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"hot rails", anyone?

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Back when I was an innocent lil candy kid, still free from the evil clutches of speed, I used to watch my boyfriend-at-the-time and his friends rack up what they called "hot rails". I don't know what the procedure was exactly, but they had a metal straw. I think they would heat the metal straw with a lighter, then snort the speed through it. I didn't pay much attention at the time but now I REALLY wanna know more about this. I don't know what the effects are meant to be but I do remember them being all like, "DAAAAAAAAMMMNNNN!!!!!" when they did it. So... increased rush? Or maybe it was just painful... but then why the fuck would you do it? They were really, *really* excited about this new method of railing when they discovered it... like they won the lottery or something. so it's gotta be good, right? i'm sooooooo curious!

do you have any experience with "hot railing", Bluelight?
 
I can't think of any reason for doing that...

Unless they were actually vapourising the speed, the only difference I can think of is a hot pipe in nose/cold pipe in nose. But then I'm pretty stupid :)

Anyone?
 
I’ve seen it done when I was living in Los Angeles – using a long glass pipe/tube, one end is super-heated with a butane torch (a lighter won’t really get it hot quick enough, has to be quick so the heat doesn’t travel all the way to the other end of the pipe and burn your mouth /edit I mean nose, not mouth).

Then you take a long line of meth (in LA it was ice/glass/whatever – pure shit) – longer than you could normally snort – then inhale/rail as quick as possible. The meth vaporises as it travels up the pipe, though sometimes some of it gets through (one crazy tweaker described it feeling like meth crystals crackling in your nose) – so it’s similar to smoking except (a) it’s travelling through your sinuses, (b) because it’s vaporising you can get much more in one than smoking it normally.

I never tried it, but it looks impressive. I’ve seen enough smoke exhaled in one go from a dude to fill a small room. Over here you’d also need a lot of money and a high tolerance – the guys I knew would generally rail 1, 2 or 3 points at a time (compare that to the one or two little crystals you’d normally drop in a pipe and smoke relatively slowly). Hence the greatly increased rush - you've basically smoked about 10 regular pipes in one go.

cheers,
hux.
 
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huxley is right, you need a glass pipe so the heat doesn't travel, and you need a jet flame lighter so as to get the bottom end very fucking hot.
Also, you need smokable meth. (uncut crystal)
 
it sounds like fun, so i'm guessing the heat burns the meth while you inhale through your nose.
You should have tried in Huxley when the opportunity arose
 
Make sure it's high quality crystal. A burning chunk of molten toffee from a bit of glucose in a hot rail of cut speed can be uncomfortable lodged in your nostril.

BigTrancer :)
 
Metals conduct heat. The smarter option would simply be to use a vapouriser.
 
I have also known of this concept. The way I have dont it is to throw some crystal into a bulb (light bulb that has been made into a smoking device) vaborise the lot, stick a tube into the bulb and inhale through the nose. Dont realy know how much more affective it is than just inhalling as I have only done it when far gone anyway. But it can be fun. :)
 
Timmmmmy said:
Metals conduct heat. The smarter option would simply be to use a vapouriser.
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That's why you use a glass pipe, as has been stated twice already in the thread.

Also, both you and mongman seem to be completely missing the point, which is to get a hell of a lot more meth into you than you can with a meth pipe.
 
Awesome huxley! That's exactly the kind of stuff I wanted to know - though I doubt I'd try it now that I know that basically you're just smoking a shitload at once. Me being the pathetic little lightweight that I am... think I'll stick to my crackpipe for the time being. ;)

(oh and you say tweeker! yay, i love that word.)
peace.
 
mutant said:
Awesome huxley! That's exactly the kind of stuff I wanted to know - though I doubt I'd try it now that I know that basically you're just smoking a shitload at once. Me being the pathetic little lightweight that I am... think I'll stick to my crackpipe for the time being. ;)

(oh and you say tweeker! yay, i love that word.)
peace.
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no probs - I actually like the word 'crackhead' better than tweaker (some do call meth 'white mans crack') - nothing more endearing than greeting one of your mates with "how you doing you big crackhead!" :D

hux.
 
I'd never heard of this before reading it here last week.
So I had to try it, I was very suss that the meth would just go up the nose as a powder or crystal. I didn't believe it would work until I exhaled.
WOW..... I was puff the dragon, huge amounts of smoke.
The hit was definitely harder hitting than from a pipe but thats cause your taking so much in, in such little time.
I don't smoke much meth, but when I do this will now be the method I use.

Cheers mutant for starting this post, and 3 cheers huxley for giving us detailed instructions.
It has started a little trend with my friends.
 
Also, both you and mongman seem to be completely missing the point, which is to get a hell of a lot more meth into you than you can with a meth pipe
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you could smoke a gram of crystal with a vapouriser if you want Steve. It has what is effectively a one way valve which retains the smoke.

Great for sucking down heinous hits of plasticky DMT goodness;)
 
Certainly sounds promising. May give that a shot. Some of you must have built up a serious toerance if you're railing a point of glass at a time . Shit. I like the lift and euphoria it gives with a "medium: sized rail. Don't like the heart palpation sensation when over amped. I'm sure this smoking method must truly be quite an experience but I wonder how dangerous it is for us older tweakers to be trying this.
 
Timmmmmy said:
you could smoke a gram of crystal with a vapouriser if you want Steve. It has what is effectively a one way valve which retains the smoke.

Great for sucking down heinous hits of plasticky DMT goodness;)
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Serious? I wouldn't mind trying that some day. the main reason why I usually don't bother smoking meth is that I find it nearly impossible to get a decent sized hit in one go. I think meth pipes suck for that reason.
So you can seriously get like a 200mg hit in one go with a vapouriser?
 
edarrin said:
but I wonder how dangerous it is for us older tweakers to be trying this.
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Us older tweekers will be OK :\

I recon there is less chance of overheating the meth doing the "hot rails"
A cleaner burn as well.
 
kooky77 said:
I recon there is less chance of overheating the meth doing the "hot rails"
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The problem lays with the instance where you heat the meth hot enough that it vapourises and any (if there is any) foreign chemicals that have a slightly higher vapourisation point will end up in your nose as an extremely hot solid as opposed to a quickly cooling vapour. You may not end up with nose bleeds but you will certainly end up with the inside of your nose partially cauterised which means you'll never smell bacon again.
 
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