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I Fucked an Escort

It's hard for me to understand how these whores think their company is worth money.
Specially since most escorts are low quality used up rags with only one personality trait which is lust for meth.
I make women pay me.
I'll fuck an escort and charge her. If she doesn't pay i will smash those kneecaps with hammer.
What you guys think about that?
 
DeadManWalkin' said:
It's hard for me to understand how these whores think their company is worth money.
Specially since most escorts are low quality used up rags with only one personality trait which is lust for meth.
I make women pay me.
I'll fuck an escort and charge her. If she doesn't pay i will smash those kneecaps with hammer.
What you guys think about that?
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lol WOW......How do you keep 'em off you?

The way some of them are looking, they should be paying us 😁
 
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dalpat077 said:
Morning all.

Geez. I don't know if it's these forums or this COVID-19 lockdown shit or the events of the past year or so: but man I'm starting to remember things from WAY back that have happened during my "career" i.e. things that I've never given a second thought to until now! Lol!

Based on some of the latest posts (in no particular order)...

Yeh. A real and even darker side of prostitution is underage prostitution. That's where I think everybody here draws the line. It's a travesty (and that's a gross understatement). I don't have any first hand experience with this i.e. knowledge only based on what I've read/heard/seen on TV. But man: it's the worst and how anybody (the traffickers and pimps) could make money out of that is beyond anything that my brain is able to conceive. This being said: some of these girls are tough man. I watched a documentary on Al Jazeera once (I think it was Al Jazeera anywy i.e. long time ago) when this young girl had been pimped by her parents, not less, to support the family. But somehow she made it through, got and education, and if I recall correctly went on to be an famous and well known activist (I just really don't remember her name right now). That sure takes guts and perseverance and a special type of person. Unfortunately this would definitely be a huge exception rather than the norm lets face it. But respect to her (whoever she is) and anybody else that's been through this.

Somebody also mentioned something above that sort of reminded me of something. All those times I picked somebody up just to have a few drinks with and do a few lines or rocks with: I always remember feeling pretty sad afterward thinking what a shame it is that I never had enough or a good enough friend that I could do this shit with and had to pay for the company. I remember that feeling well today for some reason. Never been one to have many friends and yet I'm an extrovert to a large degree. Don't believe I'm too shit looking either (Lol!). Just never been one of those lucky enough to have been able to walk into a club or pub and just pick somebody up (used to have a friend who'd be in the bathroom with somebody within five minutes of arriving anywhere). A friend once told me it's because of the way I carry myself and dress (the white collar and tie type). And the way I used to handle booze. Used to be a big joke between us i.e. he said your (my) problem is that you walk into a place with an aura, dressed to the nines, survey the place like you own it, walk up to the bar and order a drink, and that's when things go pear shaped. Drink arrives and it's gone in two seconds flat (whatever it was e.g. double rum and coke or whatever it was at the time) and then order another one! And that was an "impression killer" right there! Lol! And taking somebody out to dinner was usually a nightmare i.e. I'd be on my third drink while she was still taking her first sip of wine! Lol! What can I say. That's who I am (was). And in looking back now after all these years: fuck them. At least I enjoyed myself and didn't just sit there eating expensive food and sitting with a mouthful of teeth! Lol! Never abusive or rude either i.e. just a good sense of humor (well I thought so anyway). Couple of laughs was the expectation. Nothing more.

Also thought of something else this morning (and oh boy I can just see the feminists coming out on this one! Lol!). There is indeed a school of though that goes something along the lines of what's the difference between hiring a hooker or spending hundreds of USD on expensive drinks and dinners in the PARTIAL hope that it's going to lead to something else? Lol! I'm not one of those that's ever taken somebody out, paid for dinner, and then expected something in return. That I can honestly say (although I think that was in the old days and somehow as the years have gone by guys have fucked that up to the extent where woman will not even let them pay for dinner nowadays for fear of this expectation that's somehow crept in over the years). Not going to lie: sometimes it would have been nice. But wasn't expected or a quid pro quo type situation. Fuck. I was besotted with somebody for well over two years. She had a particular penchant for prawns (some call them shrimps) and crayfish and champagne. Two years of expensive dinners and fancy restaurants and the closest I ever came was sitting next to her in the car on the way to and from dinner. I'm convinced to this day that she's the reason prawns and crayfish almost became extinct! Lol! It was the weirdest of "relationships" i.e. eventually got the feeling she wanted nothing to do with me but was quite fine being seen with me and eating every crayfish in the sea! Lol! Quite funny actually: what "cured" me of her was that one night after dinner she asked if she could borrow some money from me (short on rent or some bullshit excuse). I dropped the cash off the next day and that was the end of that i.e. never bothered with her again. Weirdest thing ever.

