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I was abused by a priest. Please help.

dhcdavid

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Last week I watched "Deliver Us From Evil". For those who know about this documentary and/or have watched it I don't need to say anything further about it and would urge you to be kind and spend five minutes reading my story below.

Basically it is a documentary about sexual abuse by a Catholic priest in America and the cover-up by the wider Catholic church of this particular sexual abuser's actions and the actions of other similar sexual predators.

I was raised in the protestant Church of England: sung in the church choir of my parish church from the ages of 7 to 18; watched my father train as a priest in the very same church from when I was about 15 (he was formerly a high-school teacher) and suffered an 18-month long period of sustained sexual abuse and rapes at the hands of a retired priest called Fr Charles who although was technically retired was very active within my Church.

This is a long post but I thank you from the bottom of my heart if you choose to spend 5 minutes reading it and would appreciate any advice or input you are able to provide upon reading my story.

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Just turned 16 I ran away from home for a few days and a friend at the time (a fellow chorister) told me that Father Charles would be able to help me.

On my way back home I visited him and told him my problems and he was lovely and helpful: fed me, gave me beer and told me I was welcome round his place anytime.

My home life was really shitty at that time so I took him up on his offer and often popped in to see him. One day he asked for help to do his exercises: which necessitated my lying on the floor (clothed) and him on top of me doing some pumping of arms.

This quickly escalated into sexual activity which I was uncomfortable with but he blackmailed me and told me if I told anyone that not only would nobody believe me but that he would tell my parents and the police that he'd witnessed me stealing from the church and stealing from him personally.

I can't believe I let myself be groomed and manipulated like this but I did and he provided me with free alcohol eveytime I went round there, I was lonely (had no real friends) and my home life was awful.

I was sexually assaulted and raped by that priest when I was 16 and 17 for an 18 month period.

The priest was a retired priest connected to the church where I sang in the church choir (and had been in that choir since I was 7 years old).

My father was trraining to be a priest in that church at the time and after 18 months of abuse I ended up attempting suicide and informing the Vicar: the head priest of that church at the time.

I was picked up by the police from the beach where I'd attempted suicide by drinking three bottles of wine and taking a kitchen knife to my wrists after local folk had heard my screams of agony.

I told the police why I'd been attempting suicide but refused to disclose the name of the priest because I was so fucked in the head at the time and wanted to avoid a scandal which might adversely affect my father (who as part of his traing was seconded to the very same church where I was in choir and where Fr Charles preached, did weddings and funerals and administered the eucharist.

The Vicar didn't at first believe me and summoned the Priest to the vicarage and asked the priest - Father Charles - if my allegations were true and Father Charles confirmed that everything I'd said had happend was true.

The perpertrator was allowed to quietly leave the Parish (they even had a leaving do for him) and when my parents were informed my mother said "How could you do this to us?".... i.e. how dare I bring this shame on the family and ruin the kindly old Fr Charles' life. Unbelievable but true.

The Vicar in the 15 years since this happened was promoted and promoted and is now a Bishop. Fr Charles, I later discovered, moved parishes and was still permitted to carry out priestly duties in in his new parish even though the local Church of England Bishop and his staff were totally aware of what Fr Charles had done to me

If Fr Charles hadn't been a priest and did what he did to me and the police found out - or if my family had supported me in pressing charges against him - he would uindoubtedly have been convicted of serious sexual assaults and rapes of a minor and would have gone to prison for a number of years.

Over the next 15 years I repeatedly had nightmares about what happened - and still do - on an almost nightly basis; I regularly experienced awful flashbacks (especially when being intimate with my girlfriend); essentially I suffered Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which a Psychiatrist has formally diagnosed and have suffered from crippling bouts of depression which has led to several suicide attempts.

They say "time heals" but in my case the opposite is true with regards to all this.

Recently I made a formal complaint to the Church of England's "Diocesan Safeguarding Advisor". This lady travelled up from the Diocese where it all happened (I now live 400 miles away), interviewed me in depth and promised to help me.

