How to IV Morphine Sulfate pills safer

[SethTheBest]

*Notice: This thread is meant to show you how to IV these pills SAFER. This does not mean it is safe to do, IVing any drug is not safe unless professionally administered. Keep in mind that IVing opiates greatly increases risk of Overdosing.


This is for the round Morphine sulfates er or sr. The pill is round with "m" inside a square on one side and a 10 -100 on the other. Really you want to do about 50 - 100. I would try less my first time. I did a 100 my first time and it was crazy, needles all up my brain and back. KEEP IN MIND I HAVE A VERY HIGH TOLERANCE from the past four years and I have not done these in a long time.

So its not just as easy as crushing, mixing and shooting. The trick here is using a little known technique, many druggies keep this technique secret because it works for so many pills. Ill teach you how to do it right now.

If you try to crush up this pill and add water to it in a spoon, it will turn into jelly. This is meant so that people dont inject this pill. NOW WHATEVER YOU DO, do not inject this jelly. I was so sick one time and did this and I almost died. I had an immense pain, and felt the chunky thing go through my body, I could tell where it was by the pain in different places, then felt it in my head and had a screaming headache then I passed out. Dont do that. This is why im telling people, if they must do this, do it this way, to be safe. And to all you haters, fuck you, I know an addicts mind, they have no reservations, so dont give me grief.

Ok, so take your pill and crush it up. Put it on a note card or paper with a crease on it and have it ready to pour it with one hand. Then get your spoon and put it on a counter with the round part of the spoon hanging off about an inch, place something heavy on the other side to weigh it down so you dont have to hold your spoon while cooking it. Now that your spoon is hanging on its own, put 1 and a half needles worth of water in the spoon (I think thats 1 1/2 ccs?). Then with your lighter in your left hand cook the water till it boils, then quickly when it starts boiling, with your other hand pour the powder in quickly, but in a slow 5 second pace, so not all at once.... leave the flame under the spoon until all of its poured in, wait 5 seconds and remove the flame. Now quickly throw your cotton in the spoon, on the edge of the water. (so not in the middle, place it on the metal slightly in the water and tilt your spoon while sucking up). This is because all that jelly will be at the bottom of your spoon. Thus u have seperated the jelly from the morphine. Dont try to get more out of it, just take the water. And there you go you should be good to go.

But one imprortant thing. This high is a very VERY STRONG PINS AND NEEDLES HIGH. It is an intense stinging of the receptors, so try a little amount at first. But dont worry if you feel this intense stinging youll be ok. Just fore-warning you.

-Seth

 

[sekio]

This isn't safe, the gel is not adequately filtered by a cotton filter. Micron filters are better, cold extraction would be best to avoid little blobs of molten pill binders.

 

[SethTheBest]

There is no gel when you do this, it is at the bottom, not in the water...

 

[brutus]

This should help you out. However, this way is probably the safer method but requires a bit of chemistry.

I'm not saying that injecting pills is anything close to being safe though.

 

[SethTheBest]

Yea, this is just to stop people from using the gel. Its just an easy way to do it and make it ALOT safer

 

[alasdairm]

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[The Dope Man]

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/615204-How-to-Iv-morphine-er-pills

 

[brighton]

this is gross. a better more well known 'secret' is micron filtering. sshhh

 

[tricomb]

The major tip for safer drug injection is using cold clean water without applying heat and running it through a micron filter.

Why you don't ever re-use needles:

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Why you don't apply heat:

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Written for opiophile, but decided I'd post it here as well
Introduction & Context
I recently attended a pill injection workshop in Australia, among the people at this workshop, there was a man called Dr. Bruno Raimondo, him and his team are running research into opioid pills such as OxyContin, MSContin and Subutex and the effectiveness of filtering. In the morphine forum I already summarized a document he did, I managed to obtain a copy of the slides he used at the presentation, although he has not released the formal version (which I will link to when he has) of the research, the slides he has emailed me are sufficient for the information people need to know.
Too long didn't read:
Don't heat pills, 2-3ml of water soaking your finely powdered pill, with a 1ml rinse through your filter (SHOULD be using a wheel filter) will give you the best results. Wheel filters are necessity they don't retain any drug (95-99% is let through, cotton filters let through less). Expect health problems down the road if you shoot cotton filtered pills.
Harms of pill injection
Injecting pills (or anything) can result in contaminants entering your body such as insoluble particles or bacteria and fungi. These things can irritate and inflame tissue and veins, cause infections in skin/muscle (granuloma, abscess). They can also result in local and systemic infection from the bacteria/fungi.

Insoluble and undissolved particles can cause microcirculation capillaries (5-10um) to become blocked, they clog up in the heart and lungs. Granulomas in the lungs are caused by inflammation which leads to scar tissue (fibrosis). Congmomerate masses lead to restrictive lung disease and pulmonary hypertension. The particles also reach other organs (liver, kidney etc).

Key particles in pills (OxyContin, MSContin, Subutex)

Other insoluble particles included are:
Magnesium stearate (5-30um)
Titanium dioxide (100um clumps) (ms, oxy)
Other particles that change form in heat are:
Stearyl alcohol MP is 59*C (ms, oxy)
Eudragit RS 30D clumps at >30*C (oxy)

All these particles cause problems in your heart, lungs and other organs, the chemicals that change form in heart are the reasons why pills should NOT be heated, and you will soon find out there is no advantage to heating.

Why pills shouldn't be heated

As you can see, of these images under a microscope, heating pill solutions cause enourmous particles to dissolve in the mix. These particles will pass through the filter (wheel or cotton) and recongeal, precipitating out in your filtered mix or veins.

Ok so I shouldn't heat, what about Rollie cigarette filter filtering (or cotton).

For comparison: MSContin rollies reduce particles >5um by 60%.

What about the drug retained?

For subutex 97% of the drug is returned in this process.
Drug is not retained in the filter after this, even if the filter is wet.
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Wheel filters (and why they rock!)
Here is the solution of two pills under a microscope before and after wheel filtering

But how many particles are removed by the wheel filters?

But what about drug recovery

For subutex drug recovery is 99%
*Note: One of the researches reminded me to say that when they first did these tests, their technique with wheel filters was poor, and that morphine recovery is more like 95-99%

So as you can see, using wheel filters removes all the particles that cause harm (basically), with a rinse of water after first filter, you can retain 95-99% of the drug (better then a cotton/rollie filter) while removing 99% of the particles that cause harm, and heating is generally a bad idea that does NOT help at all, and does more harm then good.
Note: Hand rolled cigarette filters filter to about 50um.

Another document for the national drug safety council, which focused mainly on morphine and wheel filters, also contains a lot of information. It is located here.

I also posted this in Australian drug discussion but was told to also post it here.

 

[phatass]

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