Lastly (dunno why I'm pouring my heart out this morning! Lol!). I remember picking somebody up just to spend some time with and do the usual shit i.e. some lines and rocks. Took her to my place and she made us coffee and then asked the weirdest thing i.e. asked if she could take a cooking pot of mine home as she didn't have a pot to cook things in. Of course I said sure no problem. When time was up I took her home and she then asked me if I had some more money for some more rocks so I gave her some money. She told me to wait in the car and I thought "what's this all about" (and it wasn't the most savory of neighborhoods either). Not two minutes later she came running out of her place (she was living with and cooking and cleaning for her fucking foreign pimp who was also a dealer) to give me half the stuff she'd just bought for me to take home for myself. Never forget that (well I had until now anyway). Wonder what happened to her? I remember she had a uni. degree and I guess somehow ended up getting too involved in the drug scene and, well, one thing led to another and that's what she was doing and where she'd ended up by the time I met her. Sad.

Anyway. Maybe when it comes to shit like this I've got "sucker" written all over my face. Dunno. But for sure: I know I've only been decent to these individuals, treated them with respect as I would anybody else, and, well, who knows, maybe made just those few hours better for them when they were with with me. If that's what I did indeed accomplish: well so be it. That's good enough for me. For sure I no longer feel shame for meeting these people. With hindsight and knowing what I know now (now having no friends at all since all the money and fancy cars and parties and booze are no more): one or two of these people probably had better morals and principals than quite a few "normal" people I've had the pleasure (or displeasure) of meeting or dealing with over the years that's for sure.

Oh well. Not the most uplifting of posts for first thing in the morning. But enjoyed telling the stories anyway.
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Quality post man - you make me think of so many things.

I used to see this girl who was obviously prostituting herself and dealing drugs out of absolute necessity. In the beginning I would just see her for the drugs and we would get high together and eventually we had high sex a couple of times for which I paid her standard fee. Then one days she texted me in desperation asking if I could pay her a visit because she’d been robbed and had no money even to eat. I was actually overseas at the time but decided to wire her $100 through an instant transfer service to get her out of trouble.

Thereafter I was able to construct a reassuring fantasy (maybe) in my head that she was a friend in reduced circumstances that I was helping. I am not a rich guy, but I am not poor either - so I framed my relationship with her as a guy who’d been lucky in life helping out a friend who’d been unlucky in life. I started visiting her to get high with drugs I’d got somewhere else and then not having sex and sometimes visiting and having sex without paying directly for it but always asking if she needed help with the bills or whatever. In the end she got at least her working fee out of me for services rendered but I could feel that I wasn’t paying for the sex when it happened. Maybe I was and maybe I wasn’t but the whole relationship seemed like a non-abusive win-win in which neither side was using or taking advantage of the other. Now would she have spent time with me had had all the money she needed and no drug habit? I don’t know and can never know - but it’s kind of a moot question because reality is what it is and we go crazy ruminating on hypotheticals all the time.
 
Atelier3 said:
Quality post man - you make me think of so many things.

I used to see this girl who was obviously prostituting herself and dealing drugs out of absolute necessity. In the beginning I would just see her for the drugs and we would get high together and eventually we had high sex a couple of times for which I paid her standard fee. Then one days she texted me in desperation asking if I could pay her a visit because she’d been robbed and had no money even to eat. I was actually overseas at the time but decided to wire her $100 through an instant transfer service to get her out of trouble.

