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Heroin Social Chat v4

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I can only imagine the huge amounts of cash spent on:
1. Stopping fights.
2. Arresting people.
3. Picking up practically unconscious people.
4. Damage to public property.
5. Health Care for the unconscious and injured.
6. The bill for Counsel-based clean-ups (broken glass, puke, piss etc. etc.)....

There's probably oh so much more that I've missed out too... It's fuckin depressing :(

Cheers for the heads up Kat hun :) Will give it a watch!
 
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I didn't want to score today. Instead, I just wanted to take this meth I ordered which would see me through until Saturday, but the meth mans phone is off and I can get a bag until Saturday if I hand my phone over as collateral.

Have to wait about 45mins though...benzo script on Friday :)
Appointment with doctor friday week to find out when I can get an appointment with psych...anxiety recently went generalised :\
 
Gah ((((((((((((((( Endless )))))))))))))))
That sucks man :\ A bit of a dilemma yer in there.
When did you last take some Methadone? I guess keep trying yer Meth blokey but...
"If worse comes to worse my monkey comes first.." =D

Just do the best you can mate :) And don't beat yerself up if you have to end up scoring a bag.
 
I appologize for my little rant last night- I was fed up with two days of abuse at work ( I work 12 hour shifts in a hospital) and I was pissed off and had taken more than a few of my customery dose of benzos to chill- so I went off on a rant.

I work in the health care system- although unlike much of Europe, it is privitatized. We are going through a huge finacial crunch over here- the main costs to our government is entitlement programs, medicare (our program is severly short funded here after years of abuse), and social security, the meager amount of money everyone has been paying into and are entitled at retirement but will be bankrupt soon in large part because politicians have been using it for years- borrowing money from it as a sort of slush fund.

But anyway, my point is that if you had medicare/ medical (the states insurance- they would pay for your methadone, otherwise you would pay out of pocket. I had to for six years. When the clinic was county owned- I paid the equivalent of $100.00. They actaully lowered it a year latter to 50.00- in part because I had an awsome counselor. But the rest of the staff would harrass me and were abusive.

Moved to San Diego and started on a private clinic- was paying $300.00 a month but they treated us with custumer service in mind, where as san Joss's county had the monopoly on clinics, San Diego had several clinics, and although the one I went to bought out by a chain, a few independent clinics sprouted up. So we were treated with respect- In the USA, you pick up your dose and takehomes on clinic property not at the chemist. That clinic had loose rules, the staff was nice, they worked on getting your takehomes and getting you in and out of the clinic fast so you could go about your business and be productive. Their hours were open between 0530- 1900. I ended up relapsing after 2 years ( when my dose was down to 4 mg- long story, was wifes birthday, were going to Vegas and wanted a little opiated soiree for our trip there, went to mexico - to a pharmacy I used to get pills without Rx and asked for oxy which I never had tried. the guy asked for $40.00. I thought he was talking about a strip or box of 20- but he was talking each. I almost fell over. Said no gracias, and called a friend from the clinic. Unfortunately this led to a 2 year run chipping on top of the methadone and escalation of my dose to 40 mg. But the dope we smoked at my firnds house has so strong, my wife and I smoked a little piece that it practically knocked my dick in the dirt. Could barely drive home I was nodding so hard.

But was sick on day 3 on way back home from vegas- what was supposed to be temporary turned into a 2 year run were my wife and I spent $100.00/ day on dope , were always broke, this was on top pf the clinic.

I say this because I read about the poor gentleman that was 60 on another thread that was doing good on his hard won diamorph Rx, and the public health services were going to stop paying for it. As zara pointed out, a petition should be circulated, but my point is that instituting a wide spread diamorph treatment program might be cheaper, improve social fuctioning, overall health, just if the health services would let it be privitized. It would probably be better than bashed heroin and cheaper too if you had to pay out of pocket.

So private docs write for Rx diamorph maintenance which you pay out of pocket for- cheaper overall and you know what your getting- decreased blood born infection, harm reduction, ect...thats what 300,000 addicts should consider pushing for, atleast those that care.

@ endless who runs the streets in the UK- from this board it would seem it is the pakis? What about the old football firms/hooligans- I know they got into the E trade in the 90s, are they involved in the retail level? Are things similar in throughout the UK or in Eire.

In this country, by contrast, the paki community is disproporitionately represented in the proffessional community or are small bussinness owners. The mexicans are the ones that run the streets.
 
@endless, I had to get above 100 mg before I got a proper blocking effect on methadone. Luck with your plan and the benzo script, that helps with the cravings too.

@KKat- a bunch of nodding junkies are a much smaller pulic safety hazard than drunks and people weekend partiers- the cost to the tax payers is probaly way higher- plus the nuissance to the cops and non drunk public.
 
