Heroin Social: Version 6 (aka. Toot it up while you can)

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yep i know that smell kinda sicklysweet that smells like nothing else - I get it when i switch from h to 'done as well so i guess it must be from the gear.

Nope i get it from just using methadone!

 

[brimz]

Yep my Boyfriend & i notice that am well, although he says he has never noticed off me & i have never noticed off him. Yes i feels like its coming out of every pour in your body, its like all the toxic poisons leaving your body! It makes me feel awful when it happens & its always a reminder that its time to take my methadone!

Its hard to describe what the smell is like? Its unlike anything else, for some reason i think i smells like burned blue-tack, although i have never smelt burned blue-tack before?! But that always springs to mind!

Some nights i'll go to bed & forget to take my methadone (i'm always changing the time of day that i take it) & an hour into my sleep i wake up from a horrible nightmare & i notice the Withdrawal smell & i realize i've forgotten to take my methadone, its a awful feeling!

I'm gonna google it & try & find out why it happens/ what makes it happen?

What you said t'other day really touched me .

You are a true Diamond n i hope to meet you at some point this year.

It's crazy that the folk who been posting on all 13volumes n 6 of the other thread from the start we are all still here.

Like you said i feel n worry about you guys as much as folk that i know or have met on the H scene.

In some ways i feel more for you guys cos in my 16/18 years i4get of using most of the folk i have got down with was just for the drugs .
Not all obviously but tis hard to find folk that really care about anyone but themselves in the gear game

 

[strungout2010]

I have isolated with my using for about the last 12 years , I'm not giving it the big un , but I found I had less and less in common with The people i was having it with ,other then we used gear together. And as for some of there morals well,it just didn't sit right with me.
I really wasn't happy getting my gear money how i was, so I pritty much dropped everyone out and went back to work, out of all the people I run with back then , a couple are dead , others have been in that endless cycle of prison/rehab and
fuck knows what's happened to the others. Hopefully they too have some sort of quality of life , I hope so , but dout it very much. I managed to stay close to one person and he's clean now , we have a very healthy relationship not built on what the fuck we can get out of each other.
But i totally agree with Brimz , iv come across more decent users in 2 years on B/L , than i have in almost 20 years of street using.
My mrs puts it down to the simple fact that B/L users own computers , and are there for a better quality junky..... LOL.

 

[cherrycolouredfunk]

I was told the other day, that if I couldn't handle a three day cold turkey cluck from 4 months of using a gram a day, then Methadone WD's are going to break me. My joints already ache when I move if I've been sat still too long, or when I need my green juice!

I'm dreading it. Dropped from 50 to 40 in just 4 weeks, I can feel it. Which is why I think I've started using on top again. I think I'm going to have green handcuffs for quite some time.

 

[maxalfie]

Its best not to rush yr reduction and feel pressured into doing it either, go at the pace you feel comfortable with.
On a different note, my bad luck continues.
The other day my flatmate spilt my gear on the bed and then I got home from work a little while ago and had saved some gear for when I got home.
Anyway was enjoying my toot and put foil down and lighter and my lighter rolled onto my beetle before it had hardened.
So now trying to scrape gear off lighter with a knife while trying not to scrape any plastic off with it.

 

[endlessnameless]

Thankfully I rarely ever spill my gear, and on the odd occurrence where it has happened it has been in liquid form. The last time, I had spent hours trying to scrape up a further 15 euro in 1's and 2's, eventually got it together after most of the afternoon checking just everywhere, call the guy, go to collect, doesnt show phone off...eventually he calls back after me waiting by the phonebox for two hours, gives me an absolute pip of a bag and as I'm rolling my first line off it doesnt the tray catch fire and the liquid rolls off the opposite end of the tray onto my mattress. I wept.

Still fuckin there of course. Tried scraping it of with a knife one day but it wasnt happening. Eventually desperation got the better of me and I cut a patch of gear encrusted cloth out of the mattress, lobbed it onto foil and began to burn it. I got a line and it seized. Meh, it took the edge off.

On a positive note, my friend just got out of rehab yesterday after 6 weeks detoxing from methadone. Actually @cherrycoloredfunk (*love* the name), I just saw your post about dropping the juice while editing grammar - this guy dropped 5mls every week for 6 weeks; the maximum amount allowed in your system going in being obviously 40mls, and he said it was painless enough but I suppose everyones different. Heading into town with him today so got up early to have a smoke as I dont want to be doing it around him. He's fine with it if I do, but I dont want to - its not fair and he's only out one day, seems so happy and full of promise. Bless.

I myself fancy a whopper :D
Fuckin staaaaaaaaaarvin


PS: Considering buying 100mls of phy week after next and kicking for a few months - gain some weight, get a job and fucking off to New York for a bit (Manhattan Bagel please, yummers indeedy), see if my depression eases off...and if it does, though I however very much doubt it, fuck the skag - seriously, fuck it - especially this muck.

