girl in the DM’s. Proud of you, you got this !!
 
Jnowhere said:
This dude( who hates me) is actually a professional in this sort of field. He probably has learned all about this and at least textbook knowledge.
He is someone with at least some credentials.
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I don't hate you, I like you a lot actually.

I appreciate you saying this - yes I have professional credentials and I'm also a recovering heroin addict - been clean from dope for 18 years this november.
 
puke said:
Wonder what happened to this dude
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Maybe he joined up with this guys commune

Sage888 said:
I feel that you should follow the suggested and approved detox protocol that is healthy for you. I also feel that you need to identity shift, cord up, cleanse and get some way showers on your team. As your environment sounds "stained" You can get in touch and I can help you handle one aspect of your phoenix path. You will conquer this if you will it to be. It has no choice but to yield and every tool that shapes your new reality shall be given to you. You must knows this. Also be aware that every thought that enters your mind is not all from you. Everytime you feel overwhelmed during these moments take a nice shower and add a bit of salt to your final rinse before you exit the bathroom. I am here to speak further when time permits. Keep well. YOU GOT THIS! You are loved!!!!
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@zacho559 - Just remember, it doesn't matter how many tilmes you fall down as long as you keep getting back up.

That AA BS where after 47 years a person has to admit drinking a shandy so goes back to ZERO DAYS. Talk about setting people up to fail!

So with you man. Don'r berate yourself or congarulate your self too much - half our 'choices' are pure chance.

IF you wind up back in chokey (I do hope not) then PLEASE, ensure we have your prisoner data so if nothing else we can all write to you with OUR problems ;-) If nothing else we can all send A4 posters so at least 'your pad' wich remind you of all of us who stand WITH YOU.
 
@kleananserene - don't laugh, I'm serious. Never spent a single night 'At Her Majasties Pleasure' but visited friends and saw just hiw bleak is all is.

Like juggling and mime, prison is just a tragic waste of time.

However... I get it that an institution by definition allows no free movement, free expression and a huge curtailing of person's human rights and if you struggle to adjust now, how will it be in three of five years time?

But if we could fill the walls and ceiling of your pad with letters, pictures OUR problems - that proves we do care. Also shows even the hard-man that you may only have drug fiends and mad chemists on YOUR friends, but rule 1 - don't anger the medicinal chemist.

Rule 2 is 'don't try to understand Kie3ly for she passed beyond all comprenation... this is special to us.
 
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