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I'm being given MDMA as part of a research study...

shit damn, that sounds intence, how tight was security and the like, seeing they have PURE mdma at this uni, surely it would be like fuking prison around that area?
They said that they had it in a vault "upstairs." A nurse, who i guess is the official research manager for the hospital, brought it down in a little baggie. Wayne State University, does tons of drug research studies. I was talking to the research assistant, and she said they have heroin, marinol (thc in a pill), cocaine, d-amphetamine... etc. Yeah, it was just a little purple pill. Security I think is only the vault... however, i don't think very many people know how to get in it, and it's very tightly monitored. I was essentially locked into the unit and was always being monitored, however I could meander around as I pleased. Overall everyone was really nice to a very Gurned out Razzamatazm...

my god that sounds like a dream come true!
Indeed it was... the only bad part was peaking in a tube where you aren't allowed to move at all, not even breathe too hard. I believe I'm going to participate with them on another few studies as well. I'll keep everyone updated... oh and I will be recieving pictures of my brain and such eventually... so I'll scan the interesting ones and load em up here!
 
Hey man if this is true....thats a pretty cool study to be apart of....I hope u dont view this as just a "free roll".

But sorry i just dont believe the gov't would allow for some random college students to be given MDMA for research....It would more realistic, ona-K suggested, the research of the neurological effects would conincide w/ the already on going research of the medical uses of such a powerful therapeutic tool. The drug would be administered to people who are already physically or psychologically damaged enough to out-weigh the "potential" dangers of MDMA.

Not to mention I seriously doubt they would ask u back again. Mainly because of the fact that its a schedule I substance. (the gov't views it as addicitive, why subject people to repeat doses of a supposed addicitve substance??). Even though the medical community may not view the drug quite like the gov't does, they would be under the closest scrutiny by the gov't and all studies would be very conservatively done.

But could u be a lil more specific of what the high was like other than being bugged out of ur mind, like u described?

*Bilzor, Suess, Ona-K, care to correct me here if necessary?*
 
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Hypnotik1 said:
Hey man if this is true....thats a pretty cool study to be apart of....I hope u dont view this as just a "free roll".

But sorry i just dont believe the gov't would allow for some random college students to be given MDMA for research....It would more realistic, ona-K suggested, the research of the neurological effects would conincide w/ the already on going research of the medical uses of such a powerful therapeutic tool. The drug would be administered to people who are already physically or psychologically damaged enough to out-weigh the "potential" dangers of MDMA.

Not to mention I seriously doubt they would ask u back again. Mainly because of the fact that its a schedule I substance. (the gov't views it as addicitive, why subject people to repeat doses of a supposed addicitve substance??). Even though the medical community may not view the drug quite like the gov't does, they would be under the closest scrutiny by the gov't and all studies would be very conservatively done.

But could u be a lil more specific of what the high was like other than being bugged out of ur mind, like u described?

*Bilzor, Suess, Ona-K, care to correct me here if necessary?*
I don't view it as a free roll, yes it was one, but I'm actually trying to volunteer to work with the research lab. I think what they are doing is excellent, and that is getting good solid research that MDMA, doesn't make your brain bleed, spinal fluid drain, turn left handed etc. The researchers have an easier time getting approval because it's not based on medicine, if they were to give me this to treat something, there would have to be alot more approval. The guy doing these studies is named Dr. Tancer, out of Wayne State University. They asked me back, because they can up to 3 times apparently, and they have a very hard time finding people for these studies that fit the criteria (I'm number 5 out of a total of 8, and they've been running this study for 4 years). The high was very clean, but very intense... much more than I'm used to. I've never had to roll alone, let alone without moving... it was very different. I did a bit of introspection in there, but it was hard because i was constantly being distracted by the test runners/the mri machine/ and my eyes bugging out. I feel a bit sketched out right now, i didn't sleep much last night due to anticipation, and i didn't really eat much either. If anyone has any specific questions feel free to ask.

This is all true... i have no reason to bs :)
 
Thanks for the updates. It's really interesting.

I know you have kind of answered this but could you really tell the difference between pharmaceutical grade MDMA to street ecstasy?

People who claim to have used ecstasy in the early '80's before it was made illegal say that difference is out of this world. How did you find it?

Sounds like you peaked pretty hard! I'm very jealous I haven't rolled for months - saving myself for NYE - too bad it couldn't of been in a better pilling environment.
 
Ha hes doing the research study at wayne state university in down town detroit! My friend was going to do that study.
 
Since america is full of bunk and mixed pills then any pure MDMA pills would be excellent.

Thats probably why he enjoyed it so much because there was nothing else mixed in with it.
 
to tell you the truth, this seemed to be just like having really good pills. I mean, I rolled hard, but i'd equivocate it with one time i took 2 really good pills a while back... it was a very large dose, as they bumped it to make the study more appealing... i don't know the exact mg though. As soon as i get the scan pictures i'll let everyone know ;)
 
my use before hand is sporatic... probably approximatly 10 times in the last year
but it's been probably 3 or 4 months since my last usage. I did ask them how much was in the pill, they couldn't tell me. I'm sure i'll find out eventually once the study is published
 
I can definitely verify that he is not making any of this up. I also took the test and it was definitely my hardest roll ever. I have used for about a year and my usual dose is now about 3 pills and I found it to be aproximately equivalent to the time that I took 4.