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monstanoodle said:
I can only imagine the huge amounts of cash spent on:
1. Stopping fights.
2. Arresting people.
3. Picking up practically unconscious people.
4. Damage to public property.
5. Health Care for the unconscious and injured.
6. The bill for Counsel-based clean-ups (broken glass, puke, piss etc. etc.)....

There's probably oh so much more that I've missed out too... It's fuckin depressing :(

Cheers for the heads up Kat hun :) Will give it a watch!
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hello monsta!!! shows how much my pahrmacist knows, he said to me the nigth they both kill ya in the end, h thru disease etc, he then asked me how i got into it, hes been dyin to ask me that for years, and me drugs worker has never seen me in such turmoil. mad, i got something i have to do, jjust spent too long being scared. maybe i need a priest to exorcise me demons
 
PapaverSom said:
TO OUR YANKY AMERICAN FRIENDS, jstrung and the other dude who posted recently: pay no attention to the arrogant comments from one or two-I know I aint alone in saying u guys are v welcome here and that I like reading ur posts regardless of length (altho strung u can go on a bit sometimes lol!). Its good to get an insight into what may be going on wiv this drought and I for one didnt know albanians were involved in our supply. So why the fuk is our gear so shite? Why are most of our drugs so fuckin shite? ie Coke, shite/fake/cut to fuck, ecstacy, fuckin shite/fake/diff drug altogether, heroin shite/fake/cut to fuck...wheres the fuckin China White or heroin base? As such large consumers of H there would be a massive market for good products

Scouse66- thanks for ur reply to my comment on the other forum re lying to prescribers, much appreciated an u didnt bore me

DROUGHT update- from Bristol, same stuff for a few weeks. At first I thought it was great, its lumpy/rocky, quite hard, good light brown/tan colour, really smells of gear, runs a treat etc and is a defo a million times better than the bash. I know its proper gear cos stopped takin the juice for a couple days and it held me well, but I aint totally convinced by it. Its very light on the foil when melted and doesnt taste of that much, and darkens as it goes on. You dont get that much smoke off it either. Its just a little unsatisfying. Dont get me wrong, Im sure loads of people would be over the moon to have this instead of the bash thats been doin the rounds, I certainly was/am. Think its proper afghan brown, but just not very strong. Or maybe it has been cut and repressed, who knows. Def aint clever bash tho, has anyone else been scoring this stufF? Peace
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1st off - Quite right :) Our peeps over-the-pond are more than welcome... And I don't have a clue why they shouldn't be :? All weirdness to me that idea!

2nd - It sounds like I'm getting similar stuff to you atm actually, but maybe it's a bit more cut in big cities due to a higher demand? As I can get a nice nod and there's a decent amount of smoke. It's just the amount that's the problem but I can cope easily with that for the price of having some good stuff around :)
So yea I think it's definitely the same batch but just a different % of cut maybe?

pinkpapaver said:
just skint, widsh i could smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke, but its too expensive, and i m a daft bint, so there ya have it
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That doesn't make you a daft bint! Thinking that you are a daft bint makes you a daft bint :P :)~♥
Honestly? It's fuckin ace that yer not smokin at the moment ;) So thumbs up!
 
@ Blondin

Thanks for replying to my comment the other day re lying to treatment agencies re use on top of green. However, you saying that I am wasting my money by using on top of 80ml is wwrong. Whilst it is true methadone lowers the effects u get off gear, I aint a mug and wouldnt be spending good money, that I aint really got, on gear if it did nothing! I know H, I been hooked on it for 7 years, and I know how it makes me feel. Now using H on top of subutex, that would be wasting money. And from experience I know that Subbies really block. However, when I use on top me green I still get a nod (off decent food) and it still makes me feel really good. Oh and this is smoking btw. And when I been using for a while then stop, as I do every so often (usually 3 weeks on one off, prior to apt at clinic and piss test), I get a bit of a rattle and need to up me meth for a few days. Anyway Blondin Ive prob bored u half to death, it just annoyed me a bit that u made the assumption that I dont get an affect off of H, everyones different, and also, while I think ur cool and like ur comments, you do sometimes make quite big generalisations and assumptions bout other people, which sounds a little arrogant sometimes. But I aint being funny-coming on here to argue is fuckin wank, jus givin my opinion. Peace
 
if i was to ask a question that i half already knew d answer to, r maybe alreday kow d real answer to is der even a point in asking d question in d first place?? d question r delimah(prob spelt wrong) ..... does one spend d rest of their life in a shit hole r attempt to grab the motivation which i know still resides somwhere deep in my sole and d absolute drive that used to protude so visible from me r leave ireland like so many of r talented nationals r flooding r shores every day, ( not that i'm considering myself among those skilled youths!) but fuck heroin r no herion, i derseve a fucking decent life, as does my child. as much as heroin has teased me into an almost subuniverse existance, i really shud have d God damn balls to ultimalty say no. with no prospects, no money and absoloutly no hope in ireland maybe both myself and this shit hole of a country need a break from each other. maybe i need a break from myself... i reckon that would do me d world of good. enough of my rant,,,i prob just need a good smoke and a fucking sleep...... sorry bout d rant : )
 
