Cocaine How do you actually judge COKE quality?

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

If it is cut with an INACTIVE ingredient -- usually not so much problem (Long as ya aint banging or cooking it)..... ACTIVE INGREDIENTS... Unacceptable.... Best of luck though coke sucks now days.

Melting point? Bleach test? Full GC/MS NMR if you bout that life

 

[nato23]

and isnt it a problem cut? I read about levamisole being a cut and that being a problem....??

Levamisole seems to have stopped being detected as much in recent samples according to the test results on Wedinos.

More forgiving and less awful cuts are being picked up like Tropacocaine, Norcocaine, Phenacetin.

 

[opiandy]

The best quality coke I've ever had I scored in Jamaica back in 1997. We took a cruise for a high school graduation trip. All my friends got off and rode with a cabby and smoked weed. I got off the ship by myself and got some blow. My driver stopped in the middle of a two-way alley as wide as one car in downtown Ocho Rios, left the car running with me in it, and ran in a building and came back out with the best coke I've had in my life.

I've had the fish scale coke, and it's really good, don't get me wrong, but this was unreal.

It looked almost like amber, but more yellow. I compared it at the time to a mix of amber and yellow Dial soap. Not quite as see through as amber but less orange and more yellow and a little more dense like the soap.

I was fairly experienced with coke at the time and would easily rail a line of fish scale 3-4" long with ease. I cut a line out of the Jamaica coke maybe 3/4" long, one for me and one for my buddy. We laid on our bunks in the cabin of the cruise ship for what seemed like an hour but was probably 20 minutes and didn't say a word. Numb as fuck. Then we were jacked for the rest of the night. Of course, we kept hitting small bumps all night, but it was so clean. The come down didn't feel dirty like you needed to do more or you were going to die. It wasn't pleasant, but it was different.


I haven't had anything like it in 30 years.

I would love to have some of that again.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

yupp 99-01 I had access to that grade but I didnt graduate till 06 so I was a little young to appreciate good blow.

I remember snorting a QG and ending up naked sweating in my parents bathroom with the door locked throwin cold water on my numb face....

Unfortunately the best answer is "A test bump / line" and than if it is fented you dead -- if it has meth in it you up all night etc

 

[Just a little pinprick]

Hey, I’ve been reading a lot here and trying to understand how people actually judge coke quality in real life.



There’s a lot of talk about things like texture, stickiness, dryness, smell, how it breaks up, etc., but also a lot of conflicting opinions.



I’m especially curious if anyone here ever had something that was actually tested (reagent or even lab) and then compared it with what they expected.



If you’re up for sharing:

- how did it look/feel? (powdery, clumpy, sticky, dry, “fluffy”, etc.)

- any noticeable smell?

- how did it behave physically? (breaking up, dissolving, moisture)

- and how did the effects compare to what you expected?



Also curious if anything surprised you — like something that looked “good” but wasn’t, or the opposite.



Not looking for sources or anything like that, just trying to understand how reliable these signs really are in practice.



Appreciate any insight.

I only ever heard of one way to test it at home and after seeing your thread I Googled it and it said it’s true,so here it goes. You’ll need a scale,triple beam preferably,we’ll use a gram to make the math easy,if you get a gram of coke and cook it with baking soda to make freebase/crack ,if it’s pure after cooking you should get 9/10 of a gram of freebase/crack back.The 1/10 is a loss that happens because of the chemical reaction that happens when cooking it with the baking soda,you’re removing the hydrochloride..I believe I got that right.When I use to smoke I used to check it by weight before and after occasionally and if I got back 3/4 the weight that I started with I’d be happy as a pig in shit…

Then when I switched to shooting coke if I seen like an oil slick look to it ,it would also smell slightly I knew it was good coke,to see the oil slick you’d need to use a metal spoon,a white,or black plastic spoon or water bottle top you couldn't see it.

Take a peek at what I found on Google regarding it,

“The Chemistry of the Loss

• • Removing the Hydrochloride: Powder cocaine is a salt (cocaine hydrochloride). When you cook it with baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and water, a chemical reaction occurs that strips away the hydrochloride portion to leave behind the "free base" form (crack). [1, 2, 3]
  • The Yield: The hydrochloride part accounts for about 11% of the weight of pure powder cocaine. Therefore, 1 gram of 100% pure cocaine powder chemically yields a maximum of about 0.89 grams of pure crack cocaine base. [1]

Because of this chemical weight loss, 1 ounce (28.35 grams) of pure cocaine powder yields a maximum mathematical return of roughly 0.89 ounces (about 25.23 grams) of pure crack.

