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[Esperighanto]

That's a tough one.. zolpidem seems to improve my sleep quality, and as long as I don't overdo it (max 20 mg) I don't get a hangover and wake up feeling better than after clean sleep. But I'm very careful not to use it too often cause it's quickly habit foming for me and I fear that. I'd also expect that effect to fade rather quickly upon regular use.
I don't have much experience with Zopiclone, so it's hard to tell - I only tried it once and it messed me up mentally so much when I tried to stay awake that I didn't bother to get more.
I didn't notice that feeling of recovery as clearly with benzos, though any benzo can put me to sleep easily as long as I use them only once in a while. If I'm having a backpain from tense muscles, the muscle relaxing does help with sleep though.
Ket doesn't really let me sleep in higher doses and I wake up exhausted. Low dose it's not a problem.

Thank you for the detailed response! A lifelong fascination with dreaming (every dream I've ever had is lucid) has led me into a deep obsession with dream enhancement using oneirogens, and sleep enhancement using various things.

There haven't been any studies surrounding it, but anecdotal evidence suggests that kratom lowers the seizure threshold. I also witnessed my ex have a seizure 15-30 minutes after taking kratom.. Granted she WAS in benzodiazepine withdrawal but she had been fine for like 3 days. Fine as in she wasn't having seizures or worsening. The kratom was enough to cause a seizure. One that she barely came away from with her life. I used to be prescribed 450mg and sometimes if I had a little bit too much caffeine with it I could "feel" the lowered seizure threshold. I don't know how to describe it but you can just sense it. I have also read a report from someone with no history of seizures who had one after consuming only kratom, nicotine and caffeine.

So long story short, I don't trust it to be a safe combination. It's at least one that I'm not willing to try. I imagine 7-OH and Bupropion is probably fine. I imagine it's alkaloids at play. Though if you have experience with it then maybe you're just able to handle it and some other can't. Luck of the draw.

It's no longer an issue. I'm back on Suboxone. 8mg/day. The reason I'm at this high of a is because that's the dose that they want me stabilized on before doing the Sublocade. Will probably do one more month o the tablets before the shot. I'm currently on 300mg of Bupropion which has been very helpful for my depression and the Gabapentin helps as well. Bupropion has been making my insomnia worse, more so than I remember in the past, but I am also prescribed 15mg Mirtazapine for depression. I take 7.5mg-15mg at night and it knocks me out. Also started on Spironolactone a month ago or so and started on estradiol almost a week ago. Starting to get nervous about transitioning and am having second thoughts. But every time I envision myself in the future, I always feel like I'll be happier as a woman. So I think that I'm making the right move.

Thank you also for the detailed response! Bupropion insomnia is a bitch, I started taking mine again recently and got up at 3:30, with no clue if I'm going back to sleep hahaha. Cathinones like Bupropion and NEP, as well as 5-MeO-DiPT (and once DOB w/ spice) can keep me up but not even things like methamphetamine, LSD, etc can, and I have no idea as to why.

On the topic of the thread, I got up pretty late after sleeping ~6 hours, but recently I've been oversleeping and it's not unheard of for me to oversleep and then not need as much sleep for a day or two after, like some sort of inverse sleep debt. Without being able to get my PC to run though until I snag a new hard drive, I'm stuck trying to hand write some short horror stories to pass time. Been using a lot of 7-OH recently, and while it's fun and all, it's not crazy interesting compared to psychedelics, but I need to drive to work in 6 hours so even 2C-B would be a time crunch given my wicked slow metabolism. Maybe just a little wouldn't hurt though.

Anybody here ever used small doses of psychedelics for writing? If so, what helped the most?

 

[SuperPsych]

Anybody here ever used small doses of psychedelics for writing? If so, what helped the most?

I haven't used psychedelics for the express purpose of writing, but I have ended up writing while on psychedelics before. The one that really sticks out to me is LSD. I feel like it really enhances my vocabulary and I feel like I can access more of my brain if that makes sense. Not like I'm necessarily more intelligent while on LSD, but I seem to be able to make much better use of it while on LSD. This is evident in both writing and in conversation. I'm able to connect ideas better and put what I'm thinking into words much much more easily. I also seem to have a great sense of humor while on LSD which can really be helpful when writing depending on what sort of writing you're doing of course.Thank you also for the detailed response! Bupropion insomnia is a bitch, I started taking mine again recently and got up at 3:30, with no clue if I'm going back to sleep hahaha. Cathinones like Bupropion and NEP, as well as 5-MeO-DiPT (and once DOB w/ spice) can keep me up but not even things like methamphetamine, LSD, etc can, and I have no idea as to why.