Thereafter I was able to construct a reassuring fantasy (maybe) in my head that she was a friend in reduced circumstances that I was helping. I am not a rich guy, but I am not poor either - so I framed my relationship with her as a guy who’d been lucky in life helping out a friend who’d been unlucky in life. I started visiting her to get high with drugs I’d got somewhere else and then not having sex and sometimes visiting and having sex without paying directly for it but always asking if she needed help with the bills or whatever. In the end she got at least her working fee out of me for services rendered but I could feel that I wasn’t paying for the sex when it happened. Maybe I was and maybe I wasn’t but the whole relationship seemed like a non-abusive win-win in which neither side was using or taking advantage of the other. Now would she have spent time with me had had all the money she needed and no drug habit? I don’t know and can never know - but it’s kind of a moot question because reality is what it is and we go crazy ruminating on hypotheticals all the time.
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Those people suck you dry if given chance. They're brutal and you're lucky if you got out of that situation without losing much.
Men have this stupid saviour complex for women, but it's no good specially if you're associating with crooked and low quality women like these. '
You reframed it in your head to make it seem like more noble relationship.
 
dalpat077 said:
I told you before in another post: I like your style! Lol! Fuck knows. If I was a cunt like you (I know you'll take that as a compliment) (and it is meant as a compliment by the way) I'm pretty sure things would have turned out WAY better for me than they have! Lol! That old saying of "the nice guy always gets fucked" has a lot of truth to it! Lol!
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Yes, this mindset many men these days, specially ones raised by single mothers, is that "I act good and i get rewards!". It's disgusting. Like a fucking dog. No, in this world you have to take what you want and defend it. This ain't a communist utopia.
 
dalpat077 said:
Well as has happened before and in spite of my compliment above: I'm not sure I agree with you. Particularly in @Atelier3's case. I can identify with him and everything he said in his post. Maybe your are right about things. Probably you are for the most part. But c'mon. Sometimes it doesn't hurt to do something nice for somebody even if they're simply pulling your chain. I also knew one that always had every hard luck story known to man. But with her it was obvious i.e. it was just a way to get money out of people. Fortunately it was through a friend of a friend that I met her so our interactions were limited to telephonic conversations now and then and she never got a dime out of me in spite of her granny dying and having to bury her or her house being repossessed or the dog was sick or she'd fallen and had to go to the doctor and had no money (I'm sure you get the picture! Lol!). One of the few times in my life when I was "wise" to what was going on anyway. Still. Enjoyed our chats..'
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You're right about things and i may should have formed my sentences better.
I do people favors sometimes, but it's mostly as a thanks for something i respect or something like that.
I'm a great man to my woman and i take care of her. But she is not an escort and she accepts the feminine role in the relationship, she enjoys it and acts according to it.
I'm very good to her and she said that she didn't even think that i was capable of stuff like that when she got to know me at first.
She is a quality woman and I act according to that. Of course i help her if she asks to.
I meant the mentality that you're scared to say "no" to somebody. These doormats who justify their behavior as "At least i'm not hurting anyone."
But as you can't be good if you can't be bad, it's same thing here. You can't be virtuous if you're weak and not hurting anyone. You're just weak. If you're capable of it and decide not to, its a virtue.
 
One of the points of my story is that I acted true to myself and was happy with how the situation played out. I got the kind of company and experience I was after plus I got to feel a bit caring and generous while I was at it - and in the fucked up world we live in that’s a nice feeling. Whether the girl actually appreciated it or was screwing my like a stupid fool kind of doesn’t matter and I’ll never know anyway. I never felt like a saviour or a white knight - but I did feel like a nice human being for a while in the middle of a totally fucked up drug binge so that when I came out the other side and into sobriety I didn’t feel regret or shame for anything I’d done. I felt kinda happy and that was worth whatever small amount of money I might have thrown away.
 
Here's the icing on the cake to seal the deal: I'm mildly mentally retarded. I've never been given an IQ test by a clinical psychologist, but I'd wager that my IQ would be in the 70s range. Seriously, I don't even know how to use the fucking multi-quote feature on this site. Mentally retarded guys like me don't get girls wet. Mentally retarded guys like me are looked down upon and scoffed at. I am bottom tier trash. Ugly, social inept, and mentally retarded. How many mentally retarded guys have girlfriends? I'd say about 0.3%. Mentally retarded guys aren't on girls to-fuck list. I can't even hold a conversation due to my mental retarded-ness. Tell me people, do you see retards getting it on with girls without paying for it? No? I didn't think so ...
 