oh, i did have a bag earlier, couldnt help me self, borrowed some money and got one to settle the racy head, but its still racy.... thanks anyway, for the gee up, ill be a racy lady shall I ? ;)
 
alfo said:
if i was to ask a question that i half already knew d answer to, r maybe alreday kow d real answer to is der even a point in asking d question in d first place?? d question r delimah(prob spelt wrong) ..... does one spend d rest of their life in a shit hole r attempt to grab the motivation which i know still resides somwhere deep in my sole and d absolute drive that used to protude so visible from me r leave ireland like so many of r talented nationals r flooding r shores every day, ( not that i'm considering myself among those skilled youths!) but fuck heroin r no herion, i derseve a fucking decent life, as does my child. as much as heroin has teased me into an almost subuniverse existance, i really shud have d God damn balls to ultimalty say no. with no prospects, no money and absoloutly no hope in ireland maybe both myself and this shit hole of a country need a break from each other. maybe i need a break from myself... i reckon that would do me d world of good. enough of my rant,,,i prob just need a good smoke and a fucking sleep...... sorry bout d rant : )
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god bless ya alfo. i feel exactly the same as you mate, ireally do, but i wanna go the other way, cross the irish sea your way, but yeah i know exactly where your comin from angel
 
Rant away Alfo! :) All's good.

You will get that motivation back, but it will take time for your µ-receptors to upregulate again and for you to begin producing Endorphins naturally in appropriate amounts.
When you've used gear (or any Opiate) for a long time, your µ-receptors are so saturated with Enorphins that they become Downregulated so they will take time to return to "normal".
But when they do, all the things that you are lacking at the moment, mentally and physically due to this, will return :)

And maybe escaping Ireland would be good for you, but maybe it's just about escaping the current close environment and people that you're around now that make not using harder.
But if Ireland's got nothing for you, then a move might be in order :)
I wouldn't come to the UK though - It's equally as shit lol..
 
pinkpapaver said:
god bless ya alfo. i feel exactly the same as you mate, ireally do, but i wanna go the other way, cross the irish sea your way, but yeah i know exactly where your comin from angel
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life really does fuck u over u sometimes... seems like has made me a whore....but only ltierally not physcially!! off to bed now to contemplate d shitness of being born, as i've done a million times before. sure if life throws shit at u, all u can do is wipe yourself : ) take care..
 
pinkpapaver said:
oh, i did have a bag earlier, couldnt help me self, borrowed some money and got one to settle the racy head, but its still racy.... thanks anyway, for the gee up, ill be a racy lady shall I ? ;)
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Again, it's all good :) So what if you had some? The racey-head is fuckin horrible.. I know it all too well :\ And totally understand the need to stop it.
Just do as good as you can chuck :)
And you're quite welcome! ^_^

(Maybe all this should go to the social thread... hmm... Ah well...)

Alfo - I hope you get some good rest hun :)
 
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alfo said:
if i was to ask a question that i half already knew d answer to, r maybe alreday kow d real answer to is der even a point in asking d question in d first place?? d question r delimah(prob spelt wrong) ..... does one spend d rest of their life in a shit hole r attempt to grab the motivation which i know still resides somwhere deep in my sole and d absolute drive that used to protude so visible from me r leave ireland like so many of r talented nationals r flooding r shores every day, ( not that i'm considering myself among those skilled youths!) but fuck heroin r no herion, i derseve a fucking decent life, as does my child. as much as heroin has teased me into an almost subuniverse existance, i really shud have d God damn balls to ultimalty say no. with no prospects, no money and absoloutly no hope in ireland maybe both myself and this shit hole of a country need a break from each other. maybe i need a break from myself... i reckon that would do me d world of good. enough of my rant,,,i prob just need a good smoke and a fucking sleep...... sorry bout d rant : )
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DO SOMETHING!! If u got the motivation to take a chance and move away, do it. Waaaay too many people (myself included) can be fucked off wiv something in particualr, or just everything, but instead of doing something positive to try to change it, just get depressed/angry and spend ages wishing it would get better. U really can do stuff to change ur life, it may not work tho
 
hay alfo, shall we swap places? you come here and ill go there? aw man, i really fell for ya babe, i really do, i aint down down at the mo, im just all confused and got something i wanna do but just waitin for the go ahead, i just got something to do, i just have to do it.....
 
sorrry bout d spelling guys....had a little 2 much 2 drink tonight so i'm as u wud expect pissed off wit d world... b good : )
 
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