Thank you also for the detailed response! Bupropion insomnia is a bitch, I started taking mine again recently and got up at 3:30, with no clue if I'm going back to sleep hahaha. Cathinones like Bupropion and NEP, as well as 5-MeO-DiPT (and once DOB w/ spice) can keep me up but not even things like methamphetamine, LSD, etc can, and I have no idea as to why.

That is interesting. The mirtazapine really helps me with the bupropion insomnia. The insomnia isn't as bad now that I've been on it for a month or so @ 300mg SR per day. I barely feel it anymore. The first week or so was pretty nice. Definitely helped wake me up. It's no longer as efficient at that as it was, but it at least seems to still help me focus which has been a game changer. I have a psych evaluation with my primary care DR next week. I would not be surprised if I got an ADHD diagnosis. I'm hoping to eventually get a prescription for Concerta or something. My doctor is well aware of my addiction issues so it'd be tough to get him to prescribe it.

Strange that you're able to sleep on Meth but not cathinones. I mean NEP definitely kept me up but not quite as well as meth. DOM kept me up for 40 hours off of one 2mg dose. Did some DOC the other week and it didn't really keep me up, but I only took one of those notoriously mis-dosed presses. Was a pretty weak trip. Will probably take 2 or 3 next time. LSD doesn't really keep me up either. I'm not able to sleep during the peak but I can fall to sleep shortly after without too much effort

 

[Esperighanto]

Strange that you're able to sleep on Meth but not cathinones. I mean NEP definitely kept me up but not quite as well as meth. DOM kept me up for 40 hours off of one 2mg dose. Did some DOC the other week and it didn't really keep me up, but I only took one of those notoriously mis-dosed presses. Was a pretty weak trip. Will probably take 2 or 3 next time. LSD doesn't really keep me up either. I'm not able to sleep during the peak but I can fall to sleep shortly after without too much effort

I find DOM naps wonderful but when I'm taking over 25mg of DOM sleep can be challenging, 45mg definitely required a lot of PCP on top of it to knock me out, I think I smoked something like 140mg of 3-MeO-PCP that night and ended up having a DMT-like breakthrough. I'd coadministered the DOM with 40mg of miprocin and 25mg of 2C-B, and all three of those were insufflated in one large, very painful line.

 

[paranoid android]

I had 6 zopiclone , bromazepam and most of a flask of straight tequila

 

[Esperighanto]

I had 6 zopiclone , bromazepam and most of a flask of straight tequila

What was the mg per zopiclone tablet? I've only ever interfaced with zolpidem (Ambien) but zop seems interesting for sure.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

If 0% is the worst withdrawal you can imagine and 100% is the highest you can imagine [without 0Ding] I'm was at 40%, currently at abut 48 but rising slowly.
Get my meds in just over 18 hours. Was in mild wd so just took my last 30mg Morphine [opened the capsule and crushed the beads for IR release].

Also had:
Sertraline 200mg
Gabapentin 1500mg

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

What was the mg per zopiclone tablet? I've only ever interfaced with zolpidem (Ambien) but zop seems interesting for sure.

IME Zolpidem has a definite stronger knock-out effect, but only lasts like 4-5 hours
Zopiclone has a more natural FEEL, like it feels like you need to sleep, but nt DRUGGED, and I prefer it as it lasts like 7-8 hours.
So, if I just wanna be unconscious, I'd go Zolpidem, but I usually prefer Zopiclone as it gives me a normal-duration sleep whereas Zolpidem I end up waking up at like 4am and having to redose

 

[paranoid android]

What was the mg per zopiclone tablet? I've only ever interfaced with zolpidem (Ambien) but zop seems interesting for sure.

They are 7.5mg per pill

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

IME Zolpidem has a definite stronger knock-out effect, but only lasts like 4-5 hours
Zopiclone has a more natural FEEL, like it feels like you need to sleep, but nt DRUGGED, and I prefer it as it lasts like 7-8 hours.
So, if I just wanna be unconscious, I'd go Zolpidem, but I usually prefer Zopiclone as it gives me a normal-duration sleep whereas Zolpidem I end up waking up at like 4am and having to redose

Interesting. I felt very much drugged by zopiclone... also I dislike the state of mental handicap it created for me. I`m not the only one who's a mess on them, not remembering what you or anyone else said just a minute ago... long before actually blacking out.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Interesting. I felt very much drugged by zopiclone... also I dislike the state of mental handicap it created for me. I`m not the only one who's a mess on them, not remembering what you or anyone else said just a minute ago... long before actually blacking out.

