How to block excessive talkativeness of stimulants?

[tricomb]

Exercise more restraint when it comes to dosing. You're taking too much, simple as that.

Only do stims with other people on stims . Then u all have a deep conversation for hours.

Hah, if you can manage to get a word in!

 

[teological]

If you manage to not be able to start talking while feeling great with the inital rush from stimulants, you will have a better chance of controlling it whilst in the actual middle of the high. Sort of like the opening of the pandora's box if you will.

 

[Epsilon Alpha]

Do you know what happened to the Mind and Muscle regulars after the forum change up? Benson, Ex Dubio, Funk etc.

Edit: Apologies for going off topic but that jpg is funny and MeDieViL was a regular at the M&M forums.

I've got a few of them on Facebook and access to the private forum they tried to start. Most of them are really busy with work/school and have pretty much stopped posting anywhere. The neuroscience portion of the forum they started up is so dead it makes blacklight look like other drugs. It's pretty decent for more endocrine related topics though.

As for stim talkativeness what I found helped the most was setting frequent alarms on my phone to help break up possible conversations. Like one every 15 minutes works great for me.

 

[Middleway]

I used to take dex but it caused me a lot of problems. It worked great to relieve my anxiety and depression when I was "up" but the crash always left me wanting to redose. Is there a way I could smooth it out? It makes me too euphoric even at tiny 2.5mg doses. Clonazepam maybe...anything else?
Sorry, hope this isn't hijacking the thread

 

[Ex Dubio]

I've got a few of them on Facebook and access to the private forum they tried to start. Most of them are really busy with work/school and have pretty much stopped posting anywhere. The neuroscience portion of the forum they started up is so dead it makes blacklight look like other drugs. It's pretty decent for more endocrine related topics though.

This, mostly.

I'm banned from M&M at this point, so there's no going back I'm afraid. And yeah, graduate school is a bitch.

There's some preliminary work on moving the private forum toward slightly more open access, in an attempt to revive the neuroscience section therein, but only time will tell if that goes anywhere.

All that said, I'm still available to answer questions via PM.

 

[milfhunter]

Haha wow, this is an awesome thread, Medievil, although it's kinda like asking "how do I prevent getting stoned when smoking MJ?" lol

 

[blight12]

I used to take dex but it caused me a lot of problems. It worked great to relieve my anxiety and depression when I was "up" but the crash always left me wanting to redose. Is there a way I could smooth it out? It makes me too euphoric even at tiny 2.5mg doses. Clonazepam maybe...anything else?
Sorry, hope this isn't hijacking the thread

You weren't prescribed that for anxiety where you? If so I want your doctor.

 

[MeDieViL]

Haha

Those high induced posts on bluelight are when im really high, i only post online when im high and sit on my computer, but otherwise i cant really get stims to make me focussed or motivated much, they just induce talkativeness, even 10mg dex or so, alot less offcourse then yes.

Im seeing my pdoc soon as im back in belguim with decent medical care, ill be looking into some add on therapy for ADHD.

 

[MeDieViL]

Haha wow, this is an awesome thread, Medievil, although it's kinda like asking "how do I prevent getting stoned when smoking MJ?" lol

I actually think thats a good question, makes a meal nicer and going to bed would be alot easier too.

Either way as a more advanced user i tought ppl would assume i know its not a matter of taking too much lol, thats a no brainer, still ended into a good thread.

 

[LOGan1314]

^ This kind of thinking led to *read my previous post*

Uhh...since we are the exact same people with the exact same brain? :/

I talk more when I am not on stimulants due to the mental practice of limiting excessive blabber while stimulated.

 

[foolsgold]

wont get the best of reply's this most likely , but i found dropping a sledding type e helps a shed load or taking a couple of etziolam takes the talkativeness away and leaves me just as functional as without that's for the etzi not the pill that mashes you up then leaves me not wanting to talk the legs of a donkey

 

[Psychlone Jack]

Instead of mitigating it with another substance or something like that, just try some mindfulness techniques, and/or simple self talk.

Works for me, right when I dose I remind myself that overtalking is one of the effects of this drug, it needs to be monitored if I don't wanna get called out, and once it kicks in I keep reminding myself of the aforementioned, and that no matter how "right" talking about it feels, no one gives a fuck about __________."

 

[Jimmy_Pop]

I really don't think it's possible to trace stimulant "talkativeness" effects back to one particular receptor site, it is a byproduct of the same neurochemical activity that generates the sought after energy boost and euphoria stimulants are known for.

If your goal is to use stimulants for actual work rather than just to spaz out and yak everyone's ear off around you, I don't think there's much more you can do aside from:

a) doing them alone
b) keeping your phone a safe distance away
and c) using ampetamines instead of coke.

One thing that has been established pretty concretely is that seratonergic stimulants have more of a focusing effect than dopaminergic ones, so it seems like a pretty reasonable conclusion that amp will be better for your purposes than coke will be. However, the "focusing" effect of any drug can be directed toward productive as well as non-productive activities, and in general, I've found that the qualities of stimulants that supposedly make them conducive to working are surprisingly hit or miss. What I mean is, you can get high on amp and you will definitely focus intensely on ONE activity; however, you will be completely powerless to decide which activity you will focus on, it could be your homework or it could be Call Of Duty. You kind of need to already be focused on something BEFORE amp will make you focus on it even more intensely.

 

[Hiltoniano]

^pretty sure coke is more serotonergic than plain amp, might be wrong but I thought racemic amp was mostly just a dopamine releaser and also norepinephrine. Little effect on serotonin, part of why meth is so much worse is its powerful effect on serotonin. And I talk wayyy more on meth/MDMA than dexamp, but tht could be because I use a lot more of the former than the latter when trying to get high. I don't use meth or MDMA anymore.. Fuckin a now I got cravings to go deal with peace.

 

[Xegh]

Yes pure cocaine is a lot more serotonergic then amps. like previous posters have said though it is not just what receptors are most in play its a bit more about the highness if that makes sense. Both serotonin and dopamine release could make you talkative. On their own or combined so .....

 

[MeDieViL]

Im quite a overtalker out of myself, stims just push this way into excess, just wanted them to make me focus and thus talk less haha. But i suppose thats who i am.

 

[Dagger907]

Couple of tips:

Oxiracetam and Alpha-GPC. That Oxiracetam will make you focused as anything, almost manic. You wont feel very social, at least I didnt, but I crunshed alot of numbers.

Regards

 

[MeDieViL]

Couple of tips:

Oxiracetam and Alpha-GPC. That Oxiracetam will make you focused as anything, almost manic. You wont feel very social, at least I didnt, but I crunshed alot of numbers.

Regards

You sit are correct, the racetams fixed this issue perfectly.

 

[MeDieViL]

I didnt feel manic at all tough but also nac seemed to help loads, and tada i still take the same doses.

 

[XThexXTank]

Duct tape ?

Exactly what I was thinkin