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iffy experience first time rolling...worth trying again?

The mandelin is really only helpful if you already suspect there is PMMA there, it's actually a RARE AS FUCK adulterant because it's so deadly most people know to stay the fuck away from it... BUT, if you DID somehow get it it could REALLY be bad, so it's always good just to check if you're really paranoid.

yeah, i live in northwest oregon. most of the deaths from pmma were in the uk, correct? and i'm assuming most of the people who died took more than one pill, which i don't plan on doing again, given my past reaction...
 
So I have a couple questions. I know someone whose really scared to try Molly, and their boyfriend and her got some for the two of them. First question; She did a half of an adipex today and she did a little soboxone, will that have an effect with Molly? Second: She's terrified of taking it. They'll be in a great setting, just her boyfriend and her all by themselves at their house. So will she have a bad experience if she thinks she's going to have one? I've heard that how drugs makes you feel all depends on your environment and attitude. Their environments great but she's scared shitless. She's so scared because every time she smokes weed her body goes numb and she freaks out because she hates the feeling. But I heard it doesn't matter how scared you are of Molly once you take it you'll feel great. Is that true? I don't know how pure their stuff is. I know their friend did some last night and felt great, but yeah. Her boyfriend isn't scared at all, he'll do it and either feel great or not feel it at all. She hasn't done any crazy drugs and she doesn't want to do it and regret it like how she does with weed. I told her I'd ask someone who knows. Please reply!
 
So I have a couple questions. I know someone whose really scared to try Molly, and their boyfriend and her got some for the two of them. First question; She did a half of an adipex today and she did a little soboxone, will that have an effect with Molly? Second: She's terrified of taking it. They'll be in a great setting, just her boyfriend and her all by themselves at their house. So will she have a bad experience if she thinks she's going to have one? I've heard that how drugs makes you feel all depends on your environment and attitude. Their environments great but she's scared shitless. She's so scared because every time she smokes weed her body goes numb and she freaks out because she hates the feeling. But I heard it doesn't matter how scared you are of Molly once you take it you'll feel great. Is that true? I don't know how pure their stuff is. I know their friend did some last night and felt great, but yeah. Her boyfriend isn't scared at all, he'll do it and either feel great or not feel it at all. She hasn't done any crazy drugs and she doesn't want to do it and regret it like how she does with weed. I told her I'd ask someone who knows. Please reply!


^ We don't really allow third party questions here on BL.. so if it is you, don't be afraid to say so :) if it's really not though, get the other girl here on BL so she can read these kinds of things for herself..


There's no reason to be scared of MDMA.. if you like orgasms you will like rolling lol. Have you tested your stuff? I find that KNOWING you have MDMA and not some bath salt in a capsule sold as "Molly" really eases people's fears. Testing kits can be found at dancesafe.org and will tell you almost exactly what you have.


They are kind of right though.. once that MDMA hits all your fears will melt away haha :)




Just go with the flow. Don't feel forced to take it (you NEVER have to take drugs), but if you decide to just remember that after you've taken it, there is no going back so you might as well enjoy it! There's no point in getting yourself all worked up over popping a pill.. if it's MDMA, it will be AMAZING





If I was you I'd force your BF to buy a test kit though haha... a LOT of bunk shit gets sold as "molly", and while you'll have an amazing time on MDMA, something like MDPV or meth could scare you off it for life...

So make sure you got the good shit! Happy rolling :)





Oh, and one last thing to ease your mind... some people FREAK THE FUCK OUT on weed, but can take like 25 hits of LSD to the dome and be just fine. Weed is just weird like that haha, so don't necessarily think that just because you have a bad time with weed that you will have a bad time on all drugs...




yeah, i live in northwest oregon. most of the deaths from pmma were in the uk, correct? and i'm assuming most of the people who died took more than one pill, which i don't plan on doing again, given my past reaction...


Sorry for the late reply.

Hell girl, you're in fucking Oregon? No wonder you got some bunk shit :\

I live in Washington, right above you.. and let me just say... OUR AREA IS FUCKED. There are almost literally no good pills in this area. Some good crystal around, but the majority of that is either methylone or other RCs, or just straight crystal meth.



Washington and Oregon have some of the highest meth use rates in the country, and there are EXTREMELY large amounts being brought into the West Coast. Meth is one of the most popular drugs out here really, it can be hard to see it when you live in the suburbs but hell I know grandmothers that smoke meth with their kids and their kid's kids..


