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How many of you suffer insomnia? And...

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Lolie said:
A lot of drugs are known to fuck up normal sleep patterns by changing what phases of sleep people experience and/or their duration. Separate to that you get the people whose drug abuse started as a result of insomnia treatment and who are now physically dependent on prescription sleep aids both to sleep and to avoid withdrawals.

And yeah, 10 days without sleeping is a pretty good reason to have a sleep study done. Chances are that there were microsleeps happening (sleep studies usually find that people are getting more sleep than they think but have no awareness of having slept). For many people it isn't the quantity of sleep which is the problem, it's the quality. Not getting enough REM sleep in particular seems to really fuck people up.
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well i can honestly say i never slept a wink just kept on waiting for that passout stage i ussualy got on day 5 but it never came.
And ya the shrink never herd of it before iether ,just told me how dangerous it could be and put me in this jeurnal he kept for reference a guess,but thank gawd i got help i was skin and bone by the time i went to emergency..
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
Yeah, no shit. They never tell you about the potential dependence problems associated with SSRI's and anti-psychotics. Just because these drugs don't have abuse potential doesn't mean that there isn't the chance of addiction. I was never told that Effexor was addictive but when I tried to get off it, boy was I in for a surprise!
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WOW im on effexor 187.5 mg daily i didnt know you could have WD from it ???:|
seems to be the only antidressant that has worked fairly good for me ..who knew??
 
here's one i forgot about: Placidyl(ethchlorvynol). you'd have to find a old bottle since they stopped making them in 1999 but this stuff is one of the strongest hypnotics i've tried, with methaqualone only being a stronger hypnotic.

it even has potiential for fun(and dependence) as it has a barbiturate like action. its not as euphoric as methaqualone, secobarbital, amobarbital, or even large doses of temazepam, but it will mess up if you take a few. they feel more like a barb than a benzo, and generally has more hypnotic effects than euphoriant effects.

here's a thread i made about when i came across a bottle of the stuff:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=527740
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
^ Looked Placidyl up, sounds like a great sedative/hypnotic. Why do you think it was taken off the market?
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it was taken off the market due to it's potiential for abuse, dependence, and danger in overdose(esp. the last two). basicaly it was a barbiturate in disguise and had very similar risks(theraputic dose not much lower than a lethal dose, plus overdose was dangerous much like barbs). its funny that this dangerous sedative was ment to be a safer alternative to benzos.

however, it was not put in a heavily regulated schedule(placidyl is a schedule 4 controlled substance in the U.S.). also i think its still a perscription drug in many countries.

it is a powerful hypnotic, for sleep purposes its just as strong(if not a little stronger) as barbiturates. for recreational use, it feels mostly like a barb but with less euphoria and self content and more apathy and a strong desire for sleep. it makes a great drug to come down on, though.
 
another thing about placidyl- there's a disgusting taste of menthol & camphor if you take a few of them. think the taste from ingesting benzedrex inhaler contents. the taste is really uncomfortable and causes a decent amount of nausea, plus its hard to get rid of/mask and can last well into the next day.
 
So I've now an Rx for Temazepam, not a lot of it but 30 15mg caps.
Given my general tolerance to any sedative, what would you suggest dosage wise for the temazepam to use only at night for sleeping.

I have previously taken 1mg Clonazepam by its self at night with little sedation,
so with that as a reference point, what would be a good dose of temazepam (in multiples of 15mg)
 
after a pritty scary thing that happend to me (wont go into detals)but after this happend i got deprision social anxity and insomnia i was put on a bunch of difernt benzos now the deprisin is gone n ive lernt to live with my anxity so today my doctor decided to take me off valium (with i also used to my anxity issue) but i still have insomnia :( its sucks soooo much on a good night i fall asleep around 6 in the morning and when i do sleep i piss out with sweat on a bad night i dont sleep at all sometmes i dont even sleep the next day now my doc wants me to go to hypno theripy but in the mean time i have to deal with sleepless nights :(
 
mgrady3 said:
So I've now an Rx for Temazepam, not a lot of it but 30 15mg caps.
Given my general tolerance to any sedative, what would you suggest dosage wise for the temazepam to use only at night for sleeping.

I have previously taken 1mg Clonazepam by its self at night with little sedation,
so with that as a reference point, what would be a good dose of temazepam (in multiples of 15mg)
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For sleep I would recommend 30mg. That's the max therapeutic dose prescribed in the U.S. If that doesn't work than take another 15mg 90 minutes later
 
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