The perpertrator - Fr Charles - passed away several years ago but died with not a spot on his public image, in the eyes of all the parishioners who've known him in the various parishes in which he's spent his life "serving God" :X .

And the Vicar and Rural Dean who I went to for help 15 years ago successfully hushed up the whole affair so that his own resume (C.V.) wasn't adversely affected in any way (when he really should have reported what he knew to the fucking POLICE) and is now a Bishop.

As compensation (although that word was never mentioned by the "Diocesan Safeguarding Advisor" - she preferred to simply talk about "helping me" 8o ) the Church of England have "kindly" :\ agreed to fund three sessions with a private practise Psychiatrist and 12 sessions with a counsellor who specialises in male survivors of sexual abuse.

Here is where I'd really appreciate some advice from folks or simply your 2c on the whole thing.

Basically I feel like I'm being - again - fobbed off by the Church and am really REALLY angry with the Bishop who, although he's aware of my approach to the church over this matter, hasn't even bothered to personally write to me and apologise for his gross negligence in failing to report the sexual abuser to the police.

Should I sue the church? Would I stand a realistic chance of being awarded damages? The vicar/ now Bishop fucked up but if I take legal action against the Church I'm not sure if I want to risk ruining his career......... I feel like I want revenge but am not sure of how much revenge and I'm also worried about my father's reaction (he's now a successful Vicar himself).

If you've read to this point then THANKYOU. I appreciate this was a long post but I needed to lay everything out as clearly as I could.

Please either respond in this thread or send me a private message..... especially if you have personal experience of this kind of thing as I'm feeling angry and lost and confused and alone and have no fucking clue whether I should do anything further and take action against the Bishop and the Church of England or should I try to simply let it all go and move on.

The problem is that I've tried to move on and let it go for the last 15 years and it simply won't go away from my mind and heart.
 
I'm really sorry this happened to you <3

As far as what sort of action you should take, I don't think anyone here can or should give you that sort of advice.
That is something you will have to decide.
Talk to a Lawyer, talk to a therapist-
A Professional opinion would be very valuable in this situation.

<3
 
As ocean said I'm not sure anyone here is qualified to give you any answers..

I would like to tell you that I think you are an amazingly strong person for having the courage to come out and talk about it, I can't imagine how hard this has been for you. I applaud you, and wish you the best. <3
 
i am qualified : )
SUE THE SHIT OUT OF THEM R YOU KIDDING............
that man made you suffer for so many years i believe someone needs to pay for that.
 
It depends on what you feel is necessary for you to move forward with your life.

It sounds like this hasn't been easy for you to live with, and has taken a toll on your quality of life.

I think in due time, you will have a better idea of what you want to do regarding this situation, so I don't really want to lean one way or the other regarding this situation.

I remember seeing you post in The Front Page and I have always enjoyed reading your contributions to Bluelight. I am sorry that this happened to you and I hope everything works out for the best.
 
wow! I was really moved by ur post.I was molested abducted n a park at age 9.I know the pain.The misplaced shame-blame i put on myself not the perp.it took years to
get clear that i was a victim and not deserving. anyway please seek legal help.
 
i am truly sorry for the traumatic events that have happened to you
im sorry if this next statement offends anybody

but i have a deep hatred for religion in general because of these stories, and just how religion has changed the world over the past 2000 years
the crusades, the genocide, the rape, the bigotry, the halt on scientific pursuits, the interference of church in governmental/economic/cultual places
I choose to be atheist, and will proudly admit so
Catholic religion is soo ass backwards it makes my sick, adulterers and homosexuals are condemned to hell but the homosexual priest/rapist gets away free, and is probably not looked down upon because of his GREAT services to "the lord".

sorry for this rant, but i am deeply dissapointed in hearing this, and furthers my hatred for religion and this cold hearted place we call earth
 
Wow, that was a horrendous thing to happen to anyone, I'm so sorry.

I'm not in any way a legal professional but my advice would still be, absolutely, to sue the Church. At the very least they should pay for a complete course of therapy - by which I mean a session a week for a year, minimum. You feel like they're fobbing you off because they are fobbing you off.

