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I Love the Sound of Breaking Balls in the Morning: Unwanted Sexual Attention

ladydove said:
Exactly. I don't think we should fight over who gets it worse, men or females or what have you, we should be stepping up to acknowledge it is a universal thing that happens to everyone and breach it there.

Everyone deserves respect and compassion. Unfortunately there are a lot of people in the world who pray on the vunerable (and strong) and they are the issue.
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I have to admit that it took raising sons for me to understand the world through male eyes as well as my own female perspective. I feel lucky to have had the experience as it taught me a lot about the pressures on boys/men that can be every bit as limiting as those imposed on the psyches of girls.
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
If you get your knickers in a twist over the use of the word darling you need to grow up.
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I personally adore the word Darling.

Usually it isn't just being called darling though. Most people would probably ignore somebody saying that, and that's where things get heavy. "Why are you ignoring me? I just only called you darling. Why won't you answer me? You're an ugly whore/slut/bitch" it's often the actions after you've tried to gracefully step away from the situation that give people the bad opinion from something that was apparently a simple 'darling'.
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
If you get your knickers in a twist over the use of the word darling you need to grow up.
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Yeah, I wonder how Julie would have felt if this was her. This story was in my local paper a few years back.

In my Local M and S there's a pre op transgender working there. The shop is part of a larger shopping centre and one day she went to the ladies and the security guard dug her up and said "here pal, you'll have to use the gents". This was the fucking headline story. How dare those evil women be uncomfortable when someone with a penis tries to use their bogs.
 
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I am male, heterosexual, married and I don't have a single straight male friend. Bunch of guys together, drink and it's a pound to a penny that one will start making unacceptable comments about ladies. Now, I'm not someone who can let that pass and it usually involves them leaving. The BAD part is the rest of the group will try and convince you 'he's alright REALLY' so, while we see some change, it's nowhere nearly enough. Saying nothing makes you part of the problem. I'm an unapologetic philogynist. EVERYTHING bad that has happened to me was due to men and EVERYTHING good has come from ladies. If you see someone who looks great - tell her so. The WORST that can happen is you have another friend... and she will have friends.

When I was suicidal, a lady could see what a state I was in and invited me for tea. 7 years later, we call each other sister and brother (or, as wingman, I can be BF for the ones she doesn't like and brother to the ones she does). She went on to introduce me to mijn leifje, mine anima, my perfect other half.

Just as women's bodies are softer than men's, so their understanding is sharper - Christine de Pizan (The Book of the City of Ladies).

From the messages so far, I think the ladies have maybe 20 points IQ more... but maybe I'm scoring low.

'Penis and Vagina' - Well, I know a fair few trans people and they were just handed the wrong set of genitals at birth. Keep it simple for you 'medium sized mammal'

Oh, and while I'm at it, Lesbians don't need ANY guys 'help' to become heterosexual. No one can choose who they love.

I would hope that ladies can understand me offering them my seat on the bus or opening the door from them - I grew up with grandparents who taught me these things from being tiny. It's not intended as an insult, it's intended as a mark of respect.
 
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trip2themoon said:
Man: Penis, woman: Vagina. Simple biology.
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male: xy chromosomes, female: xx

i'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. it is a very iffy one that i wouldn't like to get into: both the transgender person's feelings and the whole 'sacred toilet gendering system' have to be considered here.
i think it was probably wrong for the trans person to automatically take it for granted that women would feel comfortable with it, but it's pretty unfair for a trans person to have to use a bathroom according to what their genitals look like. i mean, a trans person isn't exactly in a toilet to have a perve.

this thread has caught fire a bit though. i think julie started it with good intentions and some people have jumped down her throat a bit.
 
It's actually a bit more complicated than that Smacky. I've read a fair few articles on the subject. Far too complex for me to recount.

It's not all black and white as we all know.

IMO on the womens toilet issue, We all have fecking stalls. Unless you're inviting someone in the stall with you, your privacy is just fine. Get a grip people. The stall is the only place of privacy. The rest of the time you're looking at twats doing their make up in the mirror and spraying perfume around the place so much so that you can't breathe. Yeah, great place to perve. :| The smell of cheap perfume, shite talk between girls and the smell of urine I'm sure works everyone up into a frenzy.

I think some people need to get out more and stop watching porn and reading the mirror.

Mens toilets would be the worst IMO. Straight or gay or inbetween your junk is out there for all to see. Fuck that!

Seriously, what do people actually think you can see and what transpires in womens loos? I'm actually really curious to know!
 
I use the women's toilets all the time. They tend to be dirtier than mens bogs, but there's always toilet roll and there is less urine lashed around the place.

Once in a blue moon somebody says something like "HEY! That's the LADIES toilet" and I just shrug and say "It's a TOILET".

Disabled toilets are king though, they are fucking huge and clean and serene, wit5h useful vaulting bars beside the throne; and you never get some disabled guy walloping the door and going "OI, you cunt, your not fucking DISABLED", which is nice because that would be awkward.

Unisex toilets are the way to go. The women get peer pressure to pick up used jamrags and the men get peer pressure to lift up the fucking seat.
 
I'm with you on that one Jude, Make them all unisex. Once you're in a stall it's not like they can "see" you!

It's not even as though I could say "just you men, make sure you lift the seat" In the womens loo we have the "hover'ers" Cheers hen, you didn't want to get piss on your ass but you're the fucking reason I have yours on mine now ya clatty tramp! Just EWWWWW!
 
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