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Ignorant myths that users spread as truth...

^ To be honest I'm not sure whether or not it's myth, though my friends and I drink OJ almost ritualistically when we roll.

TBH thanks to rolling I can't stand OJ anymore T_T
 
The theory about 'holes' in the brain has a kernel of profound truth in it:

Brain scans of MDMA users have revealed regional deficits in blood flow.
This shows up as 'holes' due to the imaging technology being used.

The fact that it was translated into bullshit, is caused by incorrect presentation in the media, combined with a lust for ignorance among users.

The 5-HT network has an incredible impact upon the distribution of blood in the brain.
Whether or not this modification can be called 'bleeding' shouldn't matter.
MDMA causes disruptions in the blood distribution in the brain.
This is fact.

It is well known among neurologists that a healthy brain is supposed to have even/average blood distribution around the entire brain. When disruptions are seen, regardless of the cause, the patient frequently exhibits major problems.

Why can't people state it simply and correctly?
Do we really need a fucking doctor at the party to speak the truth clearly?

Not only can it cause a drop in blood flow, but it can be seen for weeks/months following use.
In some users, a subsequent INCREASE is seen, often for up to a year or more.

These increases are associated with anxiety/depression among other symptoms.
It is considered a sign of neurotoxicity, as well as recovery.
Try looking up 'head-pressure' or 'brain-zaps'. They are easy to find.

At moderate recreational doses, these toxic 'increases' are unlikely. But not impossible...
But decreases, are relatively common. That means many MDMA users live with a deficit for weeks following use - this is evidence of possible neuroadaptation at recreational doses.

Serotonin is the 'brain-gut' connection.
The nerves that connect your intestines to your brain is what MDMA is taking advantage of.
Serotonin is a cousin of stomach bile.
In the brain, serotonin plays a starring role in the location and distribution of capillaries.

A mountain of scientific data points to the same conclusion - MDMA produces long-lasting/permanent changes in this highly complex 'brain-gut' circuitry.

This change is dose and temperature dependent.
It has been proven that re-dosing and high body temperature both increase the alterations seen.

Also hyponatremia, or swelling around the brain, caused by inappropriate water/electrolyte balance has been seen in users without consumption of water!
This is a dangerous/life-threatening condition and is further evidence of neurotoxicity.

The treatment for this is the slow intake of salt, which helps the kidneys remove the excess water from the bloodstream. Gatorade is the best solution. Too much salt too quickly can cause catastrophic infarct in the brain-stem.

I firmly believe that hyponatremia is caused by a sudden shift in the intestines, NOT just drinking too much water. This happened to me six months ago, without the presence of ANY water.
Remember, serotonin is the 'brain-gut' connection.

Long-lasting sexual side-effects are also possible.
Look up PSSD or Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction.
Any drug that plays with this 'brain-gut' connection can damage the sexual experience.
Former users of MDMA and SSRIs have described complete genital/anal numbness.
They have also described a complete lack of libido or sexual interest, regardless of the stimuli present.

The penis/vagina is connected to the rectal nerves.
The prostate is connected to the gastric nerve.
The cervix is connected to the vagus nerve, the only exception to the brain-gut connection.

By damaging the connection between your intestines and your genitals, you can lose all sensation and desire. Whether or not sexual activity during MDMA use increases this damage is unknown.
Recovery is normally seen to happen over a very long period of time.

I guess the most ignorant myths I have come across are those that dismiss anecdotal AND scientific evidence simply because they are not easily understood. :p

Stop looking for reasons to disbelieve the 'myths' you come across. They exist for a reason.
Start reading the hard-earned medical data, which is immune to such 'mythology'.

Recognize the truth that your intestines and your brain are wired together by an amazingly complex system of neurotransmitters. No other organ compares. This network is not very resilient - it can be damaged.

Even MDMA users that escape serious complications or symptoms, are likely making permanent modifications to this network.
Everything I have said is truth.