PPS: By the way - if anyone is browsing through the preceding pages of this thread and just so happens upon the post with the instructions for the methadone tapor I'd really appreciate a link to the page please, otherwise I'm sure I'll come across it myself at some point but I just thought I'd slip this in just in case. Thanking you.

 

[blondin]

I was told the other day, that if I couldn't handle a three day cold turkey cluck from 4 months of using a gram a day, then Methadone WD's are going to break me. My joints already ache when I move if I've been sat still too long, or when I need my green juice!

I'm dreading it. Dropped from 50 to 40 in just 4 weeks, I can feel it. Which is why I think I've started using on top again. I think I'm going to have green handcuffs for quite some time.

Dropping 10mls over 4 weeks isnt a big drop (10% a fortnight) which is about right. Its all about the % not the ammount a slow taper which is recomended would drop you 10% a month but at the ammount your taking at the moment you should be able to cope with the drop your talking about - when you get to 30mgs you need to seriously look at dropping by %.

I can get down to 10mgs but never lower and normally keep at 20mgs. After a long run - like im on now i will start on 60-70mgs and drop 5mgs a day - but I can only do that cos i have no 'done in my system

 

[4x4ledbury]

i think the gear coming back in a big way stronger than before but prices still dear because there is no bash available in gloucester the bash dealers have not got anything but there is several with proper gear.
is it that all the bash is gone and the good stuff is slowly moving in has standard because this stuff is better than it has been for years and 1/2 gram will hold you for 24 hours nearly i hope im right
problem is because there is good local my dealer from the next town is ringing up asking why i aint checking him

 

[blondin]

@Brimz did you notice that thread you started got pulled - are the mods here that fucking woosy they dont want a discussion on why one of them was dropped? like they pulled her thread explaining why......ooooooh its all so secret as if anyone gives a fuck.
Your moderators not censors you shouldn't pull threads if you dont agree with them - BIG UP FOR CHINUP

 

[blondin]

I have isolated with my using for about the last 12 years , I'm not giving it the big un , but I found I had less and less in common with The people i was having it with ,other then we used gear together. And as for some of there morals well,it just didn't sit right with me.
I really wasn't happy getting my gear money how i was, so I pritty much dropped everyone out and went back to work, out of all the people I run with back then , a couple are dead , others have been in that endless cycle of prison/rehab and
fuck knows what's happened to the others. Hopefully they too have some sort of quality of life , I hope so , but dout it very much. I managed to stay close to one person and he's clean now , we have a very healthy relationship not built on what the fuck we can get out of each other.
But i totally agree with Brimz , iv come across more decent users in 2 years on B/L , than i have in almost 20 years of street using.
My mrs puts it down to the simple fact that B/L users own computers , and are there for a better quality junky..... LOL.

My goodness old chap as groucho marx said ' Any club that would let me in I wouldn't want to join'

 

[brimz]

No i didn't notice that mate , i think for all the work that Chinup has done in Eadd the least she should get is a thankyou n thats what i was doing thanking her as she helped me out in a couple of dark times

Edit .

The thread i made is still their maybe it has been edited to a degree

 

[Gizmo101]

I definitely get the w/d smell
I have also heard nurses who work on detox wards saying they can smell it
nobody has ever commented to me that they can smell it but it seems quite strong to me and I often wonder if others can smell it too

Glad most of yous noticed it too - im not a freak - not sure bout burning bluetac ructs - metal or copper maybe - its awful 4 sure

 

[hooks]

i think the gear coming back in a big way stronger than before but prices still dear because there is no bash available in gloucester the bash dealers have not got anything but there is several with proper gear.
is it that all the bash is gone and the good stuff is slowly moving in has standard because this stuff is better than it has been for years and 1/2 gram will hold you for 24 hours nearly i hope im right
problem is because there is good local my dealer from the next town is ringing up asking why i aint checking him

Amen to that brother, amen!

The withdrawal smell! Yes, I know it too. It sorta makes me wanna lick my body in case there's any gear in it. However horrible.

About all of us still being on here - it is great, what a crisis can do, eh? I've met some quality people from this website. A word of caution though, if ACTA goes thru then this is just the type of website that'll get the chop, I'm sure of it.

 

[Acidtek]

^^^ that would be super shit mate! I'd hate for this website to axed!

 

[louie the 16th]

It seem's half my life is virtual @ present ! Score alone , smoke alone , fuck i even work alone most times ( although i am surrounded by the walking deaed ) The only folks i communicate with are on here , apart from my old dears but talking with them regarding the Blondin scale is out the question ??
@ Blondin or Brimz,
I have just come across a few boxes of 25mcg Durogesic DTrans Patches containing 4.2 mg of Fentanyl, never taken this before so any advice would be greatly appreciated lads.

 

[ructions]

What you said t'other day really touched me .

You are a true Diamond n i hope to meet you at some point this year.

It's crazy that the folk who been posting on all 13volumes n 6 of the other thread from the start we are all still here.

