I've only taken Kratom about 10-12 times, but 2 of them I mixed in some alcohol, and both were pleasant...one of the two where I drank some good beers at a brewery while on Kratom was downright EUPHORIC and THE SINGLE best experience I've ever had on Kratom.
But I am thinking that this combination could be...and probably IS...very dangerous because Kratom is also a mild CNS depressant.
I know that it isn't anywhere near the depressant that Oxycodone is but it's still an opioid.
When I have occassionally taken Oxy or Hydro I am VERY STRICT about NEVER having even ONE SINGLE drink on it because I know of the dangers....but I am not sure how dangerous it is to drink on Kratom.
Of course...I should tell everyone that I take Klonopin....so we are talking about a Kratom, Alcohol and Klonopin mix here.....which will surely have EVERYONE telling me that this is downright lethal I am guessing.
Let me just say first off, that I would NEVER recommend anyone to drink while on Klonopin...but for ME PERSONALLY....I have been taking Klonopin for 10 years and have gotten drunk probably about 1,000 times on Klonopin and that wouldn't count how many countless more times I've had just a couple drinks on Klonopin.....and NEVER ONCE had a bad experience or felt in any danger...
HOWEVER...I am well aware that this is probably simply because I have a MASSIVE tolerance to both Klonopin and alcohol and I take a fairly low dose of Klonopin.
Therefore, drinking on Klonopin doesn't scare me...though it probably SHOULD...and no one else should do it.
I have also found the Kratom + Klonopin mixture to not feel dangerous...and I didn't feel like I was in danger the two times I had about 5 or 6 drinks on Kratom and Klonopin (it takes me about 10 drinks to get drunk so I wasn't drunk....).
However, I am quite hesitant, as well I probably should be, to actually go beyond a few beers or glasses of wine while on Kratom and my Klonopin to the point of actually BEING DRUNK while on both and I want to see if others agree that this is something I should avoid doing???
The one thing I remember from the time that I drank about 5 beers at a brewery while on Kratom and my Klonopin is that along with the fact that I had a very distinctly different euphoria from that which either Kratom or alcohol alone can create.....is that I FELT MORE DRUNK more easily......I felt drunk on about 5-6 beers when usually it takes me 10 beers to get drunk.
Most of you are probably saying "well no shit you did, you are on 3 CNS depressants".....
So....IF at the VERY LEAST I am going to be an idiot and combine ANY amount of alcohol with Kratom and Klonopin....would most of you not agree that the smarter thing would be too take the Kratom FIRST and THEN SLOWLY drink so that I can gauge the effects of the alcohol and stop when I realize I am getting too drunk??
This seems to me like the "smartest" way to do a VERY STUPID thing.......
See, this weekend I am going to a party and I KNOW I will be getting shitfaced drunk...but I was contemplating taking Kratom before drinking.
Now I am thinking that's not a good idea....because 1) I'd rather drink more than drink less while on Kratom this time 2) I think too much alcohol on Kratom would be dangerous.
Would people here agree??
It seems to me that the most dangerous way of doing something like this..which is CLEARLY already a dangerous thing to do....would be to get really drunk and THEN take Kratom because at that point you can't gauge your effects as you gradually get more inebriated as you can if you take the Kratom FIRST and THEN start SLOWLY drinking...
Would people agree with me that this is a "smarter" way to do this (already stupid) combination??
I would also like to know about any users experiences with mixing alcohol and Kratom....and even more about people's experiences mixing Alcohol, Kratom and benzos.
I am well aware that this is dangerous...but I would like others opinions and experiences on the level of danger of having JUST A FEW drinks on Kratom and Klonopin.....as well as any other experiences of drinking more while on Kratom.
It just might be that I'll end up taking the stance that I should NEVER have even a SINGLE drink on Kratom...just as I already would not do so on Oxycodone or Hydrocodone.
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But I am thinking that this combination could be...and probably IS...very dangerous because Kratom is also a mild CNS depressant.
I know that it isn't anywhere near the depressant that Oxycodone is but it's still an opioid.
When I have occassionally taken Oxy or Hydro I am VERY STRICT about NEVER having even ONE SINGLE drink on it because I know of the dangers....but I am not sure how dangerous it is to drink on Kratom.
Of course...I should tell everyone that I take Klonopin....so we are talking about a Kratom, Alcohol and Klonopin mix here.....which will surely have EVERYONE telling me that this is downright lethal I am guessing.
Let me just say first off, that I would NEVER recommend anyone to drink while on Klonopin...but for ME PERSONALLY....I have been taking Klonopin for 10 years and have gotten drunk probably about 1,000 times on Klonopin and that wouldn't count how many countless more times I've had just a couple drinks on Klonopin.....and NEVER ONCE had a bad experience or felt in any danger...
HOWEVER...I am well aware that this is probably simply because I have a MASSIVE tolerance to both Klonopin and alcohol and I take a fairly low dose of Klonopin.
Therefore, drinking on Klonopin doesn't scare me...though it probably SHOULD...and no one else should do it.
I have also found the Kratom + Klonopin mixture to not feel dangerous...and I didn't feel like I was in danger the two times I had about 5 or 6 drinks on Kratom and Klonopin (it takes me about 10 drinks to get drunk so I wasn't drunk....).
However, I am quite hesitant, as well I probably should be, to actually go beyond a few beers or glasses of wine while on Kratom and my Klonopin to the point of actually BEING DRUNK while on both and I want to see if others agree that this is something I should avoid doing???
The one thing I remember from the time that I drank about 5 beers at a brewery while on Kratom and my Klonopin is that along with the fact that I had a very distinctly different euphoria from that which either Kratom or alcohol alone can create.....is that I FELT MORE DRUNK more easily......I felt drunk on about 5-6 beers when usually it takes me 10 beers to get drunk.
Most of you are probably saying "well no shit you did, you are on 3 CNS depressants".....
So....IF at the VERY LEAST I am going to be an idiot and combine ANY amount of alcohol with Kratom and Klonopin....would most of you not agree that the smarter thing would be too take the Kratom FIRST and THEN SLOWLY drink so that I can gauge the effects of the alcohol and stop when I realize I am getting too drunk??
This seems to me like the "smartest" way to do a VERY STUPID thing.......
See, this weekend I am going to a party and I KNOW I will be getting shitfaced drunk...but I was contemplating taking Kratom before drinking.
Now I am thinking that's not a good idea....because 1) I'd rather drink more than drink less while on Kratom this time 2) I think too much alcohol on Kratom would be dangerous.
Would people here agree??
It seems to me that the most dangerous way of doing something like this..which is CLEARLY already a dangerous thing to do....would be to get really drunk and THEN take Kratom because at that point you can't gauge your effects as you gradually get more inebriated as you can if you take the Kratom FIRST and THEN start SLOWLY drinking...
Would people agree with me that this is a "smarter" way to do this (already stupid) combination??
I would also like to know about any users experiences with mixing alcohol and Kratom....and even more about people's experiences mixing Alcohol, Kratom and benzos.
I am well aware that this is dangerous...but I would like others opinions and experiences on the level of danger of having JUST A FEW drinks on Kratom and Klonopin.....as well as any other experiences of drinking more while on Kratom.
It just might be that I'll end up taking the stance that I should NEVER have even a SINGLE drink on Kratom...just as I already would not do so on Oxycodone or Hydrocodone.
Thanks