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How not to become addicted to opiates

In my opinion there is only 1 way to avoid psychological addiction of addictive compounds (this has worked for me and those close to me with regard to opioids, benzos and amphetamines):
Use addictive drugs only if you NEED them...
Or to state it another way:
Use them only when it is medically appropriate...
Or more generally:
Only use a drug if the benefits outweigh its risks and harms!
This is not to say you necessarily need to consult an overpaid egomaniac with a diploma (physician) to determine the appropriate treatment for every single ailment which befalls you... IF YOU ARE AN INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEING WHO CAN THINK FOR THEMSELVES... Unfortunately, over half the people on earth (and this is DEFINATELY an under-estimate with regards to minors, and those on this board [who are mostly minors]) are NOT intelligent human beings who are capable of thinking for themselves...
In short:
If you have to ask, you'll never know.

But before you make any decisions that you can't take back, you better do a HELL OF A LOT of medical research... I'm talking www.pubmed.org www.medline.com and www.google.com for MONTHS... In short, I don't recommend making the decisions that most people ask physicians to make for them unless you know more about your issues than the average physician does. (Which is NOT an impossible task because most physicians are lazy-ass money grubbing computer-illiterate who would rather play golf than read a website or a medical textbook)

Lastly, I've discovered an amazing way of dealing with physical dependance (NOT to be confused with psychological addiction):
IF you no longer NEED to use them, TAPER OFF ALL PHYSICALLY DEPENDANT SUBSTANCES AS SLOWLY AS IS NECCESSARY.

If you combine these 2 rules, you'll realise this amazing corrolary:
If you don't have enough of a drug in your possession to COMFORTABLY taper off of whatever tolerance you might get, you don't use the drug! (no, "I can always get more from my dealer" doesn't count as in your possession - dealers are flaky, they get arrested, or god forbid, die - you might not be able to afford more, your car might break down, somebody might steal your shit... etc...)

I suppose this is just another specific example of "don't bite off more than you can chew"... "Don't dig a hole you can't climb out of"... "If you can't take the heat, stay the hell out of the kitchen" or "If you can't afford to do the time, don't do the crime..." etc... (yay american idioms!)

What I'm trying to say is: there's nothing WRONG with doing addictive drugs, and if you're smart, there are strategies you can use, but its certainly easy to get in WAY too deep...

Go read a methadone board where everybody has a story about how their X years "using" led to their X+Y years on methadone trying to "psychologically stabilize" so that they could BEGIN to taper their doses... Then consider that most people on methadone maintenance taper 1mg per week... Consider that 160mg of methadone takes OVER 3 years to taper off of at that rate... Did I mention that methadone clinics charge from $100 to $1000 per week?

Hey if you can afford it, opiates are LOTS of fun, depending on your dose you'll feel LESS pain or NO pain, but one day you'll run out...

Of course, if you're already hooked you DO have some options, like Buprenorphine or Methadone, but beware of those who claim to have an EASY WAY OUT, because there is no such thing, as you can read here: www.dopers.org/content/how_to_quit_opiates.php

Buprenorphine has been wonderful for me: Its been treating the issues which led me to seek out opioids in the first place (physical pain & sleep problems), its been much cheaper than a "real" habit, especially since my HEALTH INSURANCE covers it. It does NOT cause cravings or escalations of dose like most of the "real" opiates did, and it lasts a good 24 hours each dose, so no more 8am "wake-up calls" from one's body...

Good luck, and remember: if you don't want to play anymore, quit while you're ahead!
 
vicodelicious is right on it. It's like asking how to not get an STD or someone pregnant. The answer is not have sex.

Whats up with all the drug-o-phobes having to have a bias against something purely out of social stigma?
 
The first few times you do opiates, its really subtle. Some people don't even notice anything. The seductivness of opiates stems from thier subtleness IMO. They will get a grip on you if you use long and/or frequently enough. I set limits for myself and unless I'm having a lot of fun doing other things (not drugs), I want them. I wish for them in any social situation, not because I need em but beacuse they make life feel that much easier. My mind watches a clock for when my time limit is up. Please listen to people here, you are better off to not start. You'll like it if you do it enough. Opiates feel like a hell of an allie, a good way to pass time, a good way to get some high quality sleep, and overall just a good way to live life. After that shit just goes downhill. Like has been said no one starts out to be an addict. I've never been addicted but I came as close as I care. Opiates can ERODE your willpower. Be safe and have fun.
 
Opiates are very subtle. They ease pain (physical and emotional), cause euphoria, are relatively safe when used in moderation, and make one forget about everything--they make your troubles melt away, and better yet, they make you feel as though the troubles you have are manageable or not even that important. They are also very difficult to avoid once you know that feeling. Once a person has touched the divine (they honestely, in my opinon, feel that good), how can one go back? I used to think cocaine was the best drug, the most euphoric. Smoking coke doesn't even compare to opiates. They last a long time (depending on what opiate/oid you have), the euphoria is much better (I guess this is subjective), and they are relatively easy to come by (depending on what you're looking for). We all have the best intentions when we use. As little as five years ago, I never thought I'd use drugs. And even when I began to use, I never thought I'd have a problem. As I progressed from drug to drug, experimenting and noting my reactions to each, I got in deeper and deeper. Like I said, how can someone go back once their eyes have been opened to the alternative? Use opiates very wisely and sparingly. It is SO EASY to become addicted to them. Chances are you're going to like them. I'm sure there are people who dislike opiates, but I've never met one of them. I've also never met an opiate I didn't like. They are that good. Just be careful. If you are that curious and have already made a plan, chances are you're going to use them. Just don't let it interfere with your life, as you said you don't want to do. The good thing is that it's relatively easy to function normally on opiates, as long as you have a constant supply. The problem is that maintaining a constant supply is relatively difficult for most people, either because of sources, money, or some other reason. Once you're hooked, though, and the supply runs out, life is a bitch. Just don't let it get to that point. Just remember, it doesn't matter how intelligent, stable, or how good things are in your life. Addiction is a slipery slope: once one area in your life falls, another does, then another, until everything is in chaos. This is true for any drug. In my opinion, however, opiates are the best drugs, and it would be extremely difficult to fix your life once it's been fucked up. Just be careful, and good luck.
 