Michael_25 said:
Here's the icing on the cake to seal the deal: I'm mildly mentally retarded. I've never been given an IQ test by a clinical psychologist, but I'd wager that my IQ would be in the 70s range. Seriously, I don't even know how to use the fucking multi-quote feature on this site. Mentally retarded guys like me don't get girls wet. Mentally retarded guys like me are looked down upon and scoffed at. I am bottom tier trash. Ugly, social inept, and mentally retarded. How many mentally retarded guys have girlfriends? I'd say about 0.3%. Mentally retarded guys aren't on girls to-fuck list. I can't even hold a conversation due to my mental retarded-ness. Tell me people, do you see retards getting it on with girls without paying for it? No? I didn't think so ...
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Average IQ of Somalia is 68.
Average IQ of Australian aborginals is 62.
You're smart man compared to many.
I see full blown retards getting pussy all the time, even i do and i'm really retarded as fuck my dad hit me when i was a child because i'm such a fucking retard.
 
dalpat077 said:
Hey.

I don't like what you're saying or the way you're berating yourself. Believe me when I tell you that there is somebody out there for you. Of that there is no question in my mind. And I'll tell you something else: WHEN you find that someone she'll be worth her weight in Gold. Because for sure she won't be some self righteous, gold digging, manipulative whore who thinks her shit don't stink (unless of course you're loaded with money in which case you may have a problem like everyone else! Lol!).

I cannot comment on your statistics as it's not something I've ever thought about or have experience with. All I can tell you is that it will happen. Maybe just not as soon as you like is all. In the meantime: make and maintain good friendships with genuine people (even if it just be members of this forum for now). Hell. Who knows. Post a bit and make some friends here. For all you know: one of the female members may take a liking to you as a person and be in contact. You never know. Stranger things have happened.

I guess is if sex is a big issue (not sure how old you are) well, then, there's always the option of the subject matter at hand. Nothing wrong there. Just treat them with a little respect and don't let them take advantage of you. And of course: take precautions. But your time will come I assure you.

I'm lucky (I guess) in the sense that I'm 55 and not in a good place so couldn't give a flying fuck about sex (well alright: I'd help Britney Spears out if it were on offer but that's about it i.e. suppose I could put myself out for that! Lol!).

But there is a flip side to this too. There's no rule in the book that says that everyone has to have a partner. Sometimes a really really good friend is worth way more than a sexual partner or a relationship. Believe me: relationships come with their own shit. And in some cases (most cases in my case) ain't even worth the sex let alone anything else.

But stop putting yourself down. That's already causing a problem for you and it's not necessary. Woman are attracted to confidence (IQ and intelligence is no yardstick to be used as a measure of yourself). And it's not just you so don't go thinking you're odd. Me: I believe I'm pretty good looking, am confident, and have (usually up until now) had loads of money and have lived a life of excess. And even I have never been able to just walk into a pub or club or bar and pick up some good looking stranger. I've always had to mission for it (cost me a fortune on drinks and dinners). On the other hand: I've had friends who, to me, are as ugly as sin and they can score in a club or pub within the first five minutes of being there (for reasons to this day are beyond me).

And here's something else: over the years I've noticed (here anyway) it's not that easy anymore to meet people. Those good 'ol days ('80's and '90's) are well over. People were more social and outgoing. Nowadays (I find anyway) people are more interested in sitting chatting on their fucking mobile phones to the person sitting next to them in the restaurant or club or pub than they are in actually going out to have a good time and meet people. So there's that too that you're having to contend with.

Anyway. Believe it or not: you will have friends and contacts here if you put in the effort. And you never know what could happen from there. And even if nothing happens: you've at least got people to chat with. Sometimes that's worth more than a fuck (most times actually).

