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"I'm afraid you didn't get 15pts" - EADD Benefits Thread
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done juan
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i wouldnt count on that working. a friend of mine went to her 'interview' and got told she didnt have enough points etc. the thing is though the doctor/psychiatrist whatever changed the answers! so say for example they asked "do you have any difficulty going out in public?" she said yes and they put her down as no. shes had her report sent through so im gonna help her to appeal
done juan ... that's because the form is deliberately arranged like that, so the questions they ask you, no matter if you say, no, are then elaborated on, and extended, and they wont stop until they find a situation or event where you HAVE been out to, and then that gets counted as a YES, you are able, because you HAVE been at some point
Every question is set up and probed that way ... so unless you state you have never been out, it'll be recorded as you can go out
if that makes sense. regardless of whether you said you can't, or very rarely do.
They apply the same questioning technique to every aspect of your mobility and interaction with others, and your ability to perform daily tasks etc ...
This is why it's INSANELY important to get your interview recorded. I can't stress that enough.
Every question is set up and probed that way ... so unless you state you have never been out, it'll be recorded as you can go out
if that makes sense. regardless of whether you said you can't, or very rarely do.
They apply the same questioning technique to every aspect of your mobility and interaction with others, and your ability to perform daily tasks etc ...
This is why it's INSANELY important to get your interview recorded. I can't stress that enough.
Mr Smokes Blunts.
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It seems like you just have to accept that you won't get any points, however wrong that may be, don't get too stressed and save your energy for the appeal - which you will almost certainly win. I have had family members rejected who have random fits almost every day, and other family members who can move for half an hour or so but will subsequently be in agonising pain who have been rejected, and they've both had them reinstated. Just keep calm and don't let it get on top of you. It's obviously easier said than done, but you know you're ill, your doctor knows your ill, and you will get it back.
and if you're feeling stressed, cancel the interview or don't turn up, if you don't feel able to go outside. That is also testament to how unable you are to go out. You can't go to the interview if you're physically not able.
No you don't have to accept this innitially. That's the wrong attitude, you can't rely on the appeals process.
Better would be to prepare more and understand more about how the questioning techniques work and the implications of the answers you're giving. And also make sure things are recorded so you can compare their assessment with what you actually said.
I think it would be sensible to prepare for the fact that you may not get enough points, but not accept it as a definite
Cornishman
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It's almost like you have to be a trained actor for them to take you seriously.
Tis a joke.
Tis a joke.
Mr Smokes Blunts.
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Accepting that you're going to lose, when you almost certainly are, is adequate emotional preparation for the innevitable. It doesn't mean i'm saying people shouldn't try their hardest to pass it and do everything you are saying though. Passing this shouldn't be about how clever you are at getting through or around the test, and best proving you are ill. If you are ill you should feel safe in the knowledge that even when they do innevitably fuck you over you will win at appeal.
Cornishman
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I might pay paul aaron from breaking bad to play me @ my atos appeal.
"Yo bitch. I'm depressed".
I'd get them to do a massive finale... screaming, shouting, crying, etc.
"Yo bitch. I'm depressed".
I'd get them to do a massive finale... screaming, shouting, crying, etc.
Mr Smokes Blunts.
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Do you have one Cornish? I thought you wanted a career?
No it shouldn't. If you'd read the information posted, you'll realise that ill/Disabled people don't feel safe in any knowledge, and are not supported to fight in this situation. Relying on appeal is both a dangerous and nieve outlook, as is advising someone to think that way. You've not read the thread. Especially, when, as I've already highlighted via info posted, the assessment process is unfair. A person being assessed will not, and cannot allow themselves to feel safe in the knowledge that they will win at appeal. That's how LOTS of people get fucked over when using that approach
Your way of approaching this is not the same as someone's who is sick and having to fight for their position. You're doing it from a fairly straight mind, a person with mental health issues isn't
That is all. Not debating this with you here. Post something useful eh? I don't believe that 'accepting you wont get any points' is useful.
Accepting you might not get enough, is, but using that as a way to prepare more for your initial interview, and not as a nieve failsafe without the former action
Cornishman
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I just had to send a questionnaire back to them.
I think an interview will pop up at some point.
Whilst I want a career, at this moment I'm in treatment for depression & subsequent opioid addiction.
I'm looking to the future cause I really wanna have something to strive for.
done juan
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well she is borderline agarophobic and deffo not fit for work. ive known her for about 10 years and she just cannot interact in social environments at all. if i had known the way these interviews are being done i would have gone with her and recorded it
Yes, this is what I've been pointing out to MSB. Preparing more for the initial interview and taking as many precautions as possible, and utilising all the tools available is a more sensible option to just accepting your initial assessment to go to appeal. It gives you an even greater chance, with the addition of an appeal as well. It's a very sensible approach and I'd advise as many people as possible to do exactly what you would of done had you known
I've just had a wee hissy fit that went "ock I hate moving posts they're at it again and they want me to move posts, I can't be arsed I've just sniffed some drugs and poured a glass of wine, they're a pain in the arse and want me to move posts"
Do I have to close the thread down to do this? It'll take me ages, I'm the only one on duty atm.
Do I have to close the thread down to do this? It'll take me ages, I'm the only one on duty atm.
monstanoodle
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Thankyou ever so much atm.I have butchered this thread for which I make no apology, all the useful and relevant information has been retained, enjoy
I know for certain that this thread is extremely helpful for so many people here.
I certainly hope not!
I've not been about on here for many reasons.
I want to say that the process(es) I've been through have worsened my mental state, and I remember reading an article stating that the appeals process was worsening people's mental health for those with mental health issues.
It's certainly degraded both my state and the state of my ladydfriend (to the point that our relationship is on the very-sharply-pointed rocks).
I just don't know if it will completely destroy it because of how I am at the moment, if I'll be approved as not fit to work (as my doctor's stated to me)...
For me to subject my behaviour to people I love because of how this has effected me is crushing my heart. It's not fair on them that I act (or not act in my best interest) in such a way
I need to change who I am, and this is just like someone's placed a brick wall infront of me so I can't move forward.
How do they expect me to be ready (mentally and physically) to get myself back into work if they do such a thing????
Urg, I'm sorry. I'm but moaning.
Thankyou to everyone who has put effort into finding information on this, and I'm so sorry to everyone who has been effected negatively by all this that's going on.
Much, much love
