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Stimulants How long of wait to lower vyvanse tollerance?

Cant really take a 6-12 month break because Im starting school again in September and I got add and it really helps with the whole concentration thing. Whenn im not on them i fuckin space out like all the time. Also college is hard as shit and ima need all the help i can get to study ya kno.

Anyway, ima probably gonna wait till Sept. and get another script for the new semester n start fresh.
 
Quiglesigles said:
Just did a quick google search and I'm still not convinced that you can change your blood pH to any noticeable degree. Search the term "changes in blood pH" and correct me if I'm wrong. I would really love for this to be true though.

The real question is if a change in stomach fluid pH will affect Vyvanse due to it being a prodrug.
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No problem, that's what I'm here for. Here is some related reading you will find enjoyable ;)

http://www.livestrong.com/article/544662-sodium-bicarbonate-blood-ph/

http://www.angelfire.com/ms2/bigjensen/MYPROTEIN/bakingsoda.html

http://www.smartbodyz.com/Alkaline-Body-pH-Baking-Soda-Heartburn.htm

Please keep in mind that for the most part your body pH levels are in an acidic state. By no means am I saying it'll make your pH go insanely high (just not possible), but it WILL raise the pH levels of your body to above neutral (when they are most always below neutral, thus being acidic not alkaline).

Hope I helped :)
 
Quiglesigles said:
Just did a quick google search and I'm still not convinced that you can change your blood pH to any noticeable degree. Search the term "changes in blood pH" and correct me if I'm wrong. I would really love for this to be true though.

The real question is if a change in stomach fluid pH will affect Vyvanse due to it being a prodrug.
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this isn't totally incorrect imo, its along the right lines.

What im thinking, but not really so much with vyv more with dex and adder is that it is the stomach/urine ph which is variable, not the blood.

The plasma level of the drug in the blood would be influenced by change in stomach/urine ph, however it is not necessarily desirable.

I have tried this, not with vyv, but with the others and it makes for a shorter duration, and a less of a therapeutic effect.

I did not try with vyv because I realized that the stuff is already good enough by itself.

IMO/E sodiumbicarbonate is not effective. I have found a certain type of B12 vitamin to be ok, but I can't be certain if it isn't just placebo effect.

to address your point though, I suspect that since vyv is cleared by the liver, and since that I have thrown it up and still had effects later the day when if i had thrown up dex i wouldn't have, that the key to vyv is your liver. and your heart ofcourse, but liver

so, you need to ask what can affect the liver? well imo other drugs which also work off the liver, however this might not be desirable, but I do see opportunity here to do the opposite of what you asked, I could maybe regulate my vyv better if i used another drug with it which worked from the liver and had desirable contradicting effects. but then again, i dont know. just my 2cents

just saw your contribution GBM, nice. nice. when i have time i will try to look at it, but in the meanwhile if anyone of you who isn't currently occupied doesn't mind summarizing the important points for our purposes your benefiting some# of ppl, thanks
 
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XThexXTank said:
Cant really take a 6-12 month break because Im starting school again in September and I got add and it really helps with the whole concentration thing. Whenn im not on them i fuckin space out like all the time. Also college is hard as shit and ima need all the help i can get to study ya kno.

Anyway, ima probably gonna wait till Sept. and get another script for the new semester n start fresh.
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straterra and intuit are not stimulants and have good efficacy

intuit for hyperactivity, strattera would work for the same, but it should also help inattentive symptoms

As well since vyv is not the sulphate compound you might have better luck using this in the off time for say 6mo or until school, then during school when its down to it you could look at dex imo. but adderall works for someppl I find it intoxicating and don't like it for school, as i too attend post-sec and can relate to your concern, I am also interested in this topic lets keep it going, lets record the experiences so we can learn from each other and benefit !!!! good luck man
 
bakin soda! dude lets hope that your bringnin me the answer i needed before i start fuckin abusin that shit like 2much ppl . I truly don't wanna abuse it considering that i am already a amp abuser(i made sure to be 1year sober before going on vyv). But seriously the only option i found to fight the redose is to wait later as possible in the day before takin it due to the shitty down it bring when this stuff fade away...also a black coffee when i hit the down major importance if i wanna be able to go workout.
 
R(x)AGE said:
this isn't totally incorrect imo, its along the right lines.

What im thinking, but not really so much with vyv more with dex and adder is that it is the stomach/urine ph which is variable, not the blood.

The plasma level of the drug in the blood would be influenced by change in stomach/urine ph, however it is not necessarily desirable.

I have tried this, not with vyv, but with the others and it makes for a shorter duration, and a less of a therapeutic effect.

I did not try with vyv because I realized that the stuff is already good enough by itself.

IMO/E sodiumbicarbonate is not effective. I have found a certain type of B12 vitamin to be ok, but I can't be certain if it isn't just placebo effect.

to address your point though, I suspect that since vyv is cleared by the liver, and since that I have thrown it up and still had effects later the day when if i had thrown up dex i wouldn't have, that the key to vyv is your liver. and your heart ofcourse, but liver

so, you need to ask what can affect the liver? well imo other drugs which also work off the liver, however this might not be desirable, but I do see opportunity here to do the opposite of what you asked, I could maybe regulate my vyv better if i used another drug with it which worked from the liver and had desirable contradicting effects. but then again, i dont know. just my 2cents

just saw your contribution GBM, nice. nice. when i have time i will try to look at it, but in the meanwhile if anyone of you who isn't currently occupied doesn't mind summarizing the important points for our purposes your benefiting some# of ppl, thanks
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vyvanse megathread should please you...its just because its a bitch if we divide the topic in too many thread ,since i enjoy me too and try to keep on track wit all of you my ADD superhuman brainiac meds abducted friends ;)
 
KeyMiNDer said:
bakin soda! dude lets hope that your bringnin me the answer i needed before i start fuckin abusin that shit like 2much ppl . I truly don't wanna abuse it considering that i am already a amp abuser(i made sure to be 1year sober before going on vyv). But seriously the only option i found to fight the redose is to wait later as possible in the day before takin it due to the shitty down it bring when this stuff fade away...also a black coffee when i hit the down major importance if i wanna be able to go workout.
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uhhhm baking soda might not be the panacea here, you could try it, it might give you acid reflux or indigestion or something like that.

I did say that B12 the methyl- type might be a better option. goodluck though
 
KeyMiNDer said:
vyvanse megathread should please you...its just because its a bitch if we divide the topic in too many thread ,since i enjoy me too and try to keep on track wit all of you my ADD superhuman brainiac meds abducted friends ;)
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will check it out
 
I have been taking B vitamins as part of my daily routine but not with the intention of helping the vyvanse. Do you think B vitamins and vyvanse work together in any way?
 
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