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How to block excessive talkativeness of stimulants?

MeDieViL

MeDieViL

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They fix several of my issues but they make me way to talkative, wich receptor mediates this? Id like to shift this to the stimulation of motivation, PFC activation (D1 andD4 agonism) i suppose D2/D3 blockade but amisulpiride seems to weak.

Lower doses give the energy mostly to talking rather then productivity too.

Any idea's?
MU modulation? mu causes its rewarding effects.
I dont like opiates, give a stupid dreamy high so wont mind trying naltrexone, said this before but then dont as it blocks the high, but my life is the high and amp need to works better.
 
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Do you know what happened to the Mind and Muscle regulars after the forum change up? Benson, Ex Dubio, Funk etc.

Edit: Apologies for going off topic but that jpg is funny and MeDieViL was a regular at the M&M forums.
 
OP, the only thing that stopped me from talking to much shit was taking bigger doses. In all seriousness, this resulted in desiring to avoid others and talking with preference to internal dialog, or at least in higher doses i would pay way more attention to what i said (due to more analysis of everything you might want to say).

No jokes, but lower dose stimulants for me usually results in that need for talking over others and talking as much as possible and as much inappropriate stuff as well. I know is not what you asked really but this is actually what i did to move my usage away from social interaction for safeties sake.
 
Wanting to not talk as much, imo, led to a mental block that I am still unable to shake.

I used to talk a lot when on stimulants, and the comedowns would always leave me with the feeling I talked too much / pissed people off / etc.. I don't think I actually did but.. yeah.. now I find it hard to talk to even my closest friends. I feel as though i built up a mental block that I hate. I always over think what I am about to say, which often leads me to not saying anything / talking like an emotionless drone. I always keep things to the shortest, most to the point things. I hate it.
 
rickolasnice said:
Wanting to not talk as much, imo, led to a mental block that I am still unable to shake.

I used to talk a lot when on stimulants, and the comedowns would always leave me with the feeling I talked too much / pissed people off / etc.. I don't think I actually did but.. yeah.. now I find it hard to talk to even my closest friends. I feel as though i built up a mental block that I hate. I always over think what I am about to say, which often leads me to not saying anything / talking like an emotionless drone. I always keep things to the shortest, most to the point things. I hate it.
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This is very interesting and I can see how this can happen. Puts things in a new perspective. Hmmmm
 
Wait for the other person to speak, or in a group, wait for everyone to talk before speaking.

I dunno how much luck you'll get as most things that block stimulant talkitiveness also block the effectiveness as well.
 
i dont know how advanced this is - move to other drugs

talkativity and "wall of text" type replies are v. common in those who (ab)use amphetamine or methylphenidate-type stims...
there is no one "receptor" that controls talkativity. nor is there one that causes excusively prosexual side effects, or the "rolling" feeling induced by mdma, etc
this is kind of like asking us "every time i take amphetamine I end up wanking for 14 hours, how can I stop this". maybe ease up on the stimulant usage.

i seem to recall some people decide to pile on sedatives to counter "tweaky" side effects. (benzodiazepines, antihistamines/seroquel-type shit, opioids) but that never ever bodes well.. now you move from a stimulant dependency to a benzo or opioid dependency too...

or as renz envy said, wait your turn to speak?
 
So basically you have 2 options OP to try.. either take much more or much less than now, you're doing wrong doses :D
 
Just keep telling yourself in your head "do not ramble, listen first to what people are saying and then respond, if I don't it will be obvious i am on something." Way back when I was doing mdpv at work I really had to practice this.
 
the hedonic tone of stims and talking is connected. You talk more because it feels better/rewarding to talk. You could switch to opiates which make you feel good, while allowing you to not feel an urge to talk (glutamate mediated) if u wish not to.
 
LOGan1314 said:
Just keep telling yourself in your head "do not ramble, listen first to what people are saying and then respond, if I don't it will be obvious i am on something." Way back when I was doing mdpv at work I really had to practice this.
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This is so true. If you want to keep your drug use private, you absolutely have to keep telling yourself that silence can be golden... In a way you have to focus on others instead of focusing on yourself, and avoid conversations about topics that you're passionate about (especially at work or in any formal social setting).
Your dosage plays an important role in that sudden talkativity. Some stimulant users are unable to control themselves at higher doses but can manage low-moderate doses without a problem. I think that rambling endlessly is a behavior that is closely associated to drug use in a lot of people's minds, even among sober persons. You will not be able to conceal your drug use if you don't try to find some balance in your dosage and keep a low profile.
 
Only do stims with other people on stims :). Then u all have a deep conversation for hours.
 
More sex. Whenever I'm ranting on stimulants or doing anything else annoying a good sex session redirects my attention. That is until the sex session becomes the thing I cant stop doing.
 
Well there's the problem in using recreational drugs to fix issues - they're just too bloody recreational...
 
bben said:
the hedonic tone of stims and talking is connected. You talk more because it feels better/rewarding to talk. You could switch to opiates which make you feel good, while allowing you to not feel an urge to talk (glutamate mediated) if u wish not to.
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Opiates can cause the same issue with some people. Lots of times if I am on allot of opiates I will go on and on like a tweaker.
 
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