One last anecdote that may make you feel better (and I've seen this in practice):

Some of the hottest chicks I've ever seen are involved with the ugliest and dumbest fuck of guys imaginable. The reason: those guys don't give a fuck about going up to a good looking woman and starting to chat with her. It's the ones that think they're something special (like me! Lol!) that are too shy to try that thinking that "she'll never be interested in me but rather in some muscle man" type of thing. I really do believe there's some truth to this because I've seen it with my own eyes more times than you can imagine! Lol!
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Thanks for the detailed, informative reply man. I guess I'm berating myself due to years of celibacy and rejection not just from women, but men as well. Every rejection, every quizzical look I get from others when I try to have a conversation has eroded my self-esteem. After a decade and a half, that's only natural (well at least I think). Constant strange looks from others, condescending looks and so forth makes me ask myself, "What the hell is wrong with me? Why can't I seem capable of forming normal relationships -- both platonic friendships and romantic relationships.

I'm getting old. I'm now 35 years old. I work a shitty 9-to-5 office job that is dreary as hell. I have limited contact with my coworkers, and that suits my personality just fine. Every day is just ground hog day. Wake up, work, come home, watch Netflix, browse the internet and read ... I would like to socialize but have no idea how to go about it. I suffer from social anxiety (it's been diagnosed). All my conversations are stilted; they don't flow naturally. I often pause a lot during a convo because I always think to myself, "No. Don't say that or he/she will think you're stupid or a weirdo ... ", hence I say little.

I want to have friendships. I want to go out during weekends with friends and have a few beers and witty banter. But it just doesn't seem to be on the cards for me. As I wrote, I'm 35 now and I think I've past the point of no return. Most 12-year-old kids are more socially competent than I am. Oh well, it is what it is. Just because I can't get a girlfriend or form any type of relationship isn't the end of the world. On the other hand, humans are social animals ... so .... I guess it's a contradiction. Most men my age are married, and most women, who I would date, would be in there late 20s or early 30s. However, here is the problem: the women in this age range are by and large already married or in a committed relationship. I'm kind too old to date. It's not like I can date 20-year-old girls, since I'm far too old for them. It's a conundrum. I don't blame girls for not liking me, though. I understand why they don't. I, however, like girls. I like girls a lot :) So you can see why I have this longing and frustration. Again, as I wrote, it would even be great just to make some male friends, too! It would make life more bearable and open up other opportunities.

I think this post is a little long-winded and I'm not sure of its intent. I think I simply need a place to vent my feelings as I don't really have any other outlet. Thanks for listening, guys. :-)
 
Nahh. Your going hella hard on yourself. I cop hookers too. Shit I prefer them. I don’t have to worry about them thinking it more than what it is, don’t have to wine and dine with the chance of not getting any. Growing up I knew I was attracted to guys it wasn’t until when I turned 21 I had sex with a woman. I watch a lot of porn and their was this one amateur vid of a black guy, missionary style plowing away at her kitty. I would fantasize it was me in the video or imagine me fucking a bbw like him. Right then and there I knew I had to try it. But I just wanted some action lol. I didn’t want to play a woman for her kitty when I can throw a few bucks for convenience. I only hook up with woman when I’m paying. I feel it’s way better. I mean those girls know what it is. My first hooker I lasted two pumps and I used a rubber. Can you imagine $80 for less than 2 minutes? But she wasn’t my last. Keep your head up. Remember if you really wanted to get it free just change your approach or post on the activity section of Cl for a couple seeking adult friend finder.
 
dalpat077 said:
But stop putting yourself down. That's already causing a problem for you and it's not necessary. Woman are attracted to confidence
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How the fuck am I supposed to display confidence when all I have received -- to date -- is rejection and ridicule from the female gender? Girls think I'm a complete fucking joke and laugh about me behind my back. That kind of makes it hard to be confident. You gain confidence and self-esteem by achieving goals. I haven't achieved fucking anything in my life. Hence I describe myself as a loser.
 
I'm kind of confused about the 70 IQ comment, I don't know many people who are as articulate and self aware as poster and say they have a 70 IQ.

Anyway, women are everywhere, especially around work/office areas, you can't swing a dead cat. I guess that's not available right now, but where I live they are out exercising, sidewalk dining, that type of thing.

