Heroin Social: Version 6 (aka. Toot it up while you can)

[brimz]

it seems my blondin strength indicator has become quite popular even the great man himself is using it and brimz dont be silly of course blondin can use it .
he is blondin after all

oh i didn't realise it was you that started it in that case yeah it don't sound as daft n as you said he is the man they call Blondin

 

[brimz]

How annoying is it when you have to go to plan B only to have plan A call you while you're waiting?!

I heard that it's virtually impossible to OD on benzo's anyway.

it is but they are often found in the blood of folk that have gone over n died , because when combined with other substances opiates being the most common they can be really dangerous .

 

[louie the 16th]

@ Blondin, cheers for the info son. He ain't the only 1 counting down the days, 4 & brek & i should be smoking somethin approachin 9 Blondins !! If i ain't looking back through " Brown " tinted spectacles .

 

[brimz]

yeah monday is same day for me funny that . giro day n all
I always put my tings in me gob providing they are properly wrapped up i swallowed a 8th of b n a 16th of w once .

We were parked up having a pip[e cos we were being unpatient idioits n the police pulled up alongside us lucky my mate opened his door thus jamming the copper inside his car n the other one had to run alll the way around n giving me enough seconds to swallow that stuff i did have water handy no way would i have been able to get it down otherwise .

They saw me do it n said they were gonnna take me to the Hospital unless i admitted it , i did n said it was a a £20 bag they were pissed off but went with it , despite finding aload of pins , n all that stuff and methadone but that was our own .

When we got far enough away i used the lovely combo of tizer n milk to help me barf n it came up no problem .

Close as fuk mind , if my mate hadn't blocked off the copper i rekon we woulda been fuked.

 

[ructions]

Hi all!!! Thanks again for all the kind words! Yous really are a great bunch of people! Chatting with all of yous on Bluelight is at least one really good thing that came out of this dreaded heroin drought!!! Its great to talk with people who genuinely understand!!!

I got 20 valium yesterday, i hadn't used valium in years, when my Dad was alive he used to give me about 30 a month for free, he was prescribed them but he rarely used them so thats how i ended up with them, but he died 15 years ago so i haven't taken them much since then.

Anyway I took my first 2 yellow valium at 3:30pm yesterday & smoked my first tray of gear! I had a lovely big chill out day yesterday & by 12 o' clock midnight i had smoked 4 trays of gear & taken 8 yellow valium. The gear as usual was weak. Although I felt fairly mellow all day, but mostly tired. I didn't get as much as a buzz as i had hoped for. Methadone had been out of my system by over 36 hours when i first started my little session yesterday, so that wasn't blocking it. Surly i should have got a bit more of a buzz? Or am i expecting too much? What do yous think???

I finished my 4th tray of gear at around 12 midnight & i had taken my 7th & 8th valium just as i started that last tray, the next thing i knew it was 10am this morning & i was still sitting up right on the couch in the sitting room, i never made it to bed which is very unusual for me coz i love my bed!

So what do people think? Is there a way of getting a nice buzz from valium with out just falling asleep? Should i have taken them all together instead spacing the out through out the whole day? I took 8 yellows, is that the same as 4 blues? The tablets are yellow with a line through one side & 'D5' printed on the other side, does that sound right?

I woke up with such a creek in my neck this morning! I wish i'd gotten a bit more trolleyed yesterday!!! I'm still really tired & spongy to-day, i keep making stupid typing mistakes! Its taken me over half a hour to write this bloody post! But i have been exhausted all week, the night before last i only got two hours sleep, the night before that i didn't get a single wink of sleep! I haven't been sleeping well due to not smoking gear regularly & i've a lot of problems on my mind with work ect! So i was glad of the good sleep last night!

So what kind of dose would people advise me to take of yellow valium when i don't have a tolerance! Than~you!!!!

 

[brimz]

ructs are they off a script or are they black market valium?

If they are real well from the chemist then 20/30mgs with no tolerance is a nice dose you can always add but not take away is the golden rule if they are from a internet source then tis impossible to tell with out trying as strength varies wildly even if they are from the same batch one tab could be stronger than the next.

 

[endlessnameless]

Hi all!!! Thanks again for all the kind words! Yous really are a great bunch of people! Chatting with all of yous on Bluelight is at least one really good thing that came out of this dreaded heroin drought!!! Its great to talk with people who genuinely understand!!!