So it sounds like you may have gotten some methamphetamine, it's probably the most likely candidate at least.

PLEASE get a test kit.. you really need one on the West Coast without a doubt.




PMMA isn't a big worry here, at least. Just meth really..... a LOT of meth.
 
Wow Kali, I missed the whole first part of your question... I must be tired lol :p



But yes, both phentermine and suboxone will interfere with MDMA.. the phenteramine, being very similar to amphetamine it will have all of the same problems as mixing MDMA and adderall/meth. It may not be as neurotoxic as adding either of those to a roll, and will likely have less side effects to them too, but it's also likely to dull your roll a bit and probably put you on edge more.

The suboxone will also dull the roll, MUCH more than the phentermine though. Who know's though, maybe it would deal with the extra side effects from the Apidex... or maybe it will put a much larger stress on your heart from giving it mixed signals...



Personally, I would not risk it. Wait a week or so before rolling... if you were to take it tonight, it's very likely you will be disappointed.
 
Sorry, I should've just said "me" but u get nervous. I don't care as much if it dulls the effects, I just don't want it to have a bad interaction and hurt me in some way. I guess that was my question: will taking Molly while on those other drugs hurt me? It was only a half of an adipex and it was about 11 o'clock in the morning. My friend did the same Molly as I got last night and it must have been good because she said so. No ones pressuring me, in pressuring myself. It's good to know people who don't like weed like LSD, I've always been afraid of those things because weed just doesn't work well with me. I just wish I could take it and not stress about it. I really want to do it and have a great experience like everyone says, but then I'm scared because I hear all these horror stories of people's brain swelling and them dying, or people feeling weird days after. So you do think if I am scared, but take it anyway, I'll be okay? Thanks for the fast replies.
 
Hell girl, you're in fucking Oregon? No wonder you got some bunk shit :\

I live in Washington, right above you.. and let me just say... OUR AREA IS FUCKED. There are almost literally no good pills in this area. Some good crystal around, but the majority of that is either methylone or other RCs, or just straight crystal meth.



Washington and Oregon have some of the highest meth use rates in the country, and there are EXTREMELY large amounts being brought into the West Coast. Meth is one of the most popular drugs out here really, it can be hard to see it when you live in the suburbs but hell I know grandmothers that smoke meth with their kids and their kid's kids..


So it sounds like you may have gotten some methamphetamine, it's probably the most likely candidate at least.

PLEASE get a test kit.. you really need one on the West Coast without a doubt.




PMMA isn't a big worry here, at least. Just meth really..... a LOT of meth.

FUCK. god that's so awful. i feel really freaked out now...someone told me that on college campuses the stuff was real molly, because the dealers bring it there from home over breaks, from areas with less meth usage (like the east coast and shit). but the guy i got these pills from lives in oregon, so that explains it...yikes. thank god i got a marquis kit. never again will i roll without a test first.
 
...thank god i got a marquis kit. never again will i roll without a test first.
It sucks that you had to be one of the unlucky few who have to learn this lesson the hard way, but you got away with nothing more than some bad memories and a very clear lesson. I've had a similar experience with mPCC tablets sold as MDMA. Since then I always test first, roll later. Now you will too.

...about 30 min after taking the second pill, she started rolling and it was AWESOME and felt just like she expected.
If your first time on MDMA feels just like expected, you're probably not on MDMA. The first time is almost always much better than anyone expects! =D

now her friends are planning on rolling again for an upcoming event, and she's conflicted as to whether she should try molly again.
Definitely! MDMA is a wonderful drug and your first actual time using it will be a night you'll remember forever. In a good way this time. Just follow the simple novice rules:
-Make sure there is about a month in between to let your poor brain replenish the serotonin (this is playing it almost ridiculously safe, but for you that may be best).
-Test your material! Though I don't think you'll ever roll without testing again anyway.
-Take a low to moderate dose, 1.0 - 1.5 mg/kg body weight. If you're not sure use the 1 mg/kg, you can always drop some more when you realize you feel fantastic.
-Inform yourself. Ask your experienced friends, browse these forums and the rest of the internet and you'll find that MDMA is quite safe and a lot of fun.
-Enjoy! We would like to hear how your first actual time was.