obviously its possible for him to try opiates and not get hooked, but i see it more as an everyday drug than just something to get fucked up on every now and then. cocaine, psychadelics, mdma are fun for me every now and then. god these cold chills are gettin to me...:X
 
I think it all depends on how much you like it and how easily you can obtain it... The first 10 times i did percs i liked them a little but they wern't that great.. I tried oxy the first time and loved it... Then i hated it because it would make me so sick from taking too much.. Then my tolerance went up and i had a lot more fun.. I was hooked for a few months then couldn't get them anymore.. Found some vikes.. Ate them once in awhile then started abusing.. Ate 15 of them one night and woke up the next day realizing i need to slow down. Its been about 2 months since then... I wonder if my tolerance went down.. It was about 40mg crushed oxy or about 70mg hydro, in one dose i'm talking not spaced out. I think the shit is just too expensive.. If you can afford to buy this shit without draining your bank account then you def shouldn't start because the chance is def their..
 
if you don't want to become addicted to opiates don't use them.....thats my advice....

i did not wane become addicted but it just happens...if your a little of you guard ore just don't care for the moment.
 
I chipped away(snorting white dope) for about 2years without going through any serious wd's during that period. Only until I started IVing did the addiction start eating away at my life, thank god for bupe.
 
I have been addicted and had bad periods many times but I can now do opiates, even IV'ed(but thats because I allready crossed that line) now and then. I usually save up for the weekend, maybe sometimes I go thursday because I can not wait, then I'll skip friday. It has worked a long time now. I am into a very good run of sliding down to earth(I was way out there, mental case I was(am) ;))

Peace
 
i know i'm late

i figure you have a 1/5 chance of becoming an addict if you try to use opiates moderately. i.e. 80% of the people i know who have tried have stuck to being intermittant users (chippers), and do not have addiction troubles.

i *do* believe that you cannot choose to be in one of those groups at the outset, so don't go fooling yourself into thinking that you'll be able to moderate it. while it's not a bad risk (20%), it's non-zero, and you really have no clue if you're going to end up there.

i hate reading these threads full of nay-sayers saying JUST DON'T DO IT MAN TRUST JESUS AND THE POLICE. stick to the facts.
 
Just dont start abusing. Its hell... after a few months you will find you are using to push back withdrawals and the high is no were near as good as it was in the beginning.


I used to take 20-30mg of hydrocodone and it would last about 5-8 hours and I would be so high/aware/euphoric...now 20-30mg gives me about 2-6 mins of that same feeling...after about 40mins I couldnt even tell if I took some.
 
I think the ONLY sure way of NOT getting addicted is to have a limited supply.

this is the best option here aside from not starting. before i got addicted i only had a guy who knew people who got shit. so i HAD to go through him to get anything...but eventually i sought people to cop off of myself, and now here i am with a 20-80mg a day oxy habit less than 2 years later.
 
Spiritus said:
If I have the willpower (I do) to schedual when I take the drug... spacing it out over say 7 days... Should I be okay?

its too much, i say man, never plan your next time (& dont wait for it)
its the best.
good luck & be careful.
 
I never shot up once in the 10 year opiate party I had in New Orleans leading up to Katrina. Now I'm on methadone. Still don't use needles, tho'. :D
 
the guy that said that their subtlety is their draw, he is absolutely right

Ive been a daily opiate user for well over a year and I believe they are as close to the perfect drug that you can get. They are not ultra powerful and wont fuck you out of your mind really, and thats whats so great. The main feeling you get is the euphoria. You get a very strong euphoric feeling and just feel great, like everything is right in the world. And thats where the draw lies, the fact that it really doesnt affect anything else, its very subtle in how much it fucks you up so you can do it at work, school, wherever and it just basically helps you get thru your day. Its definitely in a class of its own. It is extremely addicting physically, but what makes it so dangerous is because of its nature, it is one of the most mentally addicting drugs. Once you see how perfect it is and that you can do it ANYWHERE and function totally normally, only much better and much happier, communicate better, function better, have more energy to do boring tasks, you can see the pull it can have on you. If you dont plan on having an endless supply of opiates like me, then I would NOT start. You will regret it, mainly because life is so good on them daily that you wont want to go back to a normal feeling life.
 
phactor said:
Every Junkie intended to moderate his use. Nobody uses thinking they are going to get addicted.
true. however, most users aren't addicted.

it's a risk, one that IMHO is worth taking, because they make me feel good, and when i am happier i have more motivation (good) and less stress (good)
 
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