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House of Commons debate on UK Drugs Policy today

I had to miss the end of it, but the conclusion was apparently that current policy doesn't work and that evidence for change needs to be looked at. Which is promising, but I won't be holding my breath..
 
It's good to see the discussion coming to the fore. However, cynically I feel it is about "setting our their stalls" for the next election. Vote tactics..
 
If the last general election is anything to go by, even the flimsiest gestures can woo an awful lot of voters (I'm looking at you people who ticked the yellow box).

I didn't see the debate because I was in work, but from reading people's posts, some encouraging noises are being made.

Unfortunately I can see 'reviewing drug policy' being one of those manifesto pledges which suddenly evaporate after the election. I could be wrong, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm rarely wrong.
 
Well it's been in the Green Party's manifesto for as long as I can remember, so at least they're not just going for the druggie vote. Plus they're the only ones that used to promote testing kits etc for harm reduction too, so I'm pretty surpportive of them.
 
Aye, they always seem to make sense with their policies.

Trouble is, we live in a two-party state, something which the last election emphatically confirmed (ironically through the emergence of a third party as a player).

Under a different system I wouldn't hesitate to vote Green, but as it is, I fear they'll only split the 'left' vote even further should they gain any serious momentum. And yes, I know that none of the Big Three can lay any claim to being 'left' of Maggie Fuckin' Thatcher, but I'd rather take my neoliberalism with even the stingiest dash of social democracy than suffer another Tory government.

Pragmatism sucks, but sometimes you just have to hold your nose.
 
Sammy G said:
Unfortunately I can see 'reviewing drug policy' being one of those manifesto pledges which suddenly evaporate after the election. I could be wrong, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm rarely wrong.
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You're never bloody right, give over. However, I'll give you this one as I think you are 99.9% correct.

Well done on the improvements =D
 
Do you think I'd do our cause justice if I managed to belligerently barge my way on stage and tell them the drugs told me to do it? Then space out and instantly make my intended purpose known, which would be presented with coherent points with respectable sources.who studied and used body language effectively. Had done extensive research on the participating people including who they were and why they held their views. I'd speak perfect queens english, is a deep knowledgable, interesting narration tone, perfect timing, articulate, knowledgeable, made appropriate facial expressions and eye contact, employed active listening and various NLP type mind tools not every one is fully aware of it. Had a huge 4 life times of knowledge of my source material salient points and any potential counter argument memorised, trainman style, Re-read how to win friends and influence people twice that week, then, spoke back with good manners, logic, backed up by a consistent, solid argument, broke down to be appropriate in word usage for whichever question and person I talked to, only quoted from studies viewed most highly within academia, using the home offices own data against them if possible if not focus on the most widely acepted reputable study(s), prepare prepare prepare, listen, but dismantle any stupidity gracefully, with respect. But also quickly and throughly counter all perceived counter arguments that may be employed... risk using obvious or unnecessary character assignations bringing force past quotes and misquotes only if needed. Only condescend with an air of slight superiority if needed (justified by my past job experience in the field as fastandbulbous' only real teacher and also carried out personal volunteer work done on shlolgens ranch.

Mention people chosen by government because of their job(s)/academic field of study... but they sack people like Dr Nut (call him dr. walnut. so he sounds less nutty. because of a simple true quote about MDMA deaths being less limey to kill someone than falling off a horse. Whoa nelly that was a bit too truthful Lucky he wasn't called Dr David kelly and was threatening immediate unsanctioned action against sanctions against those pesky WMDs or thome york may have to make a newer harrwdown hill track on eraser 2. Don;t gorget to appeal to any sun readers who had turned up wrongly thinking it was legoland day and they were owed coupons that actually expired a week or so ago, have a telly tubby program set up with drug highs as telly tubby characters, baby them if needed, all while being as pleasant and consise and cunning as a fox that studied at cunningham university and on the ball enough to not drop my sparkling water. sharper than Oscar Wilde witticisms rolled up into a point, dipped into lemon juice and jabbed through a small fluffy animals eye. Was hard hitting but polite, respectful and smoke the truth up replacing it with easy to breath vapours, that they might just not listen to any of that cus I'm a nobody in my scientific field but then they listen to MPs with no knowledge over their hated self appointed truth speaking panels of experts I just don't know? who or what to believe, the government clearly doesn't know either. Or do I kist need to have gone to one of those fancy schools like the PM and his fat (or not so fat) 'bothers and sisters to join the true debate and have chance of anyone listening to me?