I appreciate you are in a massively complex situation since your father is also part of the clergy, but you shouldn't let that stop you doing what needs to be done. If you live four hundred miles away now then there's no reason why his reputation would be affected. But you absolutely must fight for some sort of compensation. I doubt anyone can ever really find true closure after an experience like this, but you certainly won't if you let them get away with it like they have done so far. I would suggest your first port of call is a the citizens advice bureau. They will give free legal advice at the very least. After that you need to see about a solicitor and start writing a few letters - the priest who was there when your abuser admitted what he had done is your first contact. You should write to him and explain you intend to sue for money for therapy and that you need his statement to help you to get it. With his support you have an extremely good chance of winning any case you decide to bring. If you can't get his support, you need to think about other types of evidence you could use. Do you know anyone else who suffered at the hands of the priest? Or is there anyone else you talked to at that time?

If legal options fail or seem too difficult, you could write to the local diocese and threaten to publish your story in the local, or even national, newspaper. Which you would be able to do completely anonymously, even local newspapers are bound by law to respect the privacy of their sources. However this is something you should do only after you have exhausted legal options.

Somebody above has already said that it took a lot of courage to come and admit - even on an anonymous internet forum - what has happened to you. I'll second that, it DOES take courage. Now you have to see if you can take it a little further. Remember that you are 100% in the right and that you were the victim of a crime, pure and simple. That guy was a criminal and a grade A cunt and that's all there is too it. The fact that he was respected in the community means nothing, it merely shows how utterly in the dark the community were. Generally that's how it is with criminals of this nature, the only people who know are bullied into saying nothing and feeling isolated and alone. This means no-one ever finds the truth. But if this guy did it to you then he probably also did it to others - which means there are other people out there now going though the same things as you, waiting and hoping for someone to step forward and start to uncover the truth. You can and should be that person. I wish you the best of luck.


By the way, one final question for you if it's alright. I'd like to know, coming as you do from a religious family, are you yourself religious? Or have your experiences made you an atheist?
 
dhcdavid I am so sorry to hear of the horrific things you have been through, it absolutely breaks my heart :(
Some people in this thread have mentioned suing the church, while there are potential positives to doing so, e.g. perhaps better chance of reaching closure on the matter, if you go through with a lawsuit you will need to be prepared for it to bring up painful memories and how difficult a process it will be for you. You will need to weigh up whether the emotional pain of going through the court case will be worth it compared to what you're going through now. I'm not saying it will or it won't because I'm not you and I don't know what you've been through. But you'll need to consider all that before you decide what to do.

Either way, all of that aside, you should definitely continue on with psychiatric sessions and counselling. If it's too insulting to you that the church is paying for the psychiatric services, then is it possible for you to pay for it on your own? For having been through something as traumatising as this you really should continue therapy so that you can hopefully come to some peace about it in time.

Good luck, and keep us updated of your progress if you like <3
 
Wow, that's terrible bro but it sounds like you are a strong person for dealing with it. I think you should seriously consider talking to a psychologist to help you deal with it mentally, and you should also know that this is in no way your fault, you are the victim here.


Please talk to a psychologist and keep your head up pal!
 
I think if you wanted to, you could sue the shit out of the church.

If I were in your position, I would probably attempt to sue the fuck out of them.

Money doesn't buy happiness, but revenge does.
 
Here is a link http://www.snapnetwork.org/ Its a network of people who have suffered similar traumas. Big breakthroughs come about for many people by sharing there story with people who have been there.
 
Thankyou so much to everyone who took the time to read my post and especial thanks to all the Bluelighters who responded to my post.

Tbh, my awful experiences at the hands of the perpertrator priest and the associated negligence-related offences/mistakes at the hands of the Vicar and wider Church of England hierarchy haven't made much differences to my religious views or lack thereof.

To the posters who recommended I prosecute I am hesitant for two important reasons: firstly, I am in no financial position to be able to retain the services of a good lawyer and secondly, I am extremely reticent to persue a legal case against the Church of England because I don't wish my identity to be revealed to either my family or the wider public via any media interest in this case.