she's also curious if you guys have any suggestions for other drugs that someone can take while their friends are rolling--ones that would keep her in that same happy, peaceful, lovey, talkative mindspace without actually rolling (perhaps a really potent sativa brownie? :D)
I'm sorry, but the only drug I know that will give you such a happy, peaceful, lovey, talkative mindspace is MDMA. It's great! The only substances that, for me, approach the effects of MDMA are its close chemical relatives like 6-ADP and there is no way you're able to get that over there.

i'm just worried that [...] taking even a 100% pure mdma pill might exacerbate the stress that first pill already put on my heart and nervous system. i obviously recovered fine from this first pill, but i don't want a second pill, even one i tested and/or filtered, to worsen the harm i've already done and potentially lead to even worse health problems, like a heart arrhythmia or something. is this even a thing that can happen? or does your heart/circulation/etc. heal fully in between doses of stimulants? i'm assuming not...
Both your heart and nervous system are fine. When you left the hospital they probably ran a whole battery of tests on you and they wouldn't have let you go if there was a heart problem. It takes a lot of work to damage your heart and even if your previous experience somehow did, you're giving it plenty of time to recover. Unless you have a serious pre-existing condition like very high blood pressure or arrhythmia, a low to moderate dose of responsibly used MDMA is safe.

Thinking your going to develop some heart defect after rolling twice is a bit delusional, lol.
Not delusional, just misinformed.

this is really good advice, thanks. the doctor said they really weren't sure what i took, it might have been mdma and my prior use of ssris might have caused me to metabolize it weirdly, or it might have been adderall, meth, mda, or something else too.
I don't think it is good advice. If you wait six months you won't think of it for four months, but the anxiety will come right back when you have that pill in your hand. Wait a few weeks for the sake of serotonin, just to be sure, and go for it. The SSRIs interest me though. Why were you taking those? And were you using them right up to the point where you took your "molly"?

oh, man, thank you. so, if i can test for amphetamines with the marquis and pm(m)a with the mandelin, are there any other possible adulterants I need to look out for? or will that ensure i have a safe pill?
The only way to ensure a safe pill is to open a bag of M&M's. But if you buy from a reliable source and always test, you're as close as you can get.
Now go and read some stuff about drugs, it's Kali's turn.

So I have a couple questions. I know someone whose really scared to try Molly, and their boyfriend and her got some for the two of them. First question; She did a half of an adipex today and she did a little soboxone, will that have an effect with Molly?
These drugs might influence your roll, but at those doses I don't think it would be significant. However you are pretty scared so it's best you have as little to worry about as possible. Wait a week since you took these (that would make it next friday, right?) and these drugs won't affect your roll at all. Use that time to prepare yourself. Browse this forum, talk to experienced users and generally inform yourself. MDMA isn't scary at all.

Second: She's terrified of taking it. They'll be in a great setting, just her boyfriend and her all by themselves at their house. So will she have a bad experience if she thinks she's going to have one? I've heard that how drugs makes you feel all depends on your environment and attitude. Their environments great but she's scared shitless. She's so scared because every time she smokes weed her body goes numb and she freaks out because she hates the feeling. But I heard it doesn't matter how scared you are of Molly once you take it you'll feel great. Is that true? I don't know how pure their stuff is. I know their friend did some last night and felt great, but yeah. Her boyfriend isn't scared at all, he'll do it and either feel great or not feel it at all. She hasn't done any crazy drugs and she doesn't want to do it and regret it like how she does with weed. I told her I'd ask someone who knows. Please reply!
Terrified of taking it but you still want to? That's the very definition of bravery! I applaud you. You are right that once you take it you'll feel great, you just don't realize what feeling great feels like yet. And once you realize that feeling great is the result of that scary pill, all those fears will be gone instantly. You will walk around in amazement, probably touching everything because it all feels wonderful. Your face will be like :D. There is also a pretty good chance you'll jump your BF's bones.
It always makes me crazy horny, anyway.

By the way, the setting you have for your first roll is absolutely ideal. You'll be in a familiar environment with someone you love and who loves you. That is simply perfect.
One more thing: MDMA is nothing like weed. No similarity whatsoever. I personally like weed and love MDMA, but I also know people who hate weed (like you) and love MDMA (also like you). Every single person I've ever met who has taken it (responsibly) says they loved it the first time. I'm actually jealous of you, I would like to experience that first time again!

I just ask two things of you: Firstly, please let us know how it was, as first timer stories are always inspiring. Secondly, enjoy yourself!
 
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