I have no idea how to pick up women either, but I dated lots and lots, different ages, background, race, ethnicity, body type, one tranny (the only woman who wouldn't get out of my car unless I kissed her - the only kiss I ever got doing that kind of dating btw), marital background, kids, whatever. At the end of the day it comes down to the person, not external things like looks, IQ, age, race, religion, substance abuse. Those differences you can deal with, and may even be the reason why you are attracted to them though you may not know it consciously (if that makes sense - what I'm talking about is healing).

It takes some patience for sure, but like any good vulture will tell you, everybodys gotta die some time.
 
The Axe said:
I'm kind of confused about the 70 IQ comment, I don't know many people who are as articulate and self aware as poster and say they have a 70 IQ.

Anyway, women are everywhere, especially around work/office areas, you can't swing a dead cat. I guess that's not available right now, but where I live they are out exercising, sidewalk dining, that type of thing.

I have no idea how to pick up women either, but I dated lots and lots, different ages, background, race, ethnicity, body type, one tranny (the only woman who wouldn't get out of my car unless I kissed her - the only kiss I ever got doing that kind of dating btw), marital background, kids, whatever. At the end of the day it comes down to the person, not external things like looks, IQ, age, race, religion, substance abuse. Those differences you can deal with, and may even be the reason why you are attracted to them though you may not know it consciously (if that makes sense - what I'm talking about is healing).

It takes some patience for sure, but like any good vulture will tell you, everybodys gotta die some time.
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IQ isn't real. It's called experience.
 
I had to chime in here and just tell you I’m 48 y/o divorced guy. And since a very young age I have been fuking hookers escorts my friends sisters, mothers aunts, ALOT of skanky nasty tasty erotic wicked fun.

when you mentioned your gf, I thought wow maybe she’s shy and not sure of herself. You should both go out and try to get some guy to bang the shit out of her while you watch. You may get turned on

swinging lifestyle is fun and lots of weird sex to go around

I have had Escorts and hookers, dancers, as customers, acquaintances and it’s just part of the life I experienced. Don’t get down on yourself. Maybe I’m just anti establishment and don’t care what other people think

Try to enjoy yourself life isn’t guaranteed. But death is!!!!
 
I’ve been married once and have had several long term relationships from maybe 3-5 years. Some of these relationships were very happy and only ended due to different values or life dreams rather than any anger or animosity. Until about 6-9 months ago I was really active on Tinder and Bumble and dating lots of women in the belief I really needed to be in a relationship. I also used them when I Regularly travelled in Asia for lots of local hookups. But now, at age 50, and having spent the last half a year or so combining drugs and hookers as regularly and as often as I can afford, I’ve really begun to honestly question whether I need to be in a relationship.

The companionship and physical intimacy I get from my regular hooker friends has developed to then point it feels quasi-girlfriend like (obviously with money but with some genuine affection and understanding on both sides. Then the rest of my life is mine to live without the kind of anxiety being with someone 24/7 has tended to provoke in me. Plus, I avoid the whole hassle of having to find someone who will first accept and then be able to live with my mental health quirks and issues. For day to day social interaction I have a pretty good rapport with my dog, and also with the regular people at the dog park where we go each day.

I’m beginning to think that, at 50, this might be the pattern of the rest of my life and I will never partner up again with someone full-time. In fact, for the first time in years, I have completely stopped looking for someone and have not opened Tinder or Bumble in months. I do wonder how much my drug habit influences this line of thinking though and whether I might be more desirous of full-time company were I completely sober. I know that deep down, I am terrified of being completely alone in my old age so I fear the time when my now aged parents pass on and my kids move out of home and start doing without me. I might need someone then.
 
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The Axe said:
My wife doesn't drink, smoke, use any drugs, or allow cursing. Basically, that's what I need. I honestly don't know what would happen if she's not there.
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Yeah my last long-term girlfriend was like that. She hated drugs because her abusive ex had become a chemsex tweaker after they were together 8 years. The whole time i was with her I was on the straight and narrow although I told her my using history. Mentally healthiest period of my life actually.
 
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