Like you said i feel n worry about you guys as much as folk that i know or have met on the H scene.

In some ways i feel more for you guys cos in my 16/18 years i4get of using most of the folk i have got down with was just for the drugs .
Not all obviously but tis hard to find folk that really care about anyone but themselves in the gear game

Aw thanks Brimz Yep i'd really love to meet up with all of yous too!!! I don't know what i would have done without all of yous on this thread through out the drought! I may have lost heroin, but i sure have gained some amazing friends!!!

I'd never used any forum before Bluelight! I post on the odd other forum now, but i haven't built any relationships with people on those sites the way i have on Bluelight! I chat away to my Boyfriend about all of yous as if i see yous every day! Its crazy that other then a few of the Irish crew that i know most of us have never met! It would be some session if we did all meet up!!! Yee-haaa!!!

Strugout, that is so funny what your Mrs said!!! & you know what? She could be really onto something there!!

Great to hear so many good reports of good gear in the UK! Its sounds as if the good stuff is really spreading around! Hopefully it will spread over here to Ireland soooooon!!! Its got to get to Dublin at some stage, doesn't it?!

@Endless... I had the same problem, last time i scored local i also got a tiny pip of a bag!!! It was a disgrace the size of it! I rang back & got no answer, so then i texted saying that i thought there must be some mistake coz my bag was half the size that i was supposed to be, but i got no reply! I honestly thought he had got my bag mixed up with someone else's, someone who wanted a €50 bag or something! !! It really was half the size!!! So i didn't go back to him!

Its a load of bollox that they think they can cut the size back by that much without saying anything to us first! If he'd said he was paying more then i would have told him to give me the same amount & i would pay extra, we did that in the past, but to say nothing & then ignore me is not on!

Its a pain the way he leaves us waiting & waiting for ages, the only reason i used to put up with it is coz his deals were a decent size, i haven't gone back to him since, since that night i've been scoring over on the South side, its the very same gear but the deals are small, but not as small as your mans have gone! If he had just told me i would have thrown him an extra few quid!!!

 

[louie the 16th]

The Gods were definately on my side today, i have recently been relocated to a new place of work , which in-turn brings a lot of stress so i have fell back into my old habbits of booting in the toilets @ work ( sorry Kkatt ) against your advice i know !
Anyway's after finishing my boot i placed all my tools in my little magic box ( or so i thought ! ) I then proceeded to carry on about the place , speaking to my unit manager & vaerious other new aquaintancies , about 07.55am i went for a fag break so took the roll up from behind my ear & went to light it only to find to my absolute horror it was indeed my TOOTER !!!!! Which i might add was coverered in brown sticky residue !

I must stop as it's obvious i'm becoming careless.

 

[ructions]

It seem's half my life is virtual @ present ! Score alone , smoke alone , fuck i even work alone most times ( although i am surrounded by the walking deaed ) The only folks i communicate with are on here , apart from my old dears but talking with them regarding the Blondin scale is out the question ??
)

Louie you have just described my life! Well i don't use alone all that much, but i work alone & i spend a lot of time alone coz i work when my bf is off & he works when i'm off, lately we are like passing ships in the night!

I have lost touch with all my non gear using mates, i don't consider many of my mates that use as real mates! Thats why i cherish my Bluelight Pals so much! Before i met all yous i had no one to talk about heroin, all the weird little ways that we all have! Its good to know that we all have the same funny little ways!!!

 

[ructions]

about 07.55am i went for a fag break so took the roll up from behind my ear & went to light it only to find to my absolute horror it was indeed my TOOTER !!!!! Which i might add was coverered in brown sticky residue !

Jaysus Louie that is a nightmare! I'd say your heart sank when you realized you had a tooter behind your ear!!! Ah Bollox!!! Look hopefully no one saw it! You most likely would have noticed people looking in the direction of your ear if they had seen it! Hopefully you'll get away with it!

Its so easily done as well! Many a time i've put a tooter in my mouth & gone to light it thinking it was a cigarette! Its a sure sign that your getting good gear! Its a thing i used to do when i was really stoned, i wouldn't know my arse from my elbow! 8( Oh how i miss that feeling! Its been that long that i can't even remember what its like to be stoned?!

Try not to worry mate, hopefully no one saw it! Onwards & upwards!!! XXX

 

[louie the 16th]

Cheers Ructions bab,
I'm sure no-one saw it , they'd have said something for certain ! Especially with my use becoming so public.
Change of Topic:
My problem is whenever i'm smoking real good gear i hardly ever get into bed, it's like a constant drifting in & out of Nod-land ! I mean it's almost 3 o' clock & I'm determined to finish this plate off...lol.. It's like a constant battle which i never like to lose !
If the gear is just average then i can have my boot get into bed & wake up @ 4.30 & go to work. Yet as this gear is real nice i can't bring myself to put it down, ( only when i accidently screw it up & squash my tooter does it leave my hands )

Am i alone in this ? or are there other's out there ?