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@ runctions and anyone else interested- it takes a while to get to the point with the above song like me.8) Starts off with guitar riffs for a while but once it does- oh mama- few songs capture and describe the ascendancy of the rule by invisible hand, deception of the American people, rule of the corporations that have subverted our sacred liberties and public trust, media braiwashing, ect... jello is very poetic in decribing it.

Its a long but cool and like I said very relevant song.
 
Jspun, Blondin and Monsta; thanx for ur replies, appreciated, and that makes sense to me. However it aint a problem really, I started meth on 90 mls daily and reduced to 80ml a couple years ago. It was more me being curious about the info / misinfo surround meth. I have though about upping my dose but dont want to, cos I do still use, and enjoy it. As Blondin knows I do get an effect on top of the 80ml (well, off proper gear anyway), but anything more and I do think Id be wasting me money. Reckon Id have to hit about 120 to stop the craving, and I aint doing that...I sweat/fart enough as it is! I work outdoors, and when it was snowing and minus 10 a few months ago, I was sweating my nuts off at work then getting FREEEZING it was horrible. My boss prob thinks im a freak! Also, if the constipation got much worse I think it'd start backing up and eventually Id have to throw up to take a dump! Lol soz 4 that image ladies! So Ill plod on I suppose. I ned the green to work and be able to lead a normal life. I just wish I had more control over it, ie not supervised consumption, so that I could split my dose, or not take it all whatever. Why cant they trust people with their own fuckin meds? If I wanted to OD on green Id have done it by now. Or maybe its the selling of theyre concerned about? Another long post, shit! Jspun u got a rival! peace folks,
Oh u guys are deadheads I bet u like tge doors too right? ManI fuckin LOVE the doors, I got that new dvd coming, When Youre Strange, was released last year. An avid doors fan I am. And of course the mighty Lou Reed. What has happened to music eh folks?

Oh randomly, I fuckin hate my name! Lol I signed up in a rush during the drought and the ones I wanted were gon so I figured I may be able to change it later but no. Wish it was PapaSom, or for a witty play on words (for a gear head anyway!), PopaSam...anyway papaversom sucks
 
Just an observation, but gear 'eds, or at least the ones I (semi) know thru these bl forums, are sound as fuck! nice peeps, getting along wiv each other well for the most part, helping each other if sum1 post saying theyre down, helping people by suggesting detox methods / techniques / info / help, helping by providing harm reduction methods, and also, at least I think, people are being really honest here. And well-balanced aswell I reckon. A far far cry from the stereotypical, purse pinching, house robbing, emotionless, lazy, fiending raving loony smack heads that exist in the press or the recess of joe publics head. I mean, is there similar forums for crack heads on BL, where they all chat and get along nicely? I think not (may b wrong?)! not that I got anything against stone heads...after all, how could I, Im a dirty smack head, junkie, the lowest of the low, theres no one else to look down on down ere in the gutter!!
 
@ runctions I thoughrouly enjoyed your crass song. Where has the politics gone in music?

I've got a song for you DOA with Jello Biafra "Full Metal Jackoff" its long- 2 parts, but stiring and relevant.

Full Metal Jackoff Part I

Full Metal Jackoff Part II

Jello Biafra was the front man of a very political Bay Area band called the dead Kennedy's- heard him speak in college- he predicted we would invade the middle East in fall 89' or winter of 90' when i heard him speak- months before Sadam invaded Kuwait.

DOA is I believe a band from Toronto that was very proliffic in the 80s- I saw them play once- he says that Reagan was the best thing for punk rock- He provided alot of inspiration, as I'm sure Thatcher did for English Punk.

Yeah Jspun, i know & love the Dead Kennedys!!!! I have loved PUNK all my life, & yes CRASS are to England what D.K. are to America!!! I love your link, i hadn't listened to that song in ages, its such a powerful song!!! Jello Biafra is such an amazing man, he is so intelligent!!! I never got to see D.K. live but i did go to see Jello Biafra's spoken word, it was a good few years ago but he was amazing!!! He has so much to say & his ideas are brilliant!!! He is one of the most remarkable men that i know of, he is utterly amazing!!!! Didn't he run for mayor a few years ago? I know that he was just taking the piss, but if only there were people like him in power then the world would be a much MUCH better place!!!!

If you like CRASS you might be glad to know that the lead singer Steve Ignorant is going to do a small tour in America in a few weeks, he will be playing all CRASS songs. He played here in Dublin last November, it was the best gig that i was ever at in my whole life!!!!! So watch out for him!!! Where in the states are you from? Coz i could find out if they are playing near you! A band from Dublin called PARANOID VISIONS are playing with him, they are really good too!!!