Why Some "Get an Ounce Back" in Reality
If someone cooks an ounce of street cocaine and gets an exact ounce (or more) of crack back, it is due to two factors:

1. • Leftover Baking Soda: In standard "street" cooking methods, unreacted baking soda and water remain trapped inside the dried rocks, artificially inflating the final weight. [1]
   • Cutting Agents: Street cocaine is rarely pure. It is heavily diluted with other white powders and adulterants. Many of these cutting agents do not wash out during the boiling process and end up locked into the final product, adding to the total weight. [1, 2, 3, 4] “

 

[Esperighanto]

and isnt it a problem cut? I read about levamisole being a cut and that being a problem....??

Yeah, there aren't any good trivial ways to get levamisole out of blow tragically, and it's often cut quite close to the source of extraction.

 

[Bumblebear]

I was told it was good if it dissolved good in water
One time got stuff and it wouldn't dissolve clear
I bang my stuff and I just eye ball it so hard to kind of give a better opinion

 

[Psychonauticunt]

I have had the privilege of sometimes getting very high-purity coke and having the opportunity to have several batches tested in a lab, and gotten back results indicating purity (some progressive parts of Europe let you do this yourself, not only at the police's request).

Cocaine has a given set of physical standard properties which are the most reliable. First, it has a melting point of just about 200°C (so like 380-390 F???), so if you have a hot plate or such and a thermometer you can test when it starts to melt. It is remarkably water soluble - pure HCl dissolves into water at about 2 grams per millilitre.

You can, and I often would, do as just a little pinprick above suggested: make freebase from it. A gram for pure HCl, when properly basified, should yield 0,9 grams of cocaine freebase. If you use a stronger base than baking soda, such as ammonia, you will be left with a purer product, but this is not OTC in many countries.
However, the problem still remains that you have no idea, without a lab test, what it's been cut with and as such, exactly how pure it is. Except if you get 0,89 grams per gram, in which case it was as pure as the Virgin Mary - otherwise, you are left to speculate which cuts are those which survive the crack-cookery, and how much is due to you having fumbled it a bit. Same with the solubility: few cuts are as readily soluble as cocaine, so how quickly a small amount dissolves into a bit of water is not gonna tell you much.

Obviously you should just about always expect it to be cut. That said, usually it does appear to have a clumpy, shiny character to it usually, white in color. The smell can vary from pretty mild, rather stale and unpleasant, to like literal gasoline. It should readily crumble under pressure, though it should not easily crush into fine powder - or at least does not stay in that form for very long, as it absorbs atmospheric moisture and flakes or clumps up a bit again.

Depending on how much you like or hate sniffing, cocaine (unless nastily cut) is pretty easy on the nose - it's not a good taste on the way up, nor on the way down as it drips down your throat, but that's about it. No burning, no pain. You soon start to go numb too. Cocaine doesn't numb you as quickly as it does when the dentist injects xylocaine right into your gums, nor is the effect as powerful, but it should be noticeable.

That said, I have received cocaine which looked a bit suspect, being the slightest yellowy tinge of off-white and more fluffy and powdery than usual. It was of really high purity, with either some remnant of the synthesis, perhaps being slightly improperly stored, or having been cut with something that immediately changed its appearance; it was cut, but not by very much. I have seen and sampled countless of pretty near flawless "fish scale" imitations that have fallen far, far short of this (and still been of reasonable quality).

So basically - it usually looks and behaves a pretty certain way, but assume it will be cut, and when the makeup and proportion of the cuts is unkown, looking at the cocaine is a little useful, but guarantees nothing. The only way is to try test it - either on yourself, or in a lab.

 

[nato23]

Mexico, about 15 years ago is the best coke I’ve had, it also had a yellow tinge to it - and was almost just like a fine powder. I got in the back of a taxi of a contact I was given.
I dabbed a bit, tasted good so handed over my overly inflated tourist price of $100.
By the time I got out of the taxi and half way up to my hotel room my face went numb.

The closest thing I’ve had to that was this Peruvian pebble that I have access to now - which I’m trying to to spend all my wages on!

 

[Just a little pinprick]

No need to rush things Sir it’ll gladly take your wages and everything else you own , So Im hoping you have better luck then I did….In a nutshell,coke whipped my ass…..