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How can you hold a Dope/Opiate habit for 5-10+years?

Binge Artist said:
^not to sidetrack the thread, but what you describe above, about going to dangerous places to do dangerous things, is what draws a lot of people to heroin. Fortunately, I was never to the point where it was a "matter of desperation", but trips to the hood were always a big thrill for me.
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I'm clean 3 months(suboxone) but when i was using dope trips to the hood where always like another high for me, It's like an adrenalin rush to go to Camden and cope with all the dangers of been rubbed and cops...I would never switch doing this with just going to pharmacy to get your drugs. Fortunately I was never rubbed but was pulled over by the copes couple of times, I don't look like a junky and I drive luxury car so even when copes stopped me they let me go but they new what I was doing there.
 
i had a black tar habit for over 7 years. the only way for me to get the amount i wanted was to sell. once i had a few clients they were very loyal and i was able to do this with a minimum of clients. since i had a 1 to 2 gram habit per day - i was moving approx. 5-7 grams/day. also this is much cheaper to purchase in this amount - but you must first work up to the appropriate buy money.
thank god i quit.
i totally agree that the time went by in the blink of an eye... and i just wish i had all those years back to do something worthwhile even though i really enjoyed nodding and sleeping all that time - LOL
i have been almost 7 years clean as of a year ago - when i started dabbling in poppy pod tea.
also i wanted to mention that for the very serious opiate lover; H is best done at home and with all comforts. when i was dealing and using virtually everyone of my clients had a place to go home to... so they were maintaining their habits with working, hustling, etc.

djh
 
I first did heroin 15 years ago, for the past ten I was on it more often than not. I've been clean almost a year, now. I was once clean for three straight years and then my dog died and I was back on it within a week and stayed on it for four years, daily.

Sometimes, I feel like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop, and as soon as some new crisis arises, I'll be back on it. :\

I used to be able to dabble in it now and then and forget about it in between sessions, but that became harder and harder to do as time went by.
 
the only way i can keep doing opiates is by dosing on suboxone once every 2-3 days ........ LOL

i guess its maintence but i really try to spread the doses out as much as possible
 
I've was doing smack from age 15-20. Its called a fucking job and scamming people for money. I've known quite a few people in there 50s and 60s who have been doing heroin since they were in there early 20's. Do the math. They're technique? They don't shoot it, they snort it. They also maintain and never really "get high". They buy two bags in the morning on the way to work. They sniff one in the a.m. and one in the p.m. Oh, sometimes they'd do a 3rd or 4th in between. So there you go, some are more "lucky" then others. ( as in they don't fucking die from infections of overdoses) They get to wake up and do the SAME shit for the rest of their lives, being a fucking junkie. Theres your answer. If you can't be a junkie for awhile, then what CAN you possibly fucking be.
 
PureLife said:
I've was doing smack from age 15-20. Its called a fucking job and scamming people for money. I've known quite a few people in there 50s and 60s who have been doing heroin since they were in there early 20's. Do the math. They're technique? They don't shoot it, they snort it. They also maintain and never really "get high". They buy two bags in the morning on the way to work. They sniff one in the a.m. and one in the p.m. Oh, sometimes they'd do a 3rd or 4th in between. So there you go, some are more "lucky" then others. ( as in they don't fucking die from infections of overdoses) They get to wake up and do the SAME shit for the rest of their lives, being a fucking junkie. Theres your answer. If you can't be a junkie for awhile, then what CAN you possibly fucking be.
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Except one bag barely takes me out of withdrawal, and 3 or 4(even at once) wouldn't make me high, so I am asking whats the motivation to keep doing this if I can just pay 1/4 the price and not have to spend my day in the hood and feel normal from suboxone?

If I can't be a junkie I could always go back to a normal life? And not waste ages 15-20 doing smack all the time?

Did you even read anything I posted other than the title of the thread?
 
I don't think the junkie/heroin route or the chronic patient/legal pharmie route are either one a picnic, and usually neither really understands the hardships of the other. I know I don't understand the heroin user's plight as I have never been there....but I can sympathize with it.