I've probably just not experienced that 'cause when I've taken it, I just go to bed as soon as I feel sleepy.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

OT: Decided to snort 10 mg of 2c-b on top of
100 mg Tapentadol, boofed - it works again
50 mg Pregabalin,
25 mg dph
spoonful of BSO
Damn that come up was harsh.. (possibly worsened cause I had 2c-b orally just yesterday), almost threw up and felt sick for a whole hour before it suddenly stabilized in a snap. Meanwhile I noticed how damn fragile that life of mine really is. Tried to wash my nose and felt massively scared of suffocation. Felt the physical strain on my body very heavily and once again wondered why I keep doing this to myself Another reminder that I have to nourish myself better. Being borderline anorectic for too long now, it's terrible every time to see that in the mirror...

I've probably just not experienced that 'cause when I've taken it, I just go to bed as soon as I feel sleepy.

That's the way. I was just foolishly trying to get some kind of Euphoria from them so I fought it.. Now I know better but I have no more LoL

 

[Esperighanto]

Felt the physical strain on my body very heavily and once again wondered why I keep doing this to myself Another reminder that I have to nourish myself better. Being borderline anorectic for too long now, it's terrible every time to see that in the mirror

Psychedelics are teachers, and they teach often and intensely about the importance of rigorous self care in my experience. I spent 8 months using ayahuasca daily, often mixing mushrooms or LSD into the mix, and the month before and after this period I also was using ayahuasca 3-5 out of 7 days. My entire lifestyle became working (data engineer at that time), skateboarding, eating like a pound of fish every day with some sauteed vegetables, and I got down to being ab skinny just on accident. Despite all the brew, my homies and I referred to the state of being as "becoming acid skinny". 2C-B is a much less brutal teacher than ayahuasca or mushrooms but it can still certainly teach what it wants to, when it wants to.

My fiance has often had 2C-B induce vomiting up fast food and the sort, it's happened so much it's kind of a running joke at this point. His birthday once was celebrated at an arcade, and an extra large keybump of 2C-B HBr sent us home immediately, but not before the bushes became a vomit receptacle.

On the topic of the thread though, I started my day off with 75mg each of Bupropion and THC-O orally, and tonight I've decided to turn up a little bit. 750ug of DOB, another 75mg Bupropion tablet, 4 wildly large eyeballed piles of 7-OH (might smoke some of it later too), smoked a couple bowls of MDMB-4en-PINACA infused damiana, and 300mg of gabapentin because why not. Considering 25mg of promethazine, or some oral THC-H/THC-B.

 

[Mushoku_Sensei]

Psychedelics are teachers, and they teach often and intensely about the importance of rigorous self care in my experience. I spent 8 months using ayahuasca daily, often mixing mushrooms or LSD into the mix, and the month before and after this period I also was using ayahuasca 3-5 out of 7 days. My entire lifestyle became working (data engineer at that time), skateboarding, eating like a pound of fish every day with some sauteed vegetables, and I got down to being ab skinny just on accident. Despite all the brew, my homies and I referred to the state of being as "becoming acid skinny". 2C-B is a much less brutal teacher than ayahuasca or mushrooms but it can still certainly teach what it wants to, when it wants to.

The longer I read about your doses, the more certain I am that we're not the same species lmao . I've had Ayahuasca a few times and the last time I remember hanging over the toilet trying to vomit so the terrible nausea ends but couldn't. I got a severe headache just from the pressure of trying. That's when I decided that I'm too old for this (more than a decade ago)...
Mushrooms have always had a quite bearable nausea, and 2cb was a bit different every time. This time I was obviously in a worse physiological state than usual.

 

[Esperighanto]

The longer I read about your doses, the more certain I am that we're not the same species lmao

I definitely take to psychedelics in a way that most people don't, I've experienced an enormous amount of brain damage in my life and have had to manually rebuild my cognition. It's tedious as fuck but it was worth it, and the psychoplastogenic effects of psychedelics have been an invaluable tool. I think that's what predisposed me towards them, personally.

On the topic of the thread today, 56mg of intranasal bromonordiazepam, 150mg of Bupropion orally, and possibly also some THC-O soon.

