Ok, well, we've all fucked up badly with drugs before on this forum, so I doubt the following story will surprise many people:
The other night I took about 9 grams of Kratom, some L-Theanine, 1.7mgs of Klonopin and had about 10 drinks, some of them shots of whiskey and some beer.
Needless to say, it resulted in me blacking out and thoroughly embarrassing myself and a lot of other people as well.
The thing is, I used to take Klonopin Every day for 11 years but then I stopped for 9 months.
Then the other week I got a new prescription to use them only as needed, so obviously my tolerance went WAY down.
Though it is NOT AT ALL advised, I used to drink on Klonopin all the time and NEVER blacked out because my body was so used to it.
But now my theory was that because I hadn't taken the KLonopin for 9 months I lost my tolerance and when I drank on it I blacked out for that reason.
What I want to know is: Do you guys think If I had NOT TAKEN ANY KLONOPIN AT ALL.....ONLY the Kratom, L-Theanine and Alcohol, that it is likely I would not have blacked out??
I am sure you can't answer the question 100%, I just want to know what people think and this is coming from someone who has a MASSIVE tolerance to alcohol and who frequently drinks as much or more than I did on this night without ever blacking out.
1)How greatly does Kratom increase the effects of Klonopin and Alcohol and likewise, or greatly do alcohol and Klonopin increase the effects of Kratom?
2) How greatly does L-Theanine increase the effects of Klonopin, Alcohol and Kratom and likewise, how greatly do Kratom, Alcohol and Klonopin increase the effectivenss of L-Theanine.
I remember I read a thread where someone mentioned something about a very specific effect that the combo of L-Theanine and alcohol have on eachother.
Does anyone know what the combination of L-Theanine and Alcohol does in the brain or what the effect I'd read about might have been??
I thought it MIGHT have been that L-Theanine actually helps lessen the side effects of alcohol but I'm not sure.
Note: I am NOT asking about how much Alcohol and Klonopin potentiate eachother as I already know they do and how foolish an idea it was to mix them and I am NEVER going to drink alcohol while on Klonopin again. I've learned my lesson there.
But what I want to understand is how bad the Kratom/Alcohol/L-Theanine combo is WITHOUT the Klonopin and whether or not people agree that it was probably MOSTLY the interaction between the Klonopin with my greatly lowered tolerance from 9 months off of it and alcohol that resulted in the blackout and not the Kratom or L-Theanine.
Note also that this was PLAIN LEAF KRATOM (bali and Super Green Malay) and not an extract.
I fucked up badly this time and need to make sure it NEVER happens again.
Thanks
The other night I took about 9 grams of Kratom, some L-Theanine, 1.7mgs of Klonopin and had about 10 drinks, some of them shots of whiskey and some beer.
Needless to say, it resulted in me blacking out and thoroughly embarrassing myself and a lot of other people as well.
The thing is, I used to take Klonopin Every day for 11 years but then I stopped for 9 months.
Then the other week I got a new prescription to use them only as needed, so obviously my tolerance went WAY down.
Though it is NOT AT ALL advised, I used to drink on Klonopin all the time and NEVER blacked out because my body was so used to it.
But now my theory was that because I hadn't taken the KLonopin for 9 months I lost my tolerance and when I drank on it I blacked out for that reason.
What I want to know is: Do you guys think If I had NOT TAKEN ANY KLONOPIN AT ALL.....ONLY the Kratom, L-Theanine and Alcohol, that it is likely I would not have blacked out??
I am sure you can't answer the question 100%, I just want to know what people think and this is coming from someone who has a MASSIVE tolerance to alcohol and who frequently drinks as much or more than I did on this night without ever blacking out.
1)How greatly does Kratom increase the effects of Klonopin and Alcohol and likewise, or greatly do alcohol and Klonopin increase the effects of Kratom?
2) How greatly does L-Theanine increase the effects of Klonopin, Alcohol and Kratom and likewise, how greatly do Kratom, Alcohol and Klonopin increase the effectivenss of L-Theanine.
I remember I read a thread where someone mentioned something about a very specific effect that the combo of L-Theanine and alcohol have on eachother.
Does anyone know what the combination of L-Theanine and Alcohol does in the brain or what the effect I'd read about might have been??
I thought it MIGHT have been that L-Theanine actually helps lessen the side effects of alcohol but I'm not sure.
Note: I am NOT asking about how much Alcohol and Klonopin potentiate eachother as I already know they do and how foolish an idea it was to mix them and I am NEVER going to drink alcohol while on Klonopin again. I've learned my lesson there.
But what I want to understand is how bad the Kratom/Alcohol/L-Theanine combo is WITHOUT the Klonopin and whether or not people agree that it was probably MOSTLY the interaction between the Klonopin with my greatly lowered tolerance from 9 months off of it and alcohol that resulted in the blackout and not the Kratom or L-Theanine.
Note also that this was PLAIN LEAF KRATOM (bali and Super Green Malay) and not an extract.
I fucked up badly this time and need to make sure it NEVER happens again.
Thanks