But if anyone thinks the chronic pain patient has it made in the shade because he picks up his pills every month and they are legit so no worries...., well, let me just say you might be surprised.

Doctors just look at you incredulously when you describe you pain to them and point out that opiates are the only treatment that has any positive effect any longer. Only 1 in 4 or 5 will prescribe anything useful, and then mostly in such small quantites that it creates more problems than it solves. When you finally find a doctor who understands your plight, than a few short months later the insurance from your work changes, and your compassionate doctor is no longer covered under your insurance plan....and so you are cut off and began the search all over for an new source. Meanwhile, you go start going through withdrawls for he umpteenth time while you are looking. This repeats itself every year, because your employer goes with a new insurance carrier every year because of the incentives the new company offers to get their business. I have literally had dozens of doctors over the span of a few short years.

I've had doctors refuse to give me anything at all, saying in their exact words "The pain won't kill you".

I've had doctors that have said they don't give out painkillers for longer than a 2 week timeframe - oh yes, that's a common one.

Meanwhile, you are trying to stay legal, so you just grin and bear it and just lay up in bed if the pain is too great to get out, or sit glued to your couch and watch the minutes go by while your pain throbs and keeps time with the second hand.

You are often looked upon as a degenerate by the pharmacies, and you see the techs and the counter people giving you kinds of strange looks as they wonder why someone like you needs such a strong opiate without even being in a wheelchair. Most of your friends and even your wife may think you are an addict, as you time and time again describe to them the difference between addiction and dependence.

Oh yeah...give me that easy lifestyle with insurance, pain doc with the prescription pad and the quick pen rather than the hard life of dealers, dark alleyways and dingy hotel rooms.

If I have a choice, please don't give me either one, thank you very much.
 
^ i have never been a chronic pain patient but i have been on the heroin route of things. you pointed out a few things i did not know. i also believe some ppl put off the pain script route just b/c its legal and think its easy but its not that easy. i don't know if its as hard as the heroin life but to each his own. good post!
 
chrisinabox said:
^ i have never been a chronic pain patient but i have been on the heroin route of things. you pointed out a few things i did not know. i also believe some ppl put off the pain script route just b/c its legal and think its easy but its not that easy. i don't know if its as hard as the heroin life but to each his own. good post!
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I would rather have an addiction to illegal prescription drugs than a chronic pain problem and all the pills I want legally.
 
Ive been addicted to opiates for about 8 years and the time seems to have flown by.
 
ugrl said:
Ive been addicted to opiates for about 8 years and the time seems to have flown by.
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What is you tolerance like? How many breaks did you have between using short-term and long-term. (i.e. you get high twice a day, and you use for 3 months, then are clean/sub/methd for 3 months)?
 
PillPoppingAnimal said:
i know a lot of people who would NOT agree to that.
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And they probably have never met someone in serious chronic pain, and the debilitating/crippling conditions that they go hand in hand with.

Also note the higher dosages of pain pills(more recreational value) the worse your problem will have to be.
 
Iv been doing dope for 5+ years on and off, and you want to be on and not have to deal with being sick and shit you have to hussle. I wont go into that, but you gots to hussle that shit. Be on the top of your game, otherwise stronger motherfuckers are gonna see you and chew you up and use you for what your worth. Look out!!
 
alexxlife said:
I'm clean 3 months(suboxone) but when i was using dope trips to the hood where always like another high for me, It's like an adrenalin rush to go to Camden and cope with all the dangers of been rubbed and cops...I would never switch doing this with just going to pharmacy to get your drugs. Fortunately I was never rubbed but was pulled over by the copes couple of times, I don't look like a junky and I drive luxury car so even when copes stopped me they let me go but they new what I was doing there.
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Brings back good ol' memories!

Back when I lived in DC, I used to take trips to the Arthur Capper homes (in southeast), wearing a sweater vest or a tie!

Sometimes, after emerging from the murky ghetto depths, at approximately i street, a cop would stop me and ask me what I was doing back there (notice, he didn't stop me when I was actually "back there", because most cops didn't like to go too far south of j street).

"Sorry officer, I was trying to get to Eastern Market, but accidently got off at the Navy Yard...I figured I'd walk the difference"
 
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