IL, Chicago - 06.27-29.08 - The 2008 Midwest Electronic Music Festival

just to put it out there:

if you guys get something going in indy the weekend of this mess, i can hook up myself,james pennington,brian scott,& someone else if desired.
i know james & i can pull some numbers in indy fo' sure.
 
I think the event looks dope and I'd rather pay 50 bucks to get in than to go to Indy for a free event.. especially now knowing that the guys trying to put it together have no cash to do it and are doing it because more than likely, they didn't get booked to play and are shitty about it.

You guys have fun putting together a show with no money.

Have a Jellysicle.
 
timmy8709 said:
I think the event looks dope and I'd rather pay 50 bucks to get in than to go to Indy for a free event.. especially now knowing that the guys trying to put it together have no cash to do it and are doing it because more than likely, they didn't get booked to play and are shitty about it.

You guys have fun putting together a show with no money.

Have a Jellysicle.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How do you not see what these people are saying Timmy. There is a serious lack of midwest coverage. Also the promoters are USING everyone to promote their party that they are making money on. You aren't getting anything for doing a stage aside from some "promo". The lack of Indy and Detroit(especially) artists is a slap in the face to some of us who have been around for OVER A DECADE doing things in the MIDWEST! I sincerely hope you enjoy yourself wherever you go. I think it's gonna be a clusterfuck personally so I'm kinda glad I didn't get asked to play an event 3 hrs away ON MY OWN DIME.
 
As far as I know, all the stages are getting paid and are supposed to be using the money they get to throw to the guys they got playing for them..

The fact is, Infared stepped up to the plate to do MEMF and they've got some solid acts booked for the show, they didn't "have" to include all the companies that are setting up stages but they did so that way everyone that lives in the midwest and plays records, had a chance to play at MEMF and I think thats dope as fuck..

If your a DJ and you didn't get booked to play but still want to play, bring your records and come to the Mindboggle stage and I personally will try my best to get you behind the decks..

I'm also setting up vending for the event and I will have a pretty big area to do so and I might get a couple tents for people to eat in and relax.. we can setup some turntables in there if someone wants to help out with it..

You have to understand that not everyone from the midwest can be booked to play.. the fact is, Infared did the best they could to get everyone involved in it and thats what will make this event unlike any other..

I'll be their and Infared has my support to the utmost extent.

If anyone wants to bring there records and see if we can get you on our stage, simply send me a message!!!
 
timmy8709 said:
You have to understand that not everyone from the midwest can be booked to play.. the fact is, Infared did the best they could to get everyone involved in it and thats what will make this event unlike any other..


If their best is completely leaving out any indianapolis talent & barely booking any detroit talent then these people should not be throwing events because they have NO clue.
indy's scene has been going way before anyone involved with this event has even heard of techno.
and detroit, birthplace of techno... hello???

bottomline, if this event was called "3 day outdoor mega doo doo rave" then everything would be fine. BUT, its not.
calling an event the "Midwest Electronic Music Fest" brings on huge expectations.
which include a certain level of respect.
booking 250+ nobodys and totally negelecting 2 major midwest scenes/cities is utterly disrespectful.
i understand these are your peeps & you want to support them, but the Facts Speak for themselves.
 
timmy8709 said:
As far as I know, all the stages are getting paid and are supposed to be using the money they get to throw to the guys they got playing for them..

Let's say there are 250 performers (I stopped counting at 150 and was only 1/3 done), and the promoter(s) give each performer $50. I'm using math that even the headliners themselves will only get $50...that's $12,500 for performers alone, then venue rental, hotel, sound, lights, and other miscellaneous expenses.

Take into account that even if each stage gets a set amount of money, some are bigger than others, so the amount divided by the performers wouldn't be fair if a stage has 20 people playing versus 10.

If the promoters plan on paying everyone, I'm guessing: 1) they have some deeeep pockets, or 2) the locals won't be getting nearly enough cash for the effort put into it.

But I do wish them the best of luck - I haven't seen anything this huge in quite some time.
 
BB317 said:
Being a resident of Indy and partying since 2000ish. I think its fuckin pathetic that all of our awesome talent isnt being represented in a MIDWEST event. I think some of our ppl are the best in the tri state area. Hands down Id rather watch one of our dj's spin in a portapotty then drive 4 hrs to see headliners. I've always felt like that. Nap needs to be put on the map. I'm sick of us not getting enough light within the EDM scene. grrrr

well and one obvious bone of contention i have with this whole thing is that there are plenty indy "locals" who ARE headliners! has anyone checked the discography of adam jay, or slater hogan, or john larner, or any of our dnb guys putting releases out all over the place (to name just a few in a city that increasingly is bringing the heat from world-class producers)? i mean, we have people who should be booked on the MAIN STAGE, not asked to play for free OR for a pittance (more likely at a loss really, with gas and hotel and food figured in) on some side stage. same applies for cities all across the midwest, really.