Once again Jspun may i say that i really enjoy all you posts!! You really put so much time & effort into everything you say!! It makes great reading!!! Its great to know now that we have PUNK in common too!!!!!! (A) :D
 
Runctions
If you like CRASS you might be glad to know that the lead singer Steve Ignorant is going to do a small tour in America in a few weeks, he will be playing all CRASS songs. He played here in Dublin last November, it was the best gig that i was ever at in my whole life!!!!! So watch out for him!!! Where in the states are you from? Coz i could find out if they are playing near you! A band from Dublin called PARANOID VISIONS are playing with him, they are really good too!!!

Once again Jspun may i say that i really enjoy all you posts!! You really put so much time & effort into everything you say!! It makes great reading!!! Its great to know now that we have PUNK in common too!!!!!! (A)

I do like punk- my musical tastes are very eclectic. In 1985 I went to a show in San Jose where Dr. Know frm CA - a band that was cool on there debut album "plug in jesus". Fist fun is a good song. But anyway Adrenalin OD from DC played too. GBH was supposed to headline, speaking of the UK but never showed. Anyway, what was pivitol about this show and disturbing was that the skins were going from what had been, atleast in the US a patritoc nationalist punk subculture to the sinister Nazi movement which they have been associated with to this day with Oi, screwdriver type punk. They were beating the shit out of people trying to dance in the pit and goose steping and other such nonesense.:( They were pests in the hardcore Bay Area scene in the 80s. I got to see and meet El Duce of the Mentors in the 90s. He was so drunk he fell into his drum kit and couldn't play anymore. Saw Motorhead... what was realy cool was I got to see Op Ivy members of which formed rancid a few years latter. They are one of my favorite bands- there from the East Bay.

I was into death metal- that was my first love in the 80s and then my tastes started becoming more ecletic. I saw Metallica play in a Rock festival when they were still playing clubs in the Bay Area. 1983-1987 or 88' death metal was still kinda avante grade. This was the age of glam- our antithesis were most of the bands were from LA. The Bay Area was solid Death Metal with bands like exodus, death angel, slayer from socal. The very best metal was comming out of Europe back then. This was one of the high points during the cold war and West Berlin was a kinda epicenter. Then you had Celtic frost from zurich, destruction and Sodom from West germany, Merciful Fate from Denmark, Bathory, Kreator, Venom from the UK. The 80s were a great time for punk and metal. The 80s were a great time for music: punk, metal, electronica, rap, Iron Maiden, Judus Priest, everything but glam rock (though semi glamish guns and roses had some good stuff- Mr. Brownstone.

I also like Janes Addiction- there early music, three days, ect... goes with the opiate high.

And I Loved the Grateful Dead. I was rare, as an American in prefering electronica to hip hop ( but I like old school hardcore rap). I love the doors too and pink floyd. Led Zeplin- I listened to rain song the day I smoked real opium for the first time and that song brings me back to that dreamy day- it was real opium and not tar (which people would try to pass off as opium)- i know by the taste and it looked like brown sap/ rock candy- years before i had a habit.

As for electronica I like the 80s old school minimalist techno- derrick may, kevin saunderson, juan atkins, and some of the early chicago stuff in the 80s- was more into acid house and post or the soulful body and soul mixes of francois kavorkian- not much political message per say.

As commercialized as he is, I heard your Paul oakenfold spin at E street, a mid size club in San Diego in 98. He had skills- I had 5 months clean around nov 17, 98'- or their abouts- we were their fortuitously for my wifes birthday- that boy had skills- and was probably selling out arenas in Europe. Jeno and his Wicked crew that brought rave culture to the Bay area was good too. Ritchie Hawtins.

Got to see Sublime, another favorite in 93-94' when I had a habit before Bradley died of a heroin OD- they did a good job of mixing geners as did Funk Junkies who predated them and were kinda lost in history. Their first album was good- they went downhill after that.

But the dead scene- that was trully something magical- something beyond description. Blackstar Orchestra and Phish are poor substitutes- their music (especially I know you ridder, scarlet begonia, and others are opiate friendly.)

But the dead shows were something else- Janes Addiction tried to encourage an arts scene the tour before last that was kinda like bringing burning man into the show.

Regae- The sounds of Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, EEk a Mouse, Jimmy Cliff, Burning Spear.


By the way its funny how many great artists got their inspiration from drugs- opiates in particlular (motzart among them).

