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Holding in the smoke-- higher?

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oykef said:
If you don't cough you don't get off!
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I completely disagree. Coughing has nothing to do with getting high. I never cough when I smoke weed.

You only need to keep it inhaled for 2-3 seconds at the very longest, anything past this is just wasting your time.

Salvia is a different story - but most other drugs that are smoked, like crack, heroin, meth, cannabis, etc - only need 2 to 3 seconds max, if not less, to absorb the active ingredients.
 
^I was under the impression that crack users usually held the smoke down for as long as they could, and I have also found this to be the most effective way to smoke DMT.
 
Vader said:
^Thank you very much. It would be nice if we could get more data though; I think everyone knew that 0 seconds is insufficient and that 20s is ample. I'd like to see a study comparing breath-holding for 2s, 5s, 10s and peak plasma levels of THC.
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I think a more accurate study was published, that was the first one I pulled with a quick google search. I think it was posted on BL around 2005-6.
 
Vader said:
^I was under the impression that crack users usually held the smoke down for as long as they could.
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The thing about crack users though,(without seeming rude to the BL crackheads) are usually not the most educated people. Pretty desperate and don't have much cash to spare. Which ends up in them holding hits as long as possible desperatly trying to stay high..
 
^I think that's an unfair generalisation. Sure, some people are just desperate crackheads, but there are a lot of casual users too (from reading these forums, I get the impression that crack doesn't have quite the same stigma in the States as it does over here, at least among drug users), and I'm sure that people are aware of whether holding smoke in longer results in a more powerful high. The only things I've smoked apart from cannabis are fentanyl, DMT and salvia (not together obv.), and they all seemed to produce the best effects if held down for a long time.
 
I have read up on that since I am a big fan of conserving weed. 3 seconds is really the magic mark from what I have heard, after that you are mostly hurting your lungs and getting a little oxygen deprivation. What does work however is pushing that shit deep into your chest then exhaling as soon as it is all the way to the bottom, if you do it right you should exhale very little smoke. Bongs also get you higher since all the smoke goes from the bowl to deep in your lungs if you do it properly. The other thing that works is just lighting the bowl and not torching, if you torch it a lot less smoke is made for some reason. Not sure as to the exact reason, but I have tested it.

So basically if you want the best hit and the best conservation, buy a smooth hitting glass bong. Pack in like .2 hits, and one or two hit it. That gets me higher then a .3 bowl pack, or a .5 joint.
 
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how is this a question? if you dont hold in the smoke, you don't get AS high. i usually hold the smoke in for 5-10 seconds. i could get away with not holding it in when i was a beginner smoker, but now i need to or i really wont get as high. and all my highs in general are usually medicore with weed alone cause i been smokin so much weed over the years.
 
bad for your lungs, smoke will absorb instantly. vapor hits are what you're supposed to hold in. it absorbs alot slower.
 
Every time this topic comes up, everyone says "I've read up on it", gives a seemingly arbitrary time (which, oddly, is always an integer value when measured in seconds), then gives no source.
 
I imagine it's the same, smoke is cannabinoid vapour contaminated with soot and ash (well, that's one way of looking at it).
 
I refuse to believe anything buy my own experience / conclusions until someone provides solid numbers (sources) that say otherwise.

I have concluded through my own experience that holding in large hits for 10-12 seconds gets me higher than the same hit would if held for 1 - 3 seconds. Of course it could be placebo but this is what I believe after smoking my whole life.

I would love to see some sources though!

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The science says NO.
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What science?
 
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Vader said:
I imagine it's the same, smoke is cannabinoid vapour contaminated with soot and ash (well, that's one way of looking at it).
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I agree. Vap vs Smoke seem to have the same onset time/absorption rate.

As for the actual time frame for holding your breath I believe there could be too many variables to claim a universal absorption rate over time. For example, the lung size of most humans vary quite a bit, depending on build and athleticism. This variable alone could be enough to throw the data off by several seconds!

Even the study posted in this thread describes the subjects as "10 regular marijuana smokers". They don't mention anything about each of their lung capacity, size, ect..


In all practicality though, getting high for me is about being comfortable. That includes not coughing, or unnaturally holding my breath. I do like to get a nice cool lung full, but nothing uncomfortable. Set and setting usually get me way further than a few extra seconds of holding that last hit in...
 
When people talk about this issue, they often say that all the THC is absorbed into your lungs in X seconds.
The only scientific article cited in this thread does not mention this.
I always wonder if they are correct, but they seem to be forgetting that THC is not the only chemical in cannabis that gets you high.
The scientific article above seemed pretty solid, to me at least, though I only read the portion quoted here.
I will be looking out for more science on this issue, which is a very, very important one to many of us looking to get high with the minimal possible physical damage.

(yes, I use a vape whenever I can, but it is not always possible or desirable)
 
I love vape... can't wait for my extreme q tower to come in the mail! It is less smelly(not that I mind the smell of weed, but my boss would probably). I find it also makes your weed last sooo much longer, you vape, and then you cook with what is left of it.

As for DMT, I always try to hold it in as long as possible... otherwise you may not get enough. Salvia too.
 
I read a high times article that said something along the lines of this... within the first second all the thc that you inhale will be release into your lungs, and within 2 seconds all the canabnoids will be released.
 
Obviously you need to inhale the smoke deep into your lungs in order to get a full and proper high that is just common sense or least one would think.
 
I always thought holding the smoke in got you higher, but personally I've never held it in longer than 5 seconds, max.

I was always under the impression with Salvia that you had to hold it in for 10 seconds; well, that's what it says on the pack it came in. Tried holding it in for just a couple of seconds and didn't get the desired high I was hoping for.

When I started smoking heroin, I was told to hold it in for as long as I possibly could. Not so sure about that now, but would be interesting to know...
 
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