The thing that made it better, as many have guessed, is that there was nothing in the pill that wasn't supposed to be there. I really dislike the speedy feeling I get from alot of the poorer quality pills that often come around.

I asked a research assistant about the exact Mg we were given and she said that she couldn't tell me but when the study is done they are going to send me the results which will include the dosage.

And yes, this is quite hard to beleive, but whether you beleive it or not, I had the best roll of my life and got paid quite well in the process.
 
Jarhead634 said:
I can definitely verify that he is not making any of this up. I also took the test and it was definitely my hardest roll ever. I have used for about a year and my usual dose is now about 3 pills and I found it to be aproximately equivalent to the time that I took 4.

The thing that made it better, as many have guessed, is that there was nothing in the pill that wasn't supposed to be there. I really dislike the speedy feeling I get from alot of the poorer quality pills that often come around.

I asked a research assistant about the exact Mg we were given and she said that she couldn't tell me but when the study is done they are going to send me the results which will include the dosage.

And yes, this is quite hard to beleive, but whether you beleive it or not, I had the best roll of my life and got paid quite well in the process.

in jesus name,
amen
 
goddam it, so america finally comes through with something good about drugs
 
uni bum said:
goddam it, so america finally comes through with something good about drugs

I don't see anything good about it. Other than your a human subject of an unknown substance. I'm speaking from personal use however, and may be the exception. I hope they find out some useful info, but you dont want an asbestos case 20 years from not when they prove mdma is detrimental.

It makes me sick to see this, I promote use the research to help my own cause and others, but this fucking gay government is so whacked.

I used to do research for the office of naval research, university at buffalo's hyperbaric medical research lab. I know a Dr. that heads everything there, the guy is a genious. He's invented a blood substitute that gives oxygen craving cells life. It's been in production for years because the FDA has it backed up, he barely got the okay to to lab testing on animals. Potentially, this is the next generation upgrade for saline solution which only takes up volume. This substance if approved will carry oxygen in the bloodstream to deprived cells, even those of the brain. In essence, time is the source of all life. If you put one of these bottles in every ambulance in America thousands of lives could be saved. A soldier can carry his own fucking blood supply in his pocket.

His study hiss save thousands. Why should some fuck wit college researcher bypass all that shit for illegal drug use, which very likely causes harm?

I don't mean to be harsh, but its shit like this from the inside you guys wouldn't have an idea about that pisses me the fuck off. I'm all for researching illegal drugs to help people, but they're already experimenting on humans, when we already know MDMA is harmful. That's like saying "well, we know cigerette smoking causes cancer, but lets get some people give them free smokes and see what happens".

Your a gunea pig my friend, one of which the government has placed a counter over your head, just like people that were researching radiation that met an untimely demise. Your sacrifice will not go unheralded though, your a hero in my book.
 
thegreattailz said:
I don't see anything good about it. Other than your a human subject of an unknown substance. I'm speaking from personal use however, and may be the exception. I hope they find out some useful info, but you dont want an asbestos case 20 years from not when they prove mdma is detrimental.

It makes me sick to see this, I promote use the research to help my own cause and others, but this fucking gay government is so whacked.

I used to do research for the office of naval research, university at buffalo's hyperbaric medical research lab. I know a Dr. that heads everything there, the guy is a genious. He's invented a blood substitute that gives oxygen craving cells life. It's been in production for years because the FDA has it backed up, he barely got the okay to to lab testing on animals. Potentially, this is the next generation upgrade for saline solution which only takes up volume. This substance if approved will carry oxygen in the bloodstream to deprived cells, even those of the brain. In essence, time is the source of all life. If you put one of these bottles in every ambulance in America thousands of lives could be saved. A soldier can carry his own fucking blood supply in his pocket.

His study hiss save thousands. Why should some fuck wit college researcher bypass all that shit for illegal drug use, which very likely causes harm?

I don't mean to be harsh, but its shit like this from the inside you guys wouldn't have an idea about that pisses me the fuck off. I'm all for researching illegal drugs to help people, but they're already experimenting on humans, when we already know MDMA is harmful. That's like saying "well, we know cigerette smoking causes cancer, but lets get some people give them free smokes and see what happens".

Your a gunea pig my friend, one of which the government has placed a counter over your head, just like people that were researching radiation that met an untimely demise. Your sacrifice will not go unheralded though, your a hero in my book.


What are you talking about!? MDMA, is a very powerful drug, that when used correctly could change the face of mental health as we know it. Yes, there are negative side effects, as there are with ANY drug. We've all seen the commercials that list off the pages of potential side effects, however people are able to deal with those in order to have ie. lower blood pressure, no headaches, or even increased mental health. MDMA, before it was illegalized, was used by many psychologists, very effectively. I feel privledged to be able to participate in a study that shows that, when used properly... MDMA is NOT as dangerous as our governments say.
 
thegreattailz said:
I don't see anything good about it. Other than your a human subject of an unknown substance..

An unknown substance?? Its a fucking MDMA study. Who doesnt know what MDMA is?

I'm all for researching illegal drugs to help people, but they're already experimenting on humans, when we already know MDMA is harmful

Show me SOLID PROOF that MDMA is in fact harmful.
 
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