that was basically what turned me off of the whole thing. the idea that the people who really have represented indy the longest (and all over the world at that), who SHOULD be reppin the city, are not people that i (or any of us...hint hint) should need to ask to play at a loss for some fucking rave. at the end of the day, it would be disrespectful to even ask.

and the saddest part is (and i know this will factor into regional stage lineups, even if people want to deny it), the people who deserve it the most, need it the least. so (and no offense to newer djs, but this sentence is in reference to dues paying and such), that means that at events like this, it's usually the newest people (who are fighting for gigs to get their name out) who end up with the slots. because they are willing to play for free (or at a loss) when more established djs won't (or can't, if they are making a living off their music/djing).

ack. the whole thing just frustrates me. i am still completely incensed that indiana is not represented, really.
 
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DJ Shiva said:
well and one obvious bone of contention i have with this whole thing is that there are plenty indy "locals" who ARE headliners! has anyone checked the discography of adam jay, or slater hogan, or john larner, or any of our dnb guys putting releases out all over the place (to name just a few in a city that increasingly is bringing the heat from world-class producers)? i mean, we have people who should be booked on the MAIN STAGE, not asked to play for free OR for a pittance (more likely at a loss really, with gas and hotel and food figured in) on some side stage. same applies for cities all across the midwest, really.

that was basically what turned me off of the whole thing. the idea that the people who really have represented indy the longest (and all over the world at that), who SHOULD be reppin the city, are not people that i (or any of us...hint hint) should need to ask to play at a loss for some fucking rave. at the end of the day, it would be disrespectful to even ask.

and the saddest part is (and i know this will factor into regional stage lineups, even if people want to deny it), the people who deserve it the most, need it the least. so (and no offense to newer djs, but this sentence is in reference to dues paying and such), that means that at events like this, it's usually the newest people (who are fighting for gigs to get their name out) who end up with the slots. because they are willing to play for free (or at a loss) when more established djs won't (or can't, if they are making a living off their music/djing).

ack. the whole thing just frustrates me. i am still completely incensed that indiana is not represented, really.

Thank you so much for clearing that up at the beginning. That was my main point. I was just pissed when I wrote it. That is also what I meant when we need to be put on the map. I know we have alot of sucessful producers and talent. Thats why it upsets me when they arent being represented at a event like this. Also I agree with before. If this was any other name for an event it prolly wouldnt be such a big deal, but the company names it MEMF. Therefore it should represent the best talent we have to offer in the midwest. So what?? Some ppl from outside the midwest come to it because it looks awesome and they dont even get the best tasting shit we have to offer? Im not saying that any of the dj's listed arent good, I'm saying that they dont deserve to be put ahead of others that are much better. Hell I'd be down for a grill and tables too. <3
 
bishop912 said:
Chances Are on 26? shit you better be going on the weekends...I would highly suggest never going there during the week or you will be utterly disappointed...Not from experience but I go on the weekends and the place still isnt top notch...
It was Filly's off of Teal rd... Not good
 
demf or wemf are multiple day "festivals" sponsored by their parent city...this is just a mish-mash of unprofessionalism. it's going to end badly. ppl won't show up. money won't be paid. it's the same ol', same ol'...i don't even understand why ppl are bickering about it. be glad you didn't get sucked into this vortex of fail. i mean you all have experience in such matters...you know how it's going to go down. not trying to be cynical and wish "doom" on the promoters and attendants by any means but lets call a spade a spade, ppl. stop talking about it and bumping the thread up to the top would be the best course of action/protest.
 
Patrick Bateman said:
stop talking about it and bumping the thread up to the top would be the best course of action/protest.

WE'RE NOT GONNA PROTEST!

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has anyone noticed that the homo stormtrooper is playing this event and upgraded his version number to 6.0?

im sure his set is still pre recorded
 
Jay-P Gold said:
has anyone noticed that the homo stormtrooper is playing this event and upgraded his version number to 6.0?

im sure his set is still pre recorded

I definitely noticed that. It was at the exact moment I saw his name that the disappointment of not getting a Midwest Dubstep stage went away =D
 
enstein said:
I just think that it is fucked up having a Midwest Electronic Music Fest w/ out an Indy/Indiana stage. What a shame. Indy should be representing the Midwest to the fullest. Nothing against Steady or Turtle but why didn't y'all pass the torch to someone who wanted to deal with it? I'm sure someone would've been more than happy to deal w/ it, or did you? Maybe it was to late? Oh well, I'm still going. Hopefully it pops off good and this one won't be last.

Whats This I hear about no Indy representation.
I know James b , Chad, And I are playing.
And if I see this correctly, Tripp is playing to.
 
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defi said:
Whats This I hear about no Indy representation.
I know James b , Chad, And I are playing.
And if I see this correctly, Tripp is playing to.

which stage?
 
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