 

[Jeebis2]

My daily 2mg suboxone, 2 doubles of vodka lemonade, a bowl of like 35:65 banana og flower:sherbert Queen bubble hash, about 350 mgs THC (2 rosin-infused 100mg shots and 150 in various rosin and rso gummies), coming off half a 30mg adderall i took throughout work (quarter when I started, quarter at my first 15), and a few wacks off of my 1:1 1g dmt:1ml cartridge i got at the shpongle show in Port chester in April.

My mom's in the hospital with some serious shit and im not exactly coping well, however I run the sales floor of a legal dispensary in my state so atleast there's that

 

[Psychlone Jack]

Just finished 7 straight days at work and an exhausting 12 days in general, but I'm off now and tomorrow. Sitting around doing nothing and loving it.

5mg apixaban, 10mg olanzapine, a.5g bub of Gush Mints a little earlier, 67mg methadone about 20 minutes ago and several hundred mgs of live resin gummies here soon. Also sitting around the rest of the night smacking this Cantaloupe Haze diamond sauce pen.

Plan on being quite mellow, quite soon.

 

[Oldskipper]

Plan on being quite mellow, quite soon.

I should hope so jack mate , that's quite the smörgasbord you got going on there friend. Currently I'm drinking bottles of Tyskie and tipping away at a small pile of coke, I've a piece of hash too for an easy landing, it's low-mid range hand rubbed border hash(poor man's charas lol) tastes great but very harsh on the chest. Enjoy man

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Well seeing as I can't sleep and it's like half 4 the morning. I just had a small blade size joint of skywalker so roughly 0.6-7g the way I roll. Heating up the dab rig to smoke some Honeycomg Tangerine Dream, got 2g today with 12g of 3 varieties of Flower. Wait...

Tick
Tock

I'm fuct hahaha

Yay that dab ( cough ) I mean 2 has got my head spinning and locked into this couch. Gonna sip a dbl vodka and vanilla Coke with 20mg diazepam, 5mg methadone ( yeah its small but don't hate, I have like 2l of it ) oh and another 8mg Chlorpheniramine maleate with that, all in one glass. Bottoms away...

Sidenote: I think I found a new dab/(variety of stuff) dab related today or the place she ( my friend, nothing more and plus she is a nurse ) gets her stuff from,a bit pricey cause it's in an up market area but still in my budget, especially now that I stopped all my other shitty sideline activities. Was her I smoked it up with the previous night and damn can she smoke lol.

 

[Oldskipper]

Well seeing as I can't sleep and it's like half 4 the morning. I just had a small blade size joint of skywalker so roughly 0.6-7g the way I roll. Heating up the dab rig to smoke some Honeycomg Tangerine Dream, got 2g today with 12g of 3 varieties of Flower. Wait...

Tick
Tock

I'm fuct hahaha

Yay that dab ( cough ) I mean 2 has got my head spinning and locked into this couch. Gonna sip a dbl vodka and vanilla Coke with 20mg diazepam, 5mg methadone ( yeah its small but don't hate, I have like 2l of it ) oh and another 8mg Chlorpheniramine maleate with that, all in one glass. Bottoms away...

Sidenote: I think I found a new dab/(variety of stuff) dab related today or the place she ( my friend, nothing more and plus she is a nurse ) gets her stuff from,a bit pricey cause it's in an up market area but still in my budget, especially now that I stopped all my other shitty sideline activities. Was her I smoked it up with the previous night and damn can she smoke lol.

It's 6.23 am here, my small pile of coke is smaller and the beer is running out! I'm guessing your American? You guys have all kinda sheepskin rugs I can't even pronounce! Tangerine dream hash I'm familiar with however.. 12€ a g in the local coffeeshop, heerlijk!

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Hey all
Well since 12:30, the time all my shit was done I started with a quart beer then followed by a quart flying fish then followed with vodka and vanilla Coke while smoking some more dabs.

Yeah this new place is a score on the dab section just a bit out of my way in the distance having to travel apartmwnt or drive but worth it. Got
2g honeycomb tangerine dream
1g shatter Tutti Fruity
2x 1.2g prerolled AAA Blue Dream
5g Green Crack flower
10g Tropicana flower ( hybrid, 70% sativa dominant )
And as a freebie 1x Mars stick that =
Cannabis Bud: Various premium Indoor Hydro Cannabis Strains
Poetency: Extremely Potent!
Kief: Moroccan Hash Strain
Brushed in 98% THC Distillate
Grade: AAA Bud

So yeah a good score for the week and today, but for now I'm out need sleep.

Awe all