Honestly, I always hear people say they have been doing H, or other opiates for 5+ years and I am just curious if there's some secret to supporting a habit for this long.
I know I shouldn't be doing opiates and they only lead you to a hole, but I am at a point in my life where I have little responsibilities and a lot of spending money.
Hit the pause button for me. [ || ] *click*
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You want to think about what you posted here. I have met people who did heroin for longer than 5 years. Even before I started using, I knew I couldn't have kept it up for that long. As years pass on and you continue to use, it becomes a quality of life issue. Despite having little responsibility and "a lot of spending money", you need to realize that no matter how much money you have, unless you're loaded to the point of being set for life, have enough money in a mutual fund that you're getting $50 to $100 grand a year back in interest alone, rich as fvkk whatever...you're still going to be able to go through a good portion of your money through heroin.
And the more money you have, the more stuff you can get. Personally, I am not rich...when I was using, I personally could never get over a gram at the most. Also, when I'd get a gram, it'd have to last me at least a few days if not closer to the better part of a week.
If you have enough money to buy a gram of heroin every day, and actually doing so isn't an issue...you really, REALLY need to reconsider going down that path. Ignoring the monetary aspect - if you don't mind spending through some money every day, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. There's a lot of drugs one can do every now and then and have a great time. However, I plead to you to hear me out.
I've met someone who had the money to be supporting whatever habit they wanted. They got half an oz of heroin at a time (absolute most I've ever seen at one time...it was beautiful and I could have drooled looking at it).
This person...all they did was sit down and snort lines. They didn't really do much else but sit there and nod out. The occasional walk outside to have a cigarette or walk to the bathroom was as far as this person ventured. Watching someone sit in the same place for hours, snorting as much dope as they can...not a care in the world...
can you start to see why I'm trying to warn you about this?
If you don't have much to do in life (work, school, family, what have you etc..) then you can end up doing heroin and that's great and all...but if you have absolutely no responsibilities, you're going to end up not doing much or going anywhere.
If you have responsibilities and are using heroin, they can almost keep you in check (you have to use then go do life to come back to use, you can't avoid life and then have to avoid drugs to catch up with life - you find the perfect medium, even if you have to move hell and earth to achieve this medium). When I used, I didn't sit there and drool all over myself, and I surely didn't abuse the fuck out of it like it was cocaine.
For me, I would get where I would want to be (a good high), and would go out and do something for 4, maybe 6 hours. I wouldn't keep re-dosing every hour or so. For me, heroin was a great motivator to do essentially anything I needed to. I saw in others how heroin could distract people from being motivated, and can make you infinitely lazy when all you want to do is be led to the hole you speak of. For me, I avoided being pulled down into this hole. Some people leap down there as fast as they can.
Can you see the different parallels I'm trying to create here?
Just because one has a lot of extra spending money and few responsibilities doesn't mean they will end up becoming a sedentary junkie. And just because someone lacks money and has a lot of responsibilities doesn't mean they won't end up becoming a sedentary junkie (HOMELESS PEOPLE).
I just think you're more likely to do things if you need to, and to just "sit there" if you have nothing more to do but...well...sit there.
Does that make sense to anyone else here besides me?
At the beginning of December I had been using H for around 3 months and I was snorting 7-8 bags in one line, and it was only getting me high for an hour. I was consuming a brick in 2 days.
That's a very large tolerance. Most people would have turned to the needle at this point BTW, but the person I was referring to earlier in my post never IV'd, just snorted. I guess it's easier when you have enough money that it doesn't matter since you're going to go out and buy more anyways, so you choose to snort it. The person I was referring to, I saw them snort a whole gram in one line before...and I thought they were going to OD, but didn't, I was shocked.
I don't hang out with H users anymore, most of them are sketch balls anyways.
So I'm wondering is my tolerance so high because of my use of 80s in the past? Or is shooting really the answer? Does tolerance increase slower with IV use? Or do people misrepresent their use (i.e. I've been using for 6months combined but would say one year and exclude my sober time)? Do I just use to frequently? Is taking subs when you can't afford H in an active habit just keeping your tolerance to high? How can you hold a job and go through withdrawal (which would lower your tolerance right?)
Well, there's a lot of factors that are missing here. For one, your tolerance goes up because you're getting high in the same place over and over, and this is known as environmental tolerance. Typically, users complete their ritual in the same place, and eventually the cues that you see (every time leading up to using) signal your brain you're about to get a large dose of dope. Your body prepares itself by increasing heart rate, breathing, etc so as to counter the physical effects of the drug.
If you use in a new place than you used to, the environmental cues are missing, and you will get higher than usual because your body won't be expecting the dose.
Tolerance increases faster when you're using more frequently, whether that be IV or snorting. If you're snorting as much as you said you were, it's clear you're using too frequently. When snorting, you should wait 6 to 8 hours before re-dosing, and when IVing you should wait 4 to 8 hours, depending on how you feel. You can IV a lot in a little period of time, especially if you're trying to chase the rush you get within the first half hour after administration. However, if you space shots out by 4 hours minimum, your tolerance will still grow but it will grow at a much slower rate.
If you're snorting H like it's coke and you keep re-dosing every half hour, your tolerance will skyrocket very rapidly.
Is there something I am missing, or does having an opiate addiction just really suck this bad after only 3-6 months?
Yes, it gets hard within the first 6 months. And that's if you're slowly building up tolerance, not rapidly.
Finally, there are 2 final points I'd like to point out.
Your dose of suboxone is more than likely way too high for your tolerance and is only keeping it up, not helping you lower it (you shouldn't need to use more than 8mg of it a day, and 2mg to 4mg max per day is optimal). It might not be because you didn't post it, but most people get RX'd to 8mg 2x a day, and that shit's ridiculous, even when you're slamming that shit.
Last thing: if you are going to be a junkie, then you're going to be a junkie. You will eventually learn how often to IV based on your own individual body and how it effects you, and you'll do it as optimally as possible so as to get the max effect for every rush, and will be getting a rush every time.
You really don't want to do this though. It might seem all great and everything, but building up your tolerance to heroin for more than just a few months is a lot to handle, and I want to stress to you the importance of moderation.
I have met someone who used heroin for over 5 years (7 to be exact). She is an alcoholic, has cirrhosis of the liver, has hepatitis (C, but I'm not sure, could be B?), smokes cigarettes, and has (or has had, I haven't seen this person for years, I couldn't even tell you if they're still alive) obvious neurotic issues. You can tell she's still trying to get her life together after quitting IV heroin. If you do go down the road to IVing any drug, let alone heroin, please: don't share needles. Use a clean one every time. If you're that rich buy a lot of rigs and pass them out to anyone who wouldn't have used a fresh one every time otherwise. And before you try IVing any drug, do the research and be prepared to take care of a medical consequence to a missed shot, etc. Finally, it's important also to have people with experience on board, you don't want to be IVing your first time w/o anyone there that knows what's going on.
Honestly, if you have plenty of extra money, go out and buy an ounce or a QP of some dank weed. Smoke that for the next few months or however long it takes you to go through it. Afterwards you'll feel a lot better, knowing you didn't blow through the same amount of money for a way shorter period of time. Hell if, LSD or mushrooms are around, buy some of those.
Stay away from heroin unless you're ready to go down such a path.
