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Ignorance About Drugs ~ Bitch Here

^^haha lol.

Luckily some of us are not on drugs (or at least not too many ;)) this morning and can still attempt to educate away some of this mass stupidity. :D
 
delta_9 said:
IMO nobody should be here bitching if someone dosen't know that much about drugs, none of us started off with all the answers, and we were all newbs at some point.
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I don't think people here get pissed when people don't know anything to begin with but rather when you try and educate someone and they retort with something along the lines of "Well I read it in a book and I'm going to trust a book over you!".
 
^ or even better: "my health teacher said E pills will put big holes in your brain! and pot will make you stupid! also she said that acid will stay in your spinal fluid FOREVER!! and shes a teacher so she don't lie DUHHHZZ!"
 
Damien8787 said:
I don't think people here get pissed when people don't know anything to begin with but rather when you try and educate someone and they retort with something along the lines of "Well I read it in a book and I'm going to trust a book over you!".
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The one I get a lot is when I try to refer people to Erowid, they make sarcastic comments about getting your information from the internet, as if the most complete and accurate compendium of psychoactive drug information in the world is identical to some random guy's opinion on a message board simply because the medium of transmission is the same.
 
Well, hey if they start figuring out the internet is actually the technological equivalent of the truly free world that it should be, there could go all those great deals on Panamanian alprazolam and Cambodian hydromorphone. ;)
 
going back to the debate of safe drug use and responsible drug use, there definitely is a difference. safe drug use is something pretty difficult to achieve, the safest you could get would be getting drugs from doctors in a controlled hospital environment, and even then there are a lot of variables. responsible drug use however IS possible. saying the drug use is responsible isn't the same as saying it wont kill you or fuck up in anyway, its just saying that all possible precautions have been taken and the person is in full awareness of what they are doing. i mean isn't that what blue light is all about? harm minimisation aka responsible drug use?
you'd kind of hope people did believe in responsible drug use otherwise you'd have a lot more people taking drugs irresponsibly.
 
^^ +1 or at least +½ or +¾ or something. Hey, its okay to get all doped up into the land of blissphoric wonderlands of harmonic beautificiality, once in a while... ...once in a while... ...once in a while...
 
The sad thing is that in our culture "responsible drug use" rarely occurs. Not that it can't occur- it definitely can, but how often do we see it?

With drugs that can easily kill us, we are definitely safer about our use, but with those that don't, I rarely see anyone "stay within their limits"

Might be bad luck on my part, though. Maybe everyone else does.
 
drew345 said:
Drug use by nature is irresponsible but who cares? its fun to be irresponsible
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I disagree. Drug use in and of itself isn't irresponsible. It's just an activity one can choose to partake in like anything else. There are a lot of things people do that are potentially or temporarily harmful to their bodies, yet nobody classifies them as irresponsible.
 
I dont mind if people are slightly ignorant, as I myself (and alot of people on this site) don't know EVERYTHING. It's when people give advice and are completely 100% off the mark and then when somebody corrects them they continue to spout their bullshit...thats when it bothers me.
 
I hate ignorant people preaching about the downsides of drug use, people making pot out to be the devil and then go out and get hammered every weekend, is just to hypocritical, but realy everyone can see that except for like minded individuals.
But really it doesn't really matter if people who are ignorant about drugs except for them being annoying...
as long as those same ignorant people don>t start using drugs in stupid ways they can have their heads up their asses all they want i guess...
 
GenericMind said:
I disagree. Drug use in and of itself isn't irresponsible. It's just an activity one can choose to partake in like anything else. There are a lot of things people do that are potentially or temporarily harmful to their bodies, yet nobody classifies them as irresponsible.
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Yes, this is essentially true. Though it could be unhealthy, we should have the right to choose what we can do to our own bodies. The only problem, of course is when our actions resulting from overdosaging are irresposible, but then that is a whole other matter, and only we should be held resposible for our actions, not what we put into our bodies, since we did put them there.
 
Once had a good friend of mine explain to me how LSD is made from super refined battery acid!

We've all heard of the 'smack-based' pills, lmao. Wont even go further into that one.

My friends mum belives that her valium and xanax are herbal, lol, also she claims that if you eat too many mushrooms in one year, you will start to see little mushrooms everywhere in your vision because of the strycnine(sp?) content. This same lady, found out about my friend injecting morphine twice, she suddenly started watching him like a hawk, expecting him to steal her valuables to fund his 'habit'. Which consisted of 2 shots, lmao.

Another friends teacher told him meth and mdma physically burn holes in your brain.

Definantly is more, when i remember i'll post 'em.
 
The "biggest dealer in (his area)" came in trying to off some pills.
"what are they?"
"These are better than roxi, they are a mix of benzos and painkillers".
"..but, what are they?"
He responded a little slower this time, "OK, they are a mix of benozs and painkillers."
He didn't know what the fuck they were or thought we were dumbasses, I think it was the former. Turned out they were valium. 8)
I found it funny.
 
Ignorance

I always find it very irritating and hypocritical when people who are against recreational drug use have no problem popping adderall, ritalin, concerta, etc when it comes to study time, however they stick their noses up at those who do speed at a rave. I don't mean to limit my frustration to just one drug but that was the one i could think of the fastest. Theres also people who consume huge amounts of alcohol and binge drink themselves to death, but they think stoners are "stupid". I feel like certain drugs slowly gain social acceptance and people ignore the fact that these are still drugs.

I'm wondering if anyone else experiences people displaying selective morals towards drug use, or is it just @ my college?
 
Totally .... I just wrote in another thread, that alcohol causes a lot of the same problems or more then other drugs (adddiction driving related deaths violence) but doesnt get the same unfortunate reputation. ( a stoned person is more likely to think of all the bad things that could happen from a fight, where as a drunk person "WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY MOTHER " follwed by a punch to the face....)

I think a lot of it is because it is illegal, and also the violence assosciated with drug dealing.
 
People are generally accepting of smoking pot and pharmys (because they are legal, and pot because its so common).

I mean I dont care what you do, but I wouldnt appreciate someone using meth, herion or crack if I am throwing a party with a couple kegs and I allow people to smoke pot....
 
go_raps_go said:
Totally .... I just wrote in another thread, that alcohol causes a lot of the same problems or more then other drugs (adddiction driving related deaths violence) but doesnt get the same unfortunate reputation. ( a stoned person is more likely to think of all the bad things that could happen from a fight, where as a drunk person "WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY MOTHER " follwed by a punch to the face....)

I think a lot of it is because it is illegal, and also the violence assosciated with drug dealing.
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Too true. I've gotten in fist fights with drunken hicks for the most idiotic of reasons. I spent too much time hanging out in shitty bars. I'm actually happier now doing psychedelics recreationally and responsibly, and hardly ever drinking (I don't think I've touched more than a beer or two in like 8 months) than I ever was when I was binge drinking all the time.

I guess you can't really make it a statement across the board though. What's always most important is how a person handles themselves on a substance, and not what the substance is. A rowdy drunk is as bad as a psychotic tweaker is as bad as someone having a hallucinogenic freakout. Idiots are always ruining it for those of us who can actually handle ourselves on drugs.

I'm definitely with the OP when it comes to those hypocrites though. If you watch TV for three hours on an average evening you're going to see like 500 commercials that are basically all about better living through chemistry. I don't need "that guy" telling me pot or LSD is wrong.
 
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