Space your rolls, and stop re-dosing.
And spend some real time on research before you go laughing at all the crazy 'myths' you come across.

Good luck. :D
 
I hate trying to correct people when they are talking about "stacks" and stuff, and they just keep denying or arguing. I also hate the ones about other drugs, like "vicodin 750" and another one I heard recently was a kid talking about how if you do meth 4 times you can't feel anything. That same kid was talking about when he triple dropped some "quad stacks". Drug ignorance maaannnn....

the only time i have heard stacks used was to tell how thick it was, not the potency
 
God its so funny what the media and shit puts in peoples head, like hey lets all get drunk and crash but weeds really bad. Nothings wrong with anything if its in a little moderation. I hate when people say orange juice makes you roll harder.
 
God its so funny what the media and shit puts in peoples head, like hey lets all get drunk and crash but weeds really bad. Nothings wrong with anything if its in a little moderation. I hate when people say orange juice makes you roll harder.

so you dont think that vicks makes you blow up? or massages? or hot tubs? or glowsticks? nah people just do it for the hell of it. it does make you blow up which is rolling harder for a short period of time. why is it so hard for people to comprehend?
 
VERY high doses of Vitamin C have been effective in preventing neurotoxic damage in animal models. The doses used are so high that an IV would have to be used in humans.

However, taking a large oral dose of Vit C repeatedly throughout the day...before, during, and after...may in fact provide protection. I suggest taking 3000mg every three hours.

Grapefruit juice has been proven to have an impact upon the blood-plasma concentrations of several drugs. It wouldn't surprise me if acidic orange juice could play a role in MDMA metabolism. Regardless, the Vit C can't hurt. It just isn't enough...

Loud techno music has been used in rat studies!
It was found that the music increased dopamine release in the nucleus acumbens, and decreased prolactin. This resulted in restoration of normal sexual function in the male rat, i.e. shorter ejaculatory latency.

The 5-HT system is wired to the entire brain, so it makes sense that different stimuli, such as music, lights, smells, and touch can produce surprising effects.
 
Oh man that pill was bomb it had to have special k or was acid based. Another I just heard was if the pill has any specs its laced and if it showed any kind of brown in it is got massive amounts of heroin enough too kill u on half a tab. Heard all those yesterday by someone that supposedly is like a f#$+img drug magician
 
An acquaintance of mine got caught with 6 and he didn't get much more than a slap on the wrist, in my area everyone says its 3 for manslaughter :p
 
ummmm yeah wrong it wasnt water that killed her but GHB aka "G" knowing or not she drank out a water bottler containg it and overdosed. but i agree with your statement about the media throwing shit on the drug when 99% of the time it isnt even the drug that killed the person but just the person own dumb self.

Another ignorant myth....
 
Some stuff that I've actually heard:

- "Make sure you drink a lot of water when you roll! If you don't your insides will boil and you'll cook from the inside out."

The second part is obviously fake, but you can still die from not staying hydrated.
 
lol i heard the funniest one today.
it was that if you roll during the daytime, the UV rays stop your body from producing serotonin so you dont roll as hard.

the girl was completely serious too.
 
That ecstasy is the pill form of cocaine, not sure exactly who said it but I heard it at a kickback..
 
lol i heard the funniest one today.
it was that if you roll during the daytime, the UV rays stop your body from producing serotonin so you dont roll as hard.

the girl was completely serious too.

Being in sunlight actually causes the brain to release more serotonin I believe heh

"mescaline tabs" are the most annoying bullshit I've ever repeatedly heard having tripped mescaline many a time.
 
I just had a guy tell me that you can't lose the magic if you're actually doing MDMA, even if you do it every day.

He said the only way you'll lose the magic is if there's coke heroin or lsd in it.

He was serious. Dead serious. I want to hit him.
 
There was a guy telling me that if he were to punch someone on ecstasy hard enough on the back that their back would collapse or something liked that. He was talking to a group of people looking serious, and they all actually believed him :p
 
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