I suppose they pretend to listen to russel brand, I need to get my hair out there, become famous and then and only then may i be respected (if you can call it that) enough to be considered a worthy member of the drug debate who isn't a scientist, mp or mediator/interviewer. Just become a junkie for years and a sex manic/actor/presenter must have helped too He's like multiple stereotypes thrown into one. Also anti-voting, maybe a commie yeah a dirty hairy comie! Perfect, let him dig dis own drug spiked grave out there. We'll show him no one ever changes things around here, not even us! Those dumb hippy voters can't say they aren't being met half way any more! At least we pretend to care about brands very hands on based practical views on addition therapy. but we have an old fossil in the hole, we are clever enough to put Chistopher Hitchens sadly still alive brother (just saying if one had to de, it should have ben this one) on at same time who successfully brings the tone of conversation down every time he opens his fat bigoted head and draws grand in, (actually we aren't sure who is on top if anyone out the two of them, that doesn't matter, as long as brand doesn't get a second to realise he can run verbal circles round this old, mean viewed devoid of empathy arse hole.) Wow, it worked again, he must really hate brand. He is Christian who basked in 2nd best seat while his brother the cool atheist one lived, now he is reduced to being consenting, over-opinionated and hateful of drugs and gays, no wonder he hates Russell! This is brilliant ....thus reducing time for anyone important to hear anything brand has to say! Not that you slags care what he says today to any day, you are just looking at his hair and clothes! Also most men either fancy him or feel threatened by him. You no voting beatniks don't know how good you got it! Parading an ex junkie about like we care what he has to say about the best way to treat heroin addiction! with understanding, not cruel and unneeded punishment! We have said to much. Erm..our scientists know the truth, that... brand is a mere pawn, a simple piece of the puzzle, and always has been. If voters could make any real change by voting we wouldn't allow it! Heh, heh, heh. It's over, cameras off! time to assonate someone we don't like! Only their character though, its no harrowdown hill again, they are far and few between these days.
 
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Afraid to say I'd still rather have a pint with Hitchens than Brand any day.

Brand needs to get back on the meds as soon as. Look at his fucking eyes.
 
ScotchMist said:
Can't do any harm, can it TG..!

Maybe wait til you've put the Peev down =D
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Well I didn't mean me, I meant someone like me, with all those qualifies I am lacking :P Believe it or not I have only had that accidental dose, 15/16 hours ago :s I think it may end up like veing forced to smoke too many cigs (not that I ever was caught smoking. nor would have ben forced to if caught.) because I feel like I have had enough for 2 lifetimes right now (two unquantified lifetimes) Can't wait to feel normal again :S Cus then I can finally tale my 120mg mxe. Muhaha.
Sort of serious but in reality I can't afford not to sleep a 3rd night. I would shatter or die of terminal boneitis. Or crampsitis or something bad that ends in itis (maybe everything that ends in itis is bad.)

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I believe ya... Id rather you take the stand to, qualifications?? Fuck qualifications...

You're the poster child now, 120mg IM PV... something needs to be done ;)
 
I live to tell the tail so other less cool, careful people who utilise their eyes for example, and brain will never make such a heroic mistake and live, again. :) I practically guarantee it!

Not just because of how fucking stupid it was/is but also now unpleasant being wound tighter than an imps tights is, for any extended period, after an hour i had had enough, I still see fuzzy and random temperature flutrations occur. Right next to a freezing cold window which is constant temp pretty much. There have been a number of seemingly random moments where I've needed to take more benzos or booze, if I didn't have either I'd be up shit creek for sure. I'd likely have flicked myself around the house like some kind of mad prickly anxiety pear. As it happens I've just had boughs of chest uncomfortableness, sweats and warped/blurred vision like i used to get when I first smoked t. But persisting for upwards of 19/20 hours now. when will it end :( It will end right? Oh god the fried egg imagery is true, but only on stupidly dosed peeves :( Luckily my brain is functioning as normal, apart from the gitters and, chitters, the tensed up face feeling, the cramps. the ever present feeling I did something stupid, and the excess energy which makes my brain run at over twice the speed of a normal person, or 3 times my base rate speed. Sadly at least half of what extra I say is illegible, repeating nonsensical or just plain dumb. But at least my brain is still functioning enough to be posting the same thing (or a similar theme the the same thing in the wrong thread! Seriously, I want this to stop now :S I'm sure you all want me to stop ranting on too, lets help each other, help each other!
 
You're doing fine TG, and for what it's worth you're still very coherent, so no need to worry about that. Soldier on and it'll be nap-time soon. :)
 
Im happy for you to stay, keep ranting all you like mate.. at least its a minor distraction from an uncomfortable position, very uncomfortable..

It will end, when, dunno...? It cant have much more left in its legs if youve only dosed once, even a monumental dose like that.. you still feel as stimulated as, say, 10 hours ago, or 5?? Theres been no let up at all?

Hope you get some respite soon ol'Tangerine ;)

Carry on carrying on until you dont feel like carrying on.. then hit the sack, maybe leave the mxe til tomorrow, yeah?
 
I was referring to TGs position..

However, seeing as you asked and im all for voicing my discomfort ;) i am uncomfortable, just not very..

withdrawals, withdrawals, withdrawals... only a few days left.. hopefully.. maybe...? 8)
 
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