I'll be looking out for Steve Ignorant, let me know if you hear info runctions- that would be a great show and haven't been to a show in ages- since Janes Addiction last year. I'm turning into a boaring old fart.:(

Dropkick Murphys are a tight Punk band- of Irish Americans from the Boston area. I always enjoy your posts too, runctions their honest and full of passion and insight. I know Jello biafra ran for office- your right I think it was for the mayor of San Francisco.
 
wow jspun, your just like me there, god, youd never know what id be listnin to next, yeah the drop kick murphys are good, lad i work with, wish hed told me they were playin, he told me the day after.

music music music music music, tunes tunes tunes tunes tunes tunes
 
I been hunting all over the web
it sees you can get home testing kits quite easily that test your urine/saliva for various drugs
you can also get home testing kits to test what is actually in the E you just brought or the speed or even coke you have.
But i cannot find anywhere,a kit that would enable me to test the purity of the H I a buying,or even what else may be in it.
these kits are pretty sensitive-they can easily differentiate between oxycodone and oxycontin so why do i have no option to test my H
Is this just another thing where junkies get overlooked(as the scum of the drug taking world-even tho i honestly believe crack heads are the worst off)or is the price factor an issue for home kits?
cos i am certain that someone who is buying several Ks of H would be quite happy to lay out for a test to know what he is getting
I seen it on the TV(the wire to be exact)but you obviously can't believe everything you see on the tv
 
Runctions

I do like punk- my musical tastes are very eclectic. In 1985 I went to a show in San Jose where Dr. Know frm CA - a band that was cool on there debut album "plug in jesus". Fist fun is a good song. But anyway Adrenalin OD from DC played too. GBH was supposed to headline, speaking of the UK but never showed. Anyway, what was pivitol about this show and disturbing was that the skins were going from what had been, atleast in the US a patritoc nationalist punk subculture to the sinister Nazi movement which they have been associated with to this day with Oi, screwdriver type punk. They were beating the shit out of people trying to dance in the pit and goose steping and other such nonesense.:( They were pests in the hardcore Bay Area scene in the 80s. I got to see and meet El Duce of the Mentors in the 90s. He was so drunk he fell into his drum kit and couldn't play anymore. Saw Motorhead... what was realy cool was I got to see Op Ivy members of which formed rancid a few years latter. They are one of my favorite bands- there from the East Bay.

I was into death metal- that was my first love in the 80s and then my tastes started becoming more ecletic. I saw Metallica play in a Rock festival when they were still playing clubs in the Bay Area. 1983-1987 or 88' death metal was still kinda avante grade. This was the age of glam- our antithesis were most of the bands were from LA. The Bay Area was solid Death Metal with bands like exodus, death angel, slayer from socal. The very best metal was comming out of Europe back then. This was one of the high points during the cold war and West Berlin was a kinda epicenter. Then you had Celtic frost from zurich, destruction and Sodom from West germany, Merciful Fate from Denmark, Bathory, Kreator, Venom from the UK. The 80s were a great time for punk and metal. The 80s were a great time for music: punk, metal, electronica, rap, Iron Maiden, Judus Priest, everything but glam rock (though semi glamish guns and roses had some good stuff- Mr. Brownstone.

I also like Janes Addiction- there early music, three days, ect... goes with the opiate high.

And I Loved the Grateful Dead. I was rare, as an American in prefering electronica to hip hop ( but I like old school hardcore rap). I love the doors too and pink floyd. Led Zeplin- I listened to rain song the day I smoked real opium for the first time and that song brings me back to that dreamy day- it was real opium and not tar (which people would try to pass off as opium)- i know by the taste and it looked like brown sap/ rock candy- years before i had a habit.

As for electronica I like the 80s old school minimalist techno- derrick may, kevin saunderson, juan atkins, and some of the early chicago stuff in the 80s- was more into acid house and post or the soulful body and soul mixes of francois kavorkian- not much political message per say.

As commercialized as he is, I heard your Paul oakenfold spin at E street, a mid size club in San Diego in 98. He had skills- I had 5 months clean around nov 17, 98'- or their abouts- we were their fortuitously for my wifes birthday- that boy had skills- and was probably selling out arenas in Europe. Jeno and his Wicked crew that brought rave culture to the Bay area was good too. Ritchie Hawtins.

Got to see Sublime, another favorite in 93-94' when I had a habit before Bradley died of a heroin OD- they did a good job of mixing geners as did Funk Junkies who predated them and were kinda lost in history. Their first album was good- they went downhill after that.

But the dead scene- that was trully something magical- something beyond description. Blackstar Orchestra and Phish are poor substitutes- their music (especially I know you ridder, scarlet begonia, and others are opiate friendly.)

But the dead shows were something else- Janes Addiction tried to encourage an arts scene the tour before last that was kinda like bringing burning man into the show.