I got 20 valium yesterday, i hadn't used valium in years, when my Dad was alive he used to give me about 30 a month for free, he was prescribed them but he rarely used them so thats how i ended up with them, but he died 15 years ago so i haven't taken them much since then.

Anyway I took my first 2 yellow valium at 3:30pm yesterday & smoked my first tray of gear! I had a lovely big chill out day yesterday & by 12 o' clock midnight i had smoked 4 trays of gear & taken 8 yellow valium. The gear as usual was weak. Although I felt fairly mellow all day, but mostly tired. I didn't get as much as a buzz as i had hoped for. Methadone had been out of my system by over 36 hours when i first started my little session yesterday, so that wasn't blocking it. Surly i should have got a bit more of a buzz? Or am i expecting too much? What do yous think???

I finished my 4th tray of gear at around 12 midnight & i had taken my 7th & 8th valium just as i started that last tray, the next thing i knew it was 10am this morning & i was still sitting up right on the couch in the sitting room, i never made it to bed which is very unusual for me coz i love my bed!

So what do people think? Is there a way of getting a nice buzz from valium with out just falling asleep? Should i have taken them all together instead spacing the out through out the whole day? I took 8 yellows, is that the same as 4 blues? The tablets are yellow with a line through one side & 'D5' printed on the other side, does that sound right?

I woke up with such a creek in my neck this morning! I wish i'd gotten a bit more trolleyed yesterday!!! I'm still really tired & spongy to-day, i keep making stupid typing mistakes! Its taken me over half a hour to write this bloody post! But i have been exhausted all week, the night before last i only got two hours sleep, the night before that i didn't get a single wink of sleep! I haven't been sleeping well due to not smoking gear regularly & i've a lot of problems on my mind with work ect! So i was glad of the good sleep last night!

So what kind of dose would people advise me to take of yellow valium when i don't have a tolerance! Than~you!!!!

Hey miss,

I find it crazy that you didnt get much of a buzz off four trays of gear and 8 valium...I mean, 8 D5s alone wont really get most people anywhere in terms of a buzz as its only 40mgs at best, but if 4 Q's of yer mans stuff is not giving you a buzz somethings not right ructions - that methadone must be still at fairly high levels in your system dear. You had these as a combination too and didnt even sleep.

Like I was saying last night, I bought two different types of gear - one Q from a chap who's product was laced with mannitol (ran for about an hour of constant smoking yet gave me the buzz of four lines of the usual product), so while I was waiting to score from our usual chap I had two glasses of wine and when I had my first line from the proper stuff I noticed a vast difference instantly, so its not the gear.

If you wanted to get a true buzz from the gear I'm afraid you'd probably want to be off the methadone for a week or two - more towards two considering your metabolism is so slow.

Pitty theres not much of a market for painpills like oxycodone etc in Ireland...I'd rather take them than the gear we're getting, I'd be rightly fucked off the likes of them now I'd say.

 

[brimz]

more towards two considering your metabolism is so slow

don't be daft she would be clucking if she did that .

 

[PapaverSom]

Hey miss,

I find it crazy that you didnt get much of a buzz off four trays of gear and 8 valium...I mean, 8 D5s alone wont really get most people anywhere in terms of a buzz as its only 40mgs at best, but if 4 Q's of yer mans stuff is not giving you a buzz somethings not right ructions - that methadone must be still at fairly high levels in your system dear. You had these as a combination too and didnt even sleep.

Like I was saying last night, I bought two different types of gear - one Q from a chap who's product was laced with mannitol (ran for about an hour of constant smoking yet gave me the buzz of four lines of the usual product), so while I was waiting to score from our usual chap I had two glasses of wine and when I had my first line from the proper stuff I noticed a vast difference instantly, so its not the gear.

If you wanted to get a true buzz from the gear I'm afraid you'd probably want to be off the methadone for a week or two - more towards two considering your metabolism is so slow.

Pitty theres not much of a market for painpills like oxycodone etc in Ireland...I'd rather take them than the gear we're getting, I'd be rightly fucked off the likes of them now I'd say.

Ructs is only on 60mg green if memory serves me correctly, and she waited 36 hours before smoking the gear...Im sorry mate but IT IS THE GEAR!! That gear your getting must be absolute shite to not get a buzz, especially after taking valium which she never normally takes. Ructions knows this anyway, as she used to use on top of her meth before the drought, and never had any complaints, so obviously somethings changed and it aint her tolerance.

 

[trip2themoon]

I was stopped by the police a few years back
they had seen me score
i saw them coming and as they pulled up next to me,I leant down to speak into their window and just dropped the bag in my hand under their car
they made me empty my pockets-found nothing so went on their way
once they had turned the corner I quickly walked back down and picked up the bag
so yeah-i agree your hand is a good place to have it if you have just picked up
once i get to a private place it can be stashed somewhere more secure,providing it is properly wrapped of course

A few months back I scored 50ml from a mate and paid his brother £10 upfront for his 90ml bottle. The guy with the gear was round at my other mates house so me and the mate I got the 50ml's brother were heading to where the gear guy was so on me I had a 50ml bottle with the label ripped off and a tenner bag in my back pocket. On the way round we got a pull and the polis mentioned a house breaking and someone fitting K's description but we said we'd just came from K's parents house round the corner. I had managed to drop the TB anticipating a search but there was no way I could get rid of the 50ml bottle. So after consenting to a search and denying I had anything on me I shouldn't have the cop searching me tapped my front trouser pocket with his hand and said "what's that?" I said "it's my medication" cops asks "what is it" and I say "It's 50ml of methadone". On the outside I was cool and calm (acting like why are you even bothering me) but inside I was shitting myself, i had work that night and how could I explain to my work I missed a shift coz I was in the police station for possession of an illegal drug, but all he done was took it out of my pocket, gave it a glance and put it back. I couldn't believe it when we were told to be on our way. As soon as they were out of site I ran back to where I dropped my TB and found it easily enough. That was the closest I've ever been to being caught with anything class A, I've had a £25 fine for a wee bit of hash but i really was shitting myself when the found the meth'. I think not panicking helped a lot.

 

[PapaverSom]

In my experience the OB are lookin for an easy life, seems to me its the cocky ones who have been busted many times before and dont give a fuck about getting into trouble and know there rights etc, that they tend to avoid, for the sake of a couple of bags. However, if they stop n search someone who's para and inexperienced wiv the law, they know they can nick em & give em the whole "this could destroy your entire life unless you play ball" shit, & they'll confess to everything they've done, grass up their dealer in the process and plead guilty without requesting a solicitor, cos they believe if they suck up to the police and do wot they ask they might just avoid getting into trouble. Less said to coppers the better, they generally cant be fucked to investigate and spend time and effort on these minor cases, & the last thing they want is someone in custody whos demanding to see a solicitor, demanding a drink every 5 minutes, saying no comment or 'fuck ur mother' to every question asked, and generally making a nuisance of themselves, all for the sake of busting them wiv posession of a miniscule amount of gear.

So in summary, next time u get stopped, headbutt the copper, tell him his mother is a whore and demand to see a duty solicitor and a cup of tea, and you'll be fine

 

[kkattastic]

the only thing you should ever say to the police is "NO COMMENT"

 

[trip2themoon]

Hi all!!! Thanks again for all the kind words! Yous really are a great bunch of people! Chatting with all of yous on Bluelight is at least one really good thing that came out of this dreaded heroin drought!!! Its great to talk with people who genuinely understand!!!

I got 20 valium yesterday, i hadn't used valium in years, when my Dad was alive he used to give me about 30 a month for free, he was prescribed them but he rarely used them so thats how i ended up with them, but he died 15 years ago so i haven't taken them much since then.

Anyway I took my first 2 yellow valium at 3:30pm yesterday & smoked my first tray of gear! I had a lovely big chill out day yesterday & by 12 o' clock midnight i had smoked 4 trays of gear & taken 8 yellow valium. The gear as usual was weak. Although I felt fairly mellow all day, but mostly tired. I didn't get as much as a buzz as i had hoped for. Methadone had been out of my system by over 36 hours when i first started my little session yesterday, so that wasn't blocking it. Surly i should have got a bit more of a buzz? Or am i expecting too much? What do yous think???

I finished my 4th tray of gear at around 12 midnight & i had taken my 7th & 8th valium just as i started that last tray, the next thing i knew it was 10am this morning & i was still sitting up right on the couch in the sitting room, i never made it to bed which is very unusual for me coz i love my bed!

So what do people think? Is there a way of getting a nice buzz from valium with out just falling asleep? Should i have taken them all together instead spacing the out through out the whole day? I took 8 yellows, is that the same as 4 blues? The tablets are yellow with a line through one side & 'D5' printed on the other side, does that sound right?

I woke up with such a creek in my neck this morning! I wish i'd gotten a bit more trolleyed yesterday!!! I'm still really tired & spongy to-day, i keep making stupid typing mistakes! Its taken me over half a hour to write this bloody post! But i have been exhausted all week, the night before last i only got two hours sleep, the night before that i didn't get a single wink of sleep! I haven't been sleeping well due to not smoking gear regularly & i've a lot of problems on my mind with work ect! So i was glad of the good sleep last night!

So what kind of dose would people advise me to take of yellow valium when i don't have a tolerance! Than~you!!!!

Personally I'm not a big valium fan but if I was having a burn with the yellows I would have taken all 8 together. Yellows are 5mg and blues are 10 but I've been told that you'd still get a better buzz from taking 8 yellows instead of 4 blues. My Dad gets Clonazepam, his script is 1 at night but he gets a box of 60 once a month so he always has plenty to spare. A few weeks back I was visiting my folks and I nabbed 2 sheets of 10 (he gets the 0.5mg ones) that were dated from back in September. He can't sleep without them so I'd never take any from his currant script. Last week when I got sacked from my job I had a wee blow out as there's some nice gear going about and I get my meth' away once a week. I popped 8 clones kicked off my first of 3 score bags and with the clones the kit lasted me 2 days. I'd wake up to find a blob on the foil so have another few lines and another roll up and then gouch out again. I was quite happy to have been wrecked like that for 2 days. If you had decent kit and with your zero valium tolerance you would have been nutted. I've no idea what's going on over there honey but I really hope for you that something good hits your streets soon. Lately I've been getting 7 to 8 Blondins out of 10 gear which is pretty good considering there was a 3 year patch there where there was crazy amounts of pure bash all over the place.

 

[endlessnameless]

don't be daft she would be clucking if she did that .

I never said it was practical mate. With the average metabolism, I suppose you could do a week's cluck and then start on the gear - but why would you want to when you're on MMT.

Ructs is only on 60mg green if memory serves me correctly, and she waited 36 hours before smoking the gear...Im sorry mate but IT IS THE GEAR!! That gear your getting must be absolute shite to not get a buzz, especially after taking valium which she never normally takes. Ructions knows this anyway, as she used to use on top of her meth before the drought, and never had any complaints, so obviously somethings changed and it aint her tolerance.

There is a buzz, but the gear is only about 50% as strong as it was before the drought/decline. I'd hardly be spending my wages on it every week if there wasnt, but to get a gouch you'd want to be smoking a bag and a half to two bags. If you're not getting a gouch after four bags and you're on methadone while everyone else who isnt on methadone buys two bags at a time because that's what you need to get a gouch from this stuff...then what else could it be? I'm genuinely interested as to what might be causing this.

Ructions, next time you score see if you can handle 2/3 glasses of wine before your smoke and then tell me if you get a nod. Thats the only way I can get a gouch off one bag of this stuff. If I have 3/4 glasses of wine, then start smoking a bag I will literally begin to nod while smoking and its guaranteed every time. Its just an idea for you because I hate to see you spending so much money on this stuff when you're not even getting to sleep after it - but if you do try the alcohol approach dont take any valium.

 

[PapaverSom]

I never said it was practical mate. With the average metabolism, I suppose you could do a week's cluck and then start on the gear - but why would you want to when you're on MMT.



There is a buzz, but the gear is only about 50% as strong as it was before the drought/decline. I'd hardly be spending my wages on it every week if there wasnt, but to get a gouch you'd want to be smoking a bag and a half to two bags. If you're not getting a gouch after four bags and you're on methadone while everyone else who isnt on methadone buys two bags at a time because that's what you need to get a gouch from this stuff...then what else could it be? I'm genuinely interested as to what might be causing this.

Ructions, next time you score see if you can handle 2/3 glasses of wine before your smoke and then tell me if you get a nod. Thats the only way I can get a gouch off one bag of this stuff. If I have 3/4 glasses of wine, then start smoking a bag I will literally begin to nod while smoking and its guaranteed every time. Its just an idea for you because I hate to see you spending so much money on this stuff when you're not even getting to sleep after it - but if you do try the alcohol approach dont take any valium.

Yeah yeah granted methadone is gonna increase ur opiate tolerance and block to a certain extent, but all I can draw on is personal experience, and what the good lady has said herself (many times). You say the gear is half as strong as it was before the drought, she's saying she used to gouch off a pont 2 on top of her 60mg methadone, yet now she cant get a decent nod off of 4 trays (amount unknown but assuming more than a point 4) and 4 blues (8 yells). It doesnt add up. My take on it, is that the gear ur getting now is very dilute. If what u were getting before the drought was averaging say 25%, then I doubt what ur getting now is 12.5% purity. Another thing is, strong gear will make me nod. But weak gear wont, no matter how much of the shite I smoke. I swear some people have got so used to bash, or maybe that they never even had decent gear in their lives, that they are happy wiv bash. These threads didnt exist before the drought, of people saying "gear is shit and I cant get a gouch off of it" did they? No one had any complaints. I know gear aint what it was in the 80s or 90s etc, but still, I never had many reasons to complain, before 'the big drought'. The odd batch that wasnt great (which peeps now would describe as 'fire'!), but overall, it did wot it said on the outside of the baggie. So Ructions aint going mad, and she hasnt just forgotten what gear used to do to her...the fact is the gear you in Ireland, and many in UK are still getting is shite compared to what it was a few years ago. Im in no way putting u down, Ive scored my fair share of shite to over the last year. sumtimes it literally is a fuckin lottery.

Anyway jesus fuckin christ Im bangin on u can tell Im on my 7th x 500ml can of San Mig (Tesco 2 x 4 500ml san mig cans £eight), and Ive necked an extra 60mg meth on top of my 80, and I cant stop thinkin of scoring something nice on monday, so I say its time for me to shut up innit! 8)

 

[mckf13]

anyone know anything about budapest? i'm going next week and wondered what my chances of scoring are, i know its on the trading route but theres always trouble with language barriers and finding someone trustworthy, probably unlikely

 

[blondin]

re methadone/heroin - my experience, when i was on higher doses +70, i would wait 24h before a hit to get stoned any motre than that then your receptyors are flooded and heroin wont have any effect. 40-50mls and a wait of 12 h willstill get u high - you will prob have to take a bit more though

 

[endlessnameless]

Aw fuck, me too. Been trying to pass time as quickly as possible today and then I just have Sunday to get through then its payday at long last. Its going to be such a beautiful day. I was going to try sleep most of tomorrow off, but if I can sleep tonight I'll be lucky. I'll feel better about doing something productive to pass tomorrow by, fuck sleeping through life.

 

[ructions]

I think i was expecting more of a heroin buzz off the valium, but if that was the case no one would buy heroin i guess! I slept most of to-day as well! So the valium did knock me out!

As for the gear its just pure crap! It looks good but its crap! Its certainly not only 50% weaker then the gear i was getting before the drought, its about 75% weaker, i suppose it all depends on what quality of heroin people were getting before the drought! I was always fussy when it came to gear, there were only 2 people in Dublin that i would score off before the drought. One of them still won't sell gear since the drought started coz she refuses to sell crap, the other guy gave in after 6 months & started selling crap!

It would be normal for me to smoke between 4 to 6 trays a day if i'm not in work, before the drought i'd be wasted on this amount! I wouldn't need valium or wine or anything to help me get a buzz, the heroin its self did the job nicely! But with the gear around now i can smoke 4 to 6 trays & barely get any stone at all, its nothing to do with methadone, i have been on methadone for 6 or 7 years so i know exactly how methadone effects my heroin. Its the gear its self, its rubbish! I'd give anything to get a bit of the gear i was getting 2 years ago!!!

 

[Acidtek]

^^ mate if I could sleep through the next few days I'd be more than happy! Good luck mate and enjoy your payday! Stay safe though mate

Edit: this post was aimed at endlessnameless

Sorry you still can't get good ructions, hope things pick up for you soon mate!