Does anyone know if solicitors in England would ever consider representing someone like myself on a "no win, no fee" basis" or whether legal aid would cover the legal costs for a case such as this?

And also does anyone know if I would be able to anonymously bring a case against the church?

To b4rd: I liked your post and your message. I wholeheartedly agree with you.

To Enki: thankyou for your link. I'd never heard of this organisation before and have visited their site several times and have been most impressed with what I read. Thankyou for bringing them to my attention.

Finally, thankyou once again to everyone who posted in response to my post: despite the awfully high prevalence of similar cases all over the world, I still feel very uneasy about bringing up my experiences with most people due to the stigma which is still attached to sexual abuse and especially to how people view those who've experienced sexual abuse....

I really hope that soon the enormous veil of secrecy and cover-up which currently hangs over the whole subject of sexual abuse within churches across the world by religious ministers and priests - whether Catholic, protestant or other denomination - will be lifted and that in the future ALL cases are criminally prosecuted.

I'm convinced that if serious numbers of perpertors of sexual abuse in churches - AS WELL AS their bosses who collude in any way to cover-up their crimes - start being agressively prosecuted and going to jail in large numbers in the future, that this will act as a most effective deterrent to any other would-be abusers working within churches across the globe.

But I remain pessimistic......
 
I feel sorry that you had to go through that. It just shows you the kind of world we live in. Makes you think twice about religion as well.
 
Being that the age of consent in England is 16 source I believe your case would best rely on the fact that the person was in a position of trust, which would raise the age of consent to 18.

Strictly from a legal perspective, if you wish to pursue that angle.
 
Being that the age of consent in England is 16 source I believe your case would best rely on the fact that the person was in a position of trust, which would raise the age of consent to 18.

Strictly from a legal perspective, if you wish to pursue that angle.

Thankyou for that.
 
GET A LAWYER

and you SHOULD NOT give a fuck about that career, u should fuck his life up, hasnt ur life been fucked enough?

it's time for pay back, and idk why ur even questoning it

also, idk why u care what happens to your father, like they weren't there for u, ur his god dam kid and he didnt give a fuck...i couldnt imagine my own parents saying something like they did after the truth came out (how they say u embarrist the family and put a bad name on the preist)

u deserve so much from the "church"

call an attorny NOW! i wouldnt wait any longer.
 
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I feel sorry that you had to go through that. It just shows you the kind of world we live in. Makes you think twice about religion as well.

makes me think a million time about religion

iv been thinking twice my hole life even before all these allogations became common knowledge

religions a crock a shit...passing out dishes for money..
like i know the world runs on money and everything is for money, but hell, even the churches? when i first found out as a child that churches did this i was so confused.

only good thing about religion is that it keeps people sane/happy, for obvious reasons
 
This is awful, dhcdavid, and I'm terribly sorry you had to go through such a traumatic set of experiences.

As others have said, I would get a competent psychiatrist and competent lawyer, in that order, and sooner rather than later. I would go to intensive therapy and work together with my attorney to make sure this priest is never able to do this to anyone else. It is also possible that others may come forward who went through the same thing with the priest that you did.

I can't offer any legal advice on this, but please talk to a lawyer that can. It is possible that there is a technicality or 10 that could make this a triable offense, particularly if you are willing to testify.

My best to you however you choose to proceed. Know that however awful our past, it need not determine our future if we are willing to make the effort to thrive. And please stick with us. You're a valued member of this community and those of us who have noticed (many I am sure) would be crushed to lose you.

It will get better from here.
 
You don't need to get a lawyer, you just need to go to the police. If you ring the station and ask to speak to someone about a case of sexual abuse they will send someone round. You will be entitled to legal aid but seeing as you are the prosecutor not defendant you don't need to be too paranoi about speaking to them without legal representative. They will have records on their previous involvement in this case which will add weight to your allegations.

Actually you wouldn't be the prosecutor, it would be the police aka the state aka Regina.
 
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