Regae- The sounds of Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, EEk a Mouse, Jimmy Cliff, Burning Spear.


By the way its funny how many great artists got their inspiration from drugs- opiates in particlular (motzart among them).

I'll be looking out for Steve Ignorant, let me know if you hear info runctions- that would be a great show and haven't been to a show in ages- since Janes Addiction last year. I'm turning into a boaring old fart.:(

Dropkick Murphys are a tight Punk band- of Irish Americans from the Boston area. I always enjoy your posts too, runctions their honest and full of passion and insight. I know Jello biafra ran for office- your right I think it was for the mayor of San Francisco.

hi j, nice 2 talk 2 u all d way from wat used to b d emerald isle but is now only an auld cheap boroken piece of glass, we were a jewel of a country but unfortunatly, d good days have chosen another place to expend their riches, although all along r riches were all credit which doesen't really count, not real money! enough bout d bad government and cronisim in r brutal apparent democracy.
my point is posting u is, as reading sum of yr posts, alas, my attention span doesn't always allow me to concentrate on ye almost novel size posts, but wat i always wonder is how long it takes u to type them? i assume from reading sum of sum of yr posts!!!, that u have a job, i do find them interesting as i've been to d US quite a few times but i wonder by yr posts r u able to type a 1000 words a min????!!!!! i realise it mite b a dumb question but, boy u can tell a sceal ( irish word for story)!! how fast can u type cos i'm sure u don't spend hours wit your sceals!( stories)!!!

i'm so not critising, cos i like yr auld posts now and again even i only get thro at least half!!!
by d way i love america and wud move in d morning if it was possible. maybe not to california - not that i''m saying all peoplr from california r like poeple from LA!!! my post really doesn't have much point to it but it was just a query i had in my head and d vodka forced me to write this :):):);)

i take no responsibility for my actions wen alcohol takes control of my body, brain and my fecking sense :):):)

take care;)
 
hi j, nice 2 talk 2 u all d way from wat used to b d emerald isle but is now only an auld cheap boroken piece of glass, we were a jewel of a country but unfortunatly, d good days have chosen another place to expend their riches, although all along r riches were all credit which doesen't really count, not real money! enough bout d bad government and cronisim in r brutal apparent democracy.
my point is posting u is, as reading sum of yr posts, alas, my attention span doesn't always allow me to concentrate on ye almost novel size posts, but wat i always wonder is how long it takes u to type them? i assume from reading sum of sum of yr posts!!!, that u have a job, i do find them interesting as i've been to d US quite a few times but i wonder by yr posts r u able to type a 1000 words a min????!!!!! i realise it mite b a dumb question but, boy u can tell a sceal ( irish word for story)!! how fast can u type cos i'm sure u don't spend hours wit your sceals!( stories)!!!

i'm so not critising, cos i like yr auld posts now and again even i only get thro at least half!!!
by d way i love america and wud move in d morning if it was possible. maybe not to california - not that i''m saying all peoplr from california r like poeple from LA!!! my post really doesn't have much point to it but it was just a query i had in my head and d vodka forced me to write this :):):);)

i take no responsibility for my actions wen alcohol takes control of my body, brain and my fecking sense :):):)

take care;)

we have a family cottage in Ireland that we cannot sell because of a family dispute over the bequeath
i regard it as my bolthole should i ever be faced with lock up
selling the property would be good-it's a small cottage but would fetch a good price-trouble is it is so expensive to live there and equally hard to work there;especially if you are English
I don't think i could move to the states-my 10 yrs are just about up so my conviction is spent but there are so any other places that i would rather be-also fro what i have seen the Americans are so friendly and loud-i have issues with loud and friendly.I would also never get health insurance with my history and the amount of tie i spend in treatment for one thing or another,it would financially cripple me
 
I don't think i could move to the states-my 10 yrs are just about up so my conviction is spent

Hey kkat hows it goin? What did u mean by this? I aint too up on the british criminal justice system, but are u saying that ten years after a cconviction, it disappears off ur record? Cos I thought once u had something on ur record it was for life? I got criminal damage, several cautions for class A's / B's, a conviction for cannabis posession and a conviction for H posession....As I understood even a conviction for cannabis means I could never go to the states. If u are saying woti think it would make my day. Always painfully regret getting done for H - it was EMPTY fuckin wraps they found in my car. Twatt that I was I refused a solicitor at the station and admitted posession cos I was starting to cluck and was worried they were gonna hold me overnight and needed to score, but they tested they empty (paper) wrap which came up positive for H. They couldnt caution cos I already had cannabis. Fuck depresses me even thinkin about it. However, strangely when I started a new job a while back I ticked the 'no convictions' box, then found out afterwards that they do a CB check (if thats what its called) and itcame back clear! Fuck knows how
 
Certainly been an interesting couple of days, went to few friends house Thursday so took a sub and some extra vallies, ended up staying at a girls house till this aftertoon. Felt a nice rattle coming on Friday night though :(, thank God I took extra vallies and managed to pass it off as feeling sick from the booze the night before. Managed to get a couple hours sleep Friday, allthough wasn't much need for sleeping most of the time, aha.
 
Just wanted to repeat this cos Im an egotistical cunt an I dont think anybody read it!
Just an observation, but gear 'eds, or at least the ones I (semi) know thru these bl forums, are sound as fuck! nice peeps, getting along wiv each other well for the most part, helping each other if sum1 post saying theyre down, helping people by suggesting detox methods / techniques / info / help, helping by providing harm reduction methods, and also, at least I think, people are being really honest here. And well-balanced aswell I reckon. A far far cry from the stereotypical, purse pinching, house robbing, emotionless, lazy, fiending raving loony smack heads that exist in the press or the recess of joe publics head. I mean, is there similar forums for crack heads on BL, where they all chat and get along nicely? I think not (may b wrong?)! not that I got anything against stone heads...after all, how could I, Im a dirty smack head, junkie, the lowest of the low, theres no one else to look down on down ere in the gutter!!
 
Hey kkat hows it goin? What did u mean by this? I aint too up on the british criminal justice system, but are u saying that ten years after a cconviction, it disappears off ur record? Cos I thought once u had something on ur record it was for life? I got criminal damage, several cautions for class A's / B's, a conviction for cannabis posession and a conviction for H posession....As I understood even a conviction for cannabis means I could never go to the states. If u are saying woti think it would make my day. Always painfully regret getting done for H - it was EMPTY fuckin wraps they found in my car. Twatt that I was I refused a solicitor at the station and admitted posession cos I was starting to cluck and was worried they were gonna hold me overnight and needed to score, but they tested they empty (paper) wrap which came up positive for H. They couldnt caution cos I already had cannabis. Fuck depresses me even thinkin about it. However, strangely when I started a new job a while back I ticked the 'no convictions' box, then found out afterwards that they do a CB check (if thats what its called) and itcame back clear! Fuck knows how

yeah
AFAIK after 10 yrs your conviction is spent and it doesn't show up on a check
i dunno if this applies to crimes like rape and murder or paedophilia(being on sex register),but for charges like possession,you should be fine
 
What about cautions ? I got done for affray, I know they are spent as soon as given, but what will it limit me doing ? Only got it a year ago.
 
What about cautions ? I got done for affray, I know they are spent as soon as given, but what will it limit me doing ? Only got it a year ago.

not sure
i am no legal expert
all i know is my charges for possession/possession with intent are quashed in 10yrs,maybe less
 
Yeah fair play mate, just thought i'd ask seen as the topic was up. No worries :).

Freaking nicely opiated now after one point, tempted to even save this other bag till tomorrow, but I doubt I will haha =D.
 
This drought can cause a real roller coaster of emotions!! To~night its really getting to me, i don't know why? Maybe its cause its Saturday night & after been stuck in work all week i would love to be just able to relax & smoke some gear. But no such luck, after working my poxey under~paid job all week i don't want to blow what little cash i have on the low grade crap that they are charging double the price for!!! 4 months of this, its just way to long......

I always thought that if i was ever able to stay away from the gear for a few months then that would be it, i would have beaten it & i would be able to stay clean for good, i thought that i just needed to get out of this rut. I know that i didn't choose to stay off the gear for the last few months, it was the drought that made me stay away, but it worries me that my craving for H is still every bit as strong, or maybe even stronger then before!! When H gets a hold of you it just won't let go!! Will it always be this way..........?

I suppose we all have good & bad days, i guess i'm just having a bad day, just feeling down, but it really does worry me that i still think about the gear all day every day, this drought has thought me that my addiction is much stronger then i had let myself believe, i always thought that if i took some time away from H then i would be cured, Eh? Don't think so.........

Sorry about this moaning down~beat post, i normally keep it to myself when i'm feeling like this, but to~day the blues just came from no where & took me by surprise. It weird sometimes when i'm feeling down i read something or watch something sad & end up making myself feel worse, i have just spent the last hour & a half reading through the saddest thread that i have ever seen. It nearly broke my heart to read through it, & the photos make the people much more real.

I'm going to bring my darling doggie :) for a walk now to try & snap out of this mood. Here is a link to that thread, it